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  1. oblivious420's Avatar
    Apparently Verizon Wireless has taken it upon themselves to block all Blackberry GPS use. The ONLY way to get any form of GPS on your phone is by downloading Verizon"s horrible VZ Navigator, by far one of the worst apps I've ever used. This means no GPS in Google Maps, Flickr, Foursquare, etc etc. At first i thought the problem was with my middle-aged curve 8330, but no. Wouldn't mind if VZ Navigator was in any way workable, but it is literally the worst app I've downloaded onto my phone yet by FAR. This discovery follows on the heels (for me at least) of the sad realization that Verizon is ALSO now beginning to add a REQUIRED $10 a month data charge to all non-smartphones with any kind of web browser built in to them (pretty much all phones put out recently). And yes, this $10 data plan has a monthly cap of only 25 MB!!! any data usage after that is something like 25 cents PER MB!!! I think a class-action lawsuit is in order here. I'm not even kidding. When I pay nearly $400 for a smartphone I expect to be able to use ALL features it includes. Anyone out there with any advice for me to help get this legal ball rolling PLEASE contact me at oblivious420@gmail.com. Thank you!
    04-19-10 11:56 PM
  2. JustinD2473#IM's Avatar
    It's not on all blackberries. The storm storm2 and tour gps' work 100%.

    It has something to do with them being world phones.
    Last edited by JustinD2473; 04-20-10 at 12:13 AM.
    04-20-10 12:08 AM
  3. Gawain's Avatar
    Apparently Verizon Wireless has taken it upon themselves to block all Blackberry GPS use. The ONLY way to get any form of GPS on your phone is by downloading Verizon"s horrible VZ Navigator, by far one of the worst apps I've ever used. This means no GPS in Google Maps, Flickr, Foursquare, etc etc. At first i thought the problem was with my middle-aged curve 8330, but no. Wouldn't mind if VZ Navigator was in any way workable, but it is literally the worst app I've downloaded onto my phone yet by FAR. This discovery follows on the heels (for me at least) of the sad realization that Verizon is ALSO now beginning to add a REQUIRED $10 a month data charge to all non-smartphones with any kind of web browser built in to them (pretty much all phones put out recently). And yes, this $10 data plan has a monthly cap of only 25 MB!!! any data usage after that is something like 25 cents PER MB!!! I think a class-action lawsuit is in order here. I'm not even kidding. When I pay nearly $400 for a smartphone I expect to be able to use ALL features it includes. Anyone out there with any advice for me to help get this legal ball rolling PLEASE contact me at oblivious420@gmail.com. Thank you!
    For a class action, you have to have a class, and show damage from the fact that you can't use GPS for another app on the phone. I am fairly certain this is not correct, as I can use Blackberry Maps with GPS Navigation. It worked with Ubertwitter, and geo-tagging for photos.

    You are not damaged by not using, or not being able to use services not offered by a carrier. Worst case, you could have a deactivated phone and you could still dial 911 with it. Other than that...there's no case. The all you-can-eat package is with Sprint. My suggestion is that you shop it, and check it out. T-Mobile also has some more inclusive plans. My understanding is that AT&T enables Telenav on their Blackberries, but it still costs an extra $10 per month...so...there it is...
    04-20-10 12:09 AM
  4. abtxpress's Avatar
    All you have to do is download vz nav and it unlocks it. There is a fourm on how to do this but since I have a tour mine works great!

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    04-20-10 04:05 AM
  5. Chrisy's Avatar
    Storm 1 GPS is not locked also. Only on older VZW BlackBerry phones is the GPS locked. There's already a huge thread about a class action suit. i recommend you upgrade your BlackBerry if you want unlocked GPS. OR you can buy an external GPS puck and you'll be able to use apps that utilize GPS with your 8330.

    Your 8330's GPS will also work with BlackBerry Maps which is free.

    You're going to find that most audible turn by turn GPS apps have either a monthly or yearly fee (Garmin, Telenav) VZ Nav is one of the best GPS apps that offer audible turn by turn.

    Do a search and you'll discover many threads on this topic. http://forums.crackberry.com/f71/ope...ed-gps-136922/
    http://forums.crackberry.com/f61/bes...gps-help-6804/


    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    04-20-10 05:33 AM
  6. jeffh's Avatar
    Here's a link to the thread Chrisy520 referred to: http://forums.crackberry.com/f41/gps...0-update-1279/.

    As Chrisy and others noted, it's only 8830 and 8330 Verizon devices that are affected, and the GPS in those models works with BBMaps, Bing, VZNav, and possibly other apps as well. Google Maps is the notable exception.
    04-20-10 05:38 AM
  7. pshift's Avatar
    As a former 8330 owner, been there, done that.
    04-20-10 08:15 AM
  8. snork's Avatar
    Wow, talk about old news. The required data plan sucks, but it's where things are headed. You can always get a regular cell phone that does messaging and calls without a data plan.

    Get a curve 8530. It's got a fully functioning GPS. You can upgrade for $30.. free with the NE2 discount.

