10-15-08 01:25 PM
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  1. skelton's Avatar
    In a recent call to Verizon to have the GPS enabled Verizon continued to stand to refuse to enable the GPS. Even when the caller explained that they were a Delaware registered Sex Offender and wanted the GPS enabled for personal tracking purposes and support of law enforcement concerns. The Verizon rep refused to pass the issue to his manager and only stated that the person should return the 8830 for a refund and cancellation of services.

    Perhaps it is time for a Verizon boycott, when they have gone as so far as to ignore such an opportunity. While the individual in question is considered "no risk", the fact that they would refuse is beyond acceptable.

    Hopefully Verizon is reading this.....somehow I don't think so...
    09-17-08 09:36 AM
  2. jakeh0's Avatar
    I'd prefer not to start down this road of tracking perceived threats. What's next? DUI convicts set off an alarm when they enter a bar parking lot?
    09-17-08 12:06 PM
  3. fonebrkr's Avatar
    In a recent call to Verizon to have the GPS enabled Verizon continued to stand to refuse to enable the GPS. Even when the caller explained that they were a Delaware registered Sex Offender and wanted the GPS enabled for personal tracking purposes and support of law enforcement concerns. The Verizon rep refused to pass the issue to his manager and only stated that the person should return the 8830 for a refund and cancellation of services.

    Perhaps it is time for a Verizon boycott, when they have gone as so far as to ignore such an opportunity. While the individual in question is considered "no risk", the fact that they would refuse is beyond acceptable.

    Hopefully Verizon is reading this.....somehow I don't think so...
    So, what a sex offender should get a freebie that everyone else pays 10 bucks a month for? and vzw should ALSO take the liability of tracking sex offenders? maybe i'm not seeing it..
    09-17-08 12:15 PM
  4. mchugh89's Avatar
    I agree. It's not Verizon's responsibility. Is this guy going to sue vzw for his own perverted problem? Probably. Take responsibility for your own actions!!!

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    09-17-08 12:15 PM
  5. vatothe0's Avatar
    If law enforcement needs to track someone, their cell phone would be just about the dumbest way to do it.
    If law enforcement needs the cell phone to be tracked, they have their own process to make the request. They would never tell the person in question to set it up on their own.

    This story reeks of lies.

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    09-17-08 12:17 PM
  6. Hotel's Avatar
    Something don't sound right. Wouldn't they get an ankle bracelet or something?

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    09-17-08 01:12 PM
  7. vatothe0's Avatar
    Next thing you know it'll be "I need free unlimited messaging because they want me to send them a picture of where i'm at every hour".

    If law enforcement has a need, they'll also have a solution. That's their job.

    I applaud the rep that handled this "call".

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    09-17-08 01:22 PM
  8. skelton's Avatar
    Well I guess this is the wrong place to address such things. Despite the long dispute with VZW over the GPS, I personally thought it odd that they would not make any considerations. But I guess Verizon customers have long grown accustom to getting screwed over on the GPS.

    Granted, if everyone else is forced to drop trow for $10 a month to have some resemblance of a normal GPS function, the the offender should pay his share.

    I'll abstain from rehashing bits on the whole GPS thing. Being a new BB user has me seeing things differently. I'll just cast my vote to freeing the GPS for everyone, and leave this forum for those who would prostrate themselves to the great and almighty Verizon.
    Last edited by skelton; 09-17-08 at 01:34 PM.
    09-17-08 01:24 PM
  9. skelton's Avatar
    Something don't sound right. Wouldn't they get an ankle bracelet or something?
    Only level 3 offenders. This guy is level 1 and wanted to voluntarily be visible/trackable on the net. Go figure.
    09-17-08 01:26 PM
  10. skelton's Avatar
    This story reeks of lies.
    No lies. I deal with a lot of offenders as part of my prison ministry. There are some that feel that to make some form of amends they would voluntarily provide GPS information via cell phone tracking, or otherwise. As many vendors offer tracking of kids via phones, this would also be an easy way for someone to be tracked. Business do it all the time for their trucks, field personnel, and others.

