1. andrewg182's Avatar
    I have a curve, and i got the 29.99 plan. OK? So i heard the biggest difference between this and the 44.99 plan is the use of tethering and wireless sync. I have no idea what either of those are, can someone help me know if 29.99 is ok for me? please and thank you in advance!
    06-13-09 12:14 PM
  2. itsthemusic's Avatar
    Cant hook up to a BES with the 29.99. Tethering is an additional on either plan. Its either 15 with the 44.99 or 30 with the 29.99.
    06-13-09 12:16 PM
  3. andrewg182's Avatar
    What's a BES? And i'm getting my emails sent to my phone, does that mean im using the sync thing? Sorry, i don't get this whole thing yet.
    06-13-09 12:20 PM
  4. lastraid's Avatar
    Both plan will enable to get email as well. 30 plan is for BIS or personal email. 45 plan is more for BES or large corporate environment.

    Also you get the unlim data for the internal browser ands any other applications that use internal data like blackberry messanger.

    The only way to sync other data like calendar or contacts is to use calbe woth the desktop manager or use yahoo or google sync.
    06-13-09 12:22 PM
  5. andrewg182's Avatar
    So, if I'm using messenger, doing minimal internet surfing and getting emails I should be ok and not get any extra charges?
    06-13-09 12:25 PM
  6. lastraid's Avatar
    Yep - this is correct. and you can browse all you like no need to worry. If you pay for the tethering feature (30) per month then you have 5GB soft cap w/ .05 per MB over while tethering.
    06-13-09 12:27 PM
  7. andrewg182's Avatar
    I don't even know what tethering is lol. But thank you for your help, sorry for the dumb questions I'm sure you answer every day!
    06-13-09 12:29 PM
  8. lastraid's Avatar
    NO problem. tethering is the ability to use your device as modem and attach for use of data with a laptop
    06-13-09 12:30 PM
  9. Alexander323bc's Avatar
    The 29.99 plan gets you a 52,000 dollar cell phone bill if the verizon reps do not carry the plan over when you do an ESN swap or in other words if you have to change phones. I just went through the all the plan details with Verizon executives so I am pretty well versed on what the plans cover and what they do not. LastRaid is correct when you states that if you have tethering on your plan that actually falls under the broadband connect plan and you are under the 5gb limit rule. If you just have the 29.99 or 45.99 plan you are under the blackberry data plan and that is unlimited. It does not have the 5gb rule some will try to argue this but this is how it was explained to my during a conversation with the vice president of internal affairs at Verizon. This is why my bill was credited back I used more than 5 gigs of data but because I was supposed to be under the 29.99 unlimited plan it was credited back. So your going to be just fine with the 29.99 plan just make sure you if you do an esn swap they carry the correct data plan over!
    06-13-09 12:41 PM
  10. Alexander323bc's Avatar
    Sorry about the typing errors I sent it from my storm. I hope it makes sense
    06-13-09 12:43 PM
  11. gotblackberry's Avatar
    06-13-09 02:00 PM
  12. faf224's Avatar
    I find that Verizon's practice of the BB data pack not including unlimited text to be a huge rip off. Also the navigation is $9.99 extra on top of that.

    We have 4 phones, 2 of BB's and pay $60 extra to have them, yet pay $30 more for unlimited text. No way they'll change it, though with Sprint all that stuff comes with the $30 plan.
    06-13-09 02:24 PM
  13. gotblackberry's Avatar
    Sprint and Verizon, not comparable. We've been over this 100x.
    06-13-09 02:30 PM
  14. noaim's Avatar
    The 29.99 plan gets you a 52,000 dollar cell phone bill if the verizon reps do not carry the plan over when you do an ESN swap or in other words if you have to change phones. I just went through the all the plan details with Verizon executives so I am pretty well versed on what the plans cover and what they do not. LastRaid is correct when you states that if you have tethering on your plan that actually falls under the broadband connect plan and you are under the 5gb limit rule. If you just have the 29.99 or 45.99 plan you are under the blackberry data plan and that is unlimited. It does not have the 5gb rule some will try to argue this but this is how it was explained to my during a conversation with the vice president of internal affairs at Verizon. This is why my bill was credited back I used more than 5 gigs of data but because I was supposed to be under the 29.99 unlimited plan it was credited back. So your going to be just fine with the 29.99 plan just make sure you if you do an esn swap they carry the correct data plan over!