    Give up on the class-action suit man, it's been tried, its not going anywhere. It's not going to be worth your time and even if it does succeed years down the line, you'll get like $10 for any and all time you put into it.
    04-20-10 10:39 AM
  9. Feeeeg's Avatar
    Gps works on my wifes 8530,

    J/S
    04-20-10 10:59 AM
  10. jeffh's Avatar
    ...Get a curve 8530. It's got a fully functioning GPS. ..
    Gps works on my wife's 8530...
    That's good to know. It was not the case originally. I'll amend my comment above to say 8830 and 8330.
    04-20-10 11:10 AM
  11. keniadeniyi's Avatar
    Is Verizon Wireless disconnecting some phones from their BlackBerry service. I have a BlackBerry tour 9630 with Verizon Wireless as the carrier but the phone was sold to me in Nigeria and I had been using the BlackBerry Service until recently when the edge does not get to EDGE. The Local service provider Zain NG says there is nothing wrong with their service and that the problem may be with the carrier, VERIZON WIRELESS. Any assistance?
    04-20-10 12:55 PM
  12. BlkBryAddict's Avatar
    Like I posted a few wks ago: go to Option - Status - then type in the word test. Check GPS box and run the test. It should work fine after that.

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    04-20-10 01:18 PM
  13. Super_Mario's Avatar
    Oh yay! Another ra-**** that wants to sue! I find it hard to take someone serious when they have "420" in their name...
    04-20-10 01:26 PM
  14. Mister Xiado's Avatar
    I find it hard to take anybody seriously if they have any number in their name, but I digress.

    As far as the data plans go, RIM demands the tribute. You want the net, RIM gets their cut, because they provide the meat of the services at no small cost to themselves.

    Want GPS with no data requirement? RIM sells phones directly, and your carrier can't restrict anything on them... at least not at the device level.

    And $0.25 per megabyte is nice. AT&T charges $10.24 on the old pay-per-use features, and $2 per MB on the new ones... billed in advance starting with the first kilobyte used.
    04-20-10 01:53 PM
  15. fedge's Avatar
    For a class action, you have to have a class, and show damage from the fact that you can't use GPS for another app on the phone. I am fairly certain this is not correct, as I can use Blackberry Maps with GPS Navigation. It worked with Ubertwitter, and geo-tagging for photos.

    You are not damaged by not using, or not being able to use services not offered by a carrier. Worst case, you could have a deactivated phone and you could still dial 911 with it. Other than that...there's no case. The all you-can-eat package is with Sprint. My suggestion is that you shop it, and check it out. T-Mobile also has some more inclusive plans. My understanding is that AT&T enables Telenav on their Blackberries, but it still costs an extra $10 per month...so...there it is...
    You aren't kidding. not to boast Sprint or anything but we got everything at a good price... An I must say the Voice guided Sprint NAV is awesome, it also helps that it's FREE!.
    04-20-10 02:10 PM
  16. TheScionicMan's Avatar
    Like I posted a few wks ago: go to Option - Status - then type in the word test. Check GPS box and run the test. It should work fine after that.

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    Like I posted in your thread a few weeks ago, doesn't do any good on the 8330...
    04-20-10 02:21 PM
  17. mountainman's Avatar
    When I pay nearly $400 for a smartphone I expect to be able to use ALL features it includes. Anyone out there with any advice...
    I have some advice - don't pay 400 bones for a Curve 8330.
    04-20-10 04:10 PM
  18. Omni65's Avatar
    I have some advice - don't pay 400 bones for a Curve 8330.
    Good point. Mine was free.......
    04-20-10 04:15 PM
  19. Chrisy's Avatar
    Are you saying that running the diagnosis test will unlock the GPS on a VZW 8330? So that the GPS can be used with apps like Garmin Mobile, Poynt etc? i have never heard of that.

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    04-20-10 04:34 PM
  20. tsguy52's Avatar
    Oblivious to old news regarding an old phone? Does anyone use their Googler these days?!!?!
    04-20-10 05:57 PM
  21. rayman21186's Avatar
    Yeah, this is definitely old news. My new 8530's GPS works great!

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    04-22-10 12:19 AM
  22. travelingfool's Avatar
    I find it hard to take anybody seriously if they have any number in their name, but I digress.
    I placing my vote for this as the best comeback of the week. Hilarious!

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    04-22-10 12:54 AM
  23. Super_Mario's Avatar
    I placing my vote for this as the best comeback of the week. Hilarious!

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    Oh how the simple minded are easily amused...
    04-22-10 02:42 AM
  24. cdf3's Avatar
    The Curve 8330 has an aGPS chip, instead of a GPS chip like the rest of the newer BlackBerry phones. You can only use GPS with BlackBerry Maps and VZnav. That's it!! No other applications will work. You can use Google Maps, but it uses cell towers for location. So it gives an estimate of your location within a 2 mile radius. If I try to use Google Maps, it's gives my location, but it's no where near my actual location.
    So it's basically useless.
    I'll be upgrading soon, and can't wait.

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    04-23-10 09:14 AM
  25. jeffh's Avatar
    Bing will also work with the aGPS chip. It seems Verizon enables the GPS for any app they push, which makes sense.
    04-23-10 02:02 PM
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