    As posted before, the consensus is for the offender to pay like everyone else. In this I agree, if that is what it takes.
    09-17-08 01:33 PM
  11. fonebrkr's Avatar
    No lies. I deal with a lot of offenders as part of my prison ministry. There are some that feel that to make some form of amends they would voluntarily provide GPS information via cell phone tracking, or otherwise. As many vendors offer tracking of kids via phones, this would also be an easy way for someone to be tracked. Business do it all the time for their trucks, field personnel, and others.

    As posted before, the consensus is for the offender to pay like everyone else. In this I agree, if that is what it takes.
    Well I gotta say, for a first post on a BB forum, you did go big.
    GPS on vzw has been talked about forever, do a search, most folk that have vzw are aware of our options and still pay for the quality of service, if freebies and price was the only consideration, sprint and TMO wouldn't be bleeding customers.. Maybe your sex offender should look to one of them for free gps..

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    09-17-08 02:38 PM
  12. Spyderz's Avatar
    Really? You're mad a criminal isn't getting something for free? Of course, cuz that makes perfect sense...I'm glad my taxes would be put to good use cuz some guy wants to get GPS for free while the rest of us pay for it. While we're at it we should give him a free lifetime pass to a strip club? What else would this almighty sex offender require? Because in this way of thinking, I believe the 'almighty Verizon' is completely in the right.

    The police have several ways of tracking ppl. If they suggest using the GPS and he can't come up with $10 extra a month...maybe the police..or even you could help him out with that?

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    09-17-08 05:04 PM
  13. Rjsumthin's Avatar
    Only level 3 offenders. This guy is level 1 and wanted to voluntarily be visible/trackable on the net. Go figure.
    If this offender was trying to work with law enforcement then he needs to learn of technology and so do you, not meaning that to come out as rude as it sounds but you are jumping to major major points here and honestly it's not needed.

    IF law enforcement needed to track this gentleman through GPS, there is this thing that is required by law... every phone must be e-911 compliant. Meaning every phone is trackable by law enforcement. If it was a necessity, law enforcement should know this and should have advised this gentleman of what and why the GPS was originally implanted into the device for.

    There is no reason to "free his GPS" to make sure he is trackable by law, because everyone already is if it's needed, and there is NO way to turn that off.... short of your phone always being powered off **maybe?** or finding a way to remove the GPS chip.
    09-18-08 10:58 AM
  14. CrazyMan5150's Avatar
    Actually the GPS on the phone is FREE all you have to do is turn it on - i thinkwhat your talking about is a feature called Chaperone and can be found here Data Services: Chaperone - Verizon Wireless Support

    this feature cost a monthley fee to use .

    but as far as being located by GPS Every phone now has to have it so BigBrother can track you. after all when some one calls 911 from there cell phone how are they tracked ?

    BY GPS !!
    09-18-08 12:40 PM
  15. ok4a56's Avatar
    IF law enforcement needed to track this gentleman through GPS, there is this thing that is required by law... every phone must be e-911 compliant. Meaning every phone is trackable by law enforcement. If it was a necessity, law enforcement should know this and should have advised this gentleman of what and why the GPS was originally implanted into the device for.
    after all when some one calls 911 from there cell phone how are they tracked ?

    BY GPS !!
    For a 9-1-1 center to track your phone by GPS, you first have to dial 9-1-1 from your cell phone, and then go into a center that is what they call Phase II Compatible. In the US, only 67% of Public Safety Answering Points can track cell phones. That number may be up now, it has been a while from when I last looked.

    Anyway for law enforcement to GPS any one's cell phone, they will need a Subpoena to do that.

    As for the OP, I agree that they should not give this guy free VZNav. It is not Verizon's responsibility to track these creeps. As as a father of 3, my feeling is take him out back and shoot him. Save us all money, and we would not have this thread.
    09-18-08 01:32 PM
  16. Rjsumthin's Avatar
    Sounds like whatever he did was pretty minor say maybe shooting is a lil over doing it!

    But I don't claim to be a specialist, I think my point is if this guy was asked to cooperate by law then there can be a subpoena to get it done. If he was this big of a threat they can find a way to track him other than verizon keeping GPS unlocked for him is my point.
    09-18-08 03:27 PM
  17. gabbott's Avatar
    I don't see how it is Verizon's responsibility to offer gps tracking for this situation. I'm failing to see the OP's issue with this.
    09-18-08 03:39 PM
  18. dredayholiday's Avatar
    In a recent call to Verizon to have the GPS enabled Verizon continued to stand to refuse to enable the GPS. Even when the caller explained that they were a Delaware registered Sex Offender and wanted the GPS enabled for personal tracking purposes and support of law enforcement concerns. The Verizon rep refused to pass the issue to his manager and only stated that the person should return the 8830 for a refund and cancellation of services.