    no offense but telling people this may confuse them more then anything..

    just stick with you need a data plan you get unlimited data on your berry with 29.99

    44.99 gives you the same thing as the 29.99 accept your able to connect it to a corporate BES server

    tethering is more money on either plan and allows you to use a modem..



    you shouldn't answer a question that someone has by using a a rep/ carrier error to answer it
    06-13-09 02:45 PM
  15. IDsweetcheeks's Avatar
    I find that Verizon's practice of the BB data pack not including unlimited text to be a huge rip off. Also the navigation is $9.99 extra on top of that.

    We have 4 phones, 2 of BB's and pay $60 extra to have them, yet pay $30 more for unlimited text. No way they'll change it, though with Sprint all that stuff comes with the $30 plan.
    I'm sorry but... blah blah blah blah.

    nothing is free... Vzw vs Sprint... no contest
    You pay for quality
    06-13-09 03:59 PM
  16. TwinsX2Dad's Avatar
    Do a search for worst cell carrier & look at what you find - overwhelmingly, the worst is Sprint. Many sites & blogs show Sprint as the unanimous worst selection.

    And, LR - you don't need a cable. I drop mine in my BlackBerry PowerStation cradle & do it via bluetooth. Or I just set it on my desk & do it via bluetooth.

    You only need to modify a Windows bluetooth inf file for DM to recognize it. It isn't the simplest thing, but all you need is notepad, some information on your bluetooth device information and some intelligence. I won't recap it here, as the information on how to do it is readily avalpilable online.

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    06-13-09 05:21 PM
  17. bbsince2003's Avatar
    ive been with all the companys at one point and time . i can say that verizon offers great service. well worth the money
    06-13-09 06:16 PM
  18. lastraid's Avatar
    And, LR - you don't need a cable. I drop mine in my BlackBerry PowerStation cradle & do it via bluetooth. Or I just set it on my desk & do it via bluetooth.

    You only need to modify a Windows bluetooth inf file for DM to recognize it. It isn't the simplest thing, but all you need is notepad, some information on your bluetooth device information and some intelligence. I won't recap it here, as the information on how to do it is readily avalpilable online.

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    Usually when I say something it is one the I do it, and they way I do it is usually the way we support it work. For this is the way I have to know how to do it for my job. I do not think I said there was not other way.

    But then again in the power station you will not see the battery draining fast, but you might notice the slower speed of the xfer of data.
    06-13-09 07:06 PM
  19. TwinsX2Dad's Avatar
    It is a little slower, but the convenience of syncing without thinking about it is worth it.

    By the way - if you don't have any bluetooth drivers installed & use a USB Microsoft BT like the ones that come with their input devices, there is minimal setup - DM won't support media card file transfer either way, but it works easily & cleanly.

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    06-14-09 05:02 AM
  20. Alexander323bc's Avatar
    Tell me where there is 5gig limit anywhere in there and then look at the date. Then after you look at the date go and update your thread mobile broadband connect has the 5gig limit


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    06-15-09 09:24 PM
  21. zing512's Avatar
    I go through verizon and unlimited text is covered under my 29.99 plan.

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    06-15-09 09:55 PM
  22. lastraid's Avatar
    I go through verizon and unlimited text is covered under my 29.99 plan.

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    um, not really. SMS may be comvered you price, but not your data plan. Text do not use data.
    06-15-09 10:02 PM
  23. cadsystems's Avatar
    I'm sorry but... blah blah blah blah.

    nothing is free... Vzw vs Sprint... no contest
    You pay for quality
    I would have to say you pay for quantity not quality, vzw just happens to suck less than sprint.
    06-15-09 11:24 PM
  24. faf224's Avatar
    Sprint will also let you use a Blackberry without a data plan. Bla bla bla.
    06-16-09 02:52 AM
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