    Perhaps it is time for a Verizon boycott, when they have gone as so far as to ignore such an opportunity. While the individual in question is considered "no risk", the fact that they would refuse is beyond acceptable.

    Hopefully Verizon is reading this.....somehow I don't think so...



    I personally think its Verizon's right to block GPS if they want. You have a 30 day evaluation period when you get the service. When you realize there is no GPS outside of the Navigator...take the phone back and go else where. If this sex offender wants GPS so bad...then why on earth did he come to Verizon? If they won't unlock GPS on his phone, he needs to go somewhere else. I would like to see him in court saying he couldn't be tracked because Verizon wouldn't unlock his GPS on his phone...just listen to how that sounds...Everyone pretty much knows that Verizon will not unlock the GPS feature for use outside of the Navigator; and if you don't realize it is locked within 30 days...then you really don't need GPS then.
    10-12-08 01:05 PM
  19. Evermore707's Avatar
    I belive cell phone companys and state or federal law enforcement should be kept seperate. There are many other forms of technolgy availble for these purposes

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    10-12-08 01:09 PM
  20. mikells43's Avatar
    im a recovering drug addict, i need my gps enabled to alarm me when im approaching housing project or high drug slinging areas. the getto is a trigger to me. maybe that will work. who knows. lol. sorry just my distorted point of view. anyhow this is a worn out topic lol. they arn't gonna unlock. i have a number to vzw exc cust relations and she said theres good reasons they block it. mostly security reasons.
    Last edited by mikells43; 10-14-08 at 01:18 AM.
    10-14-08 01:03 AM
  21. mgm1979's Avatar
    im a recovering drug addict, i need my gps enabled to alarm me when im approaching housing project or high drug slinging areas. the getto is a trigger to me. maybe that will work. who knows. lol. sorry just my distorted point of view. anyhow this is a worn out topic lol. they arn't gonna unlock. i have a number to vzw exc cust relations and she said theres good reasons they block it. mostly security reasons.
    ROFL

    If they were "GOOD" reasons, then ALL carriers would lock the phone's GPS...you can't believe everything a customer service rep tells you, even if they ARE above tier 1.

    Bottom line: they want your $10/mo - period. If the quality of service is good enough to justify it, then sobeit, but don't let them "lemming" you into thinking they're locking something for "security" reasons, or "your own good" - that's BS.
    10-14-08 04:21 PM
  22. John Yester's Avatar
    im a recovering drug addict, i need my gps enabled to alarm me when im approaching housing project or high drug slinging areas. the getto is a trigger to me. maybe that will work. who knows. lol. sorry just my distorted point of view. anyhow this is a worn out topic lol. they arn't gonna unlock. i have a number to vzw exc cust relations and she said theres good reasons they block it. mostly security reasons.
    Funny how some say this topic has been beat to death, but what if some day(yes some day) Verizon were to unlock GPS for other app's, etc. Man oh man talk about tons of threads, and throwing the Crackberry server into overload......

    Yeah some of the threads about GPS can be, the same old same old, but really think it it was unlocked. we would have the same old same old questions on how to work the GPS since it is unlocked.....




    Just some food for thought.
    10-14-08 06:05 PM
  23. teal's Avatar
    I am over 60 and need GPS so that the undertaker can find me when the time comes. :>)

    Think that will work?
    10-14-08 06:20 PM
  24. kylewell's Avatar
    If he needs to be monitored 24/7 maybe he shouldn't be out??
    Just a thought...law enforcement has there ways

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    10-14-08 08:41 PM
  25. Mamaluka's Avatar
    As a father of three also, before I take this guy out back and "shoot em" I'd like to know if the poor SOB in question was 18 and dated a 15 year old or is 50 and fondled a child.
    But the real story here is - F him and his request for free GPS, pay for it if you want to make ammends.

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    10-14-08 09:18 PM
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