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  1. AllGood's Avatar
    Past few days between 4 and 5 I have been getting a text from the number 86235. All the text says is "wakeup" I've tried to reply to see who this might be but no answer. Has anyone seen this? The 86235 number has me a bit curious.
    10-23-09 06:18 PM
  2. jmiles3bb's Avatar
    it could be automated. i get things like that sometimes and it's very annoying. try replying and only put in the word "unsubscribe". you should get a follow up text saying you've successfully opted out
    10-23-09 06:26 PM
  3. TwinsX2Dad's Avatar
    Or it could be a ruse to get you to reply, setting up a premium text service.

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    10-23-09 06:30 PM
  4. tsguy52's Avatar
    Or you could try texting "stop" to it if "unsubscribe" doesn't do the trick.
    10-23-09 06:38 PM
  5. AllGood's Avatar
    Or it could be a ruse to get you to reply, setting up a premium text service.

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    I was thinking the same thing, looking for suckers to reply to know if the number is good. And i replied 2x

    Was hoping someone had seen this at all. Only been 1 a day the past couple days so its not a problem yet just the number struck me as weird.
    10-23-09 06:42 PM
  6. R.O.C.'s Avatar
    Well... When you get a charge for 9.99 on your account next month....

    Hopefully we won't have another thread about it, saying it was because of the Verizon/Alltel merger, and asking if its a way out of your contract...
    10-23-09 06:48 PM
  7. AllGood's Avatar
    Well... When you get a charge for 9.99 on your account next month....

    Hopefully we won't have another thread about it, saying it was because of the Verizon/Alltel merger, and asking if its a way out of your contract...
    not worried about a 9.99 charger. Altell had always been good with removing them when my son was signing up for things, i'd hope vzw would be too
    10-23-09 06:50 PM
  8. TwinsX2Dad's Avatar
    86235 - who calls me?

    Seems it is an active little scammer.

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    10-23-09 06:51 PM
  9. TwinsX2Dad's Avatar
    And you'd better hope a lot - if they see you actually sent a text to it, you're probably on the hook for charges.

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    10-23-09 06:52 PM
  10. itsthemusic's Avatar
    not worried about a 9.99 charger. Altell had always been good with removing them when my son was signing up for things, i'd hope vzw would be too
    So you expect a company that does business to make money to take care of your irresponsibilities? If you responded, especially 2 times... You should be held responsible for the charges.
    10-23-09 07:22 PM
  11. jlsparks's Avatar
    If it's been a problem in the past just block premium messaging. You can do so easily through VZW.com. Login to your account, select the number that's receiving the texts, go to "My Services" (I think, sorry, doing this blind), add/change services, and tick block premium messaging then save.

    My $.02.
    10-23-09 07:42 PM
  12. tsguy52's Avatar
    not worried about a 9.99 charger. Altell had always been good with removing them when my son was signing up for things, i'd hope vzw would be too
    And those Alltel reps should have never given you credit in the first place. Don't expect VZW to be so kind.
    10-23-09 08:39 PM
  13. cenloe's Avatar
    So you expect a company that does business to make money to take care of your irresponsibilities? If you responded, especially 2 times... You should be held responsible for the charges.
    I disagree. These people are called "scammers" for a reason. They trick people into responding and then, unknown to the customer, they have you on the hook for monthly charges. There is a difference between being tricked and being an ***** and not reading the fine print.

    Usually Verizon is good about removing these charges, especially if deceit is used in signing people up for something they never wanted.

    The crappy part about blocking premium texts is that they sometimes block free text services that one signs up for.
    10-23-09 10:27 PM
  14. tsguy52's Avatar
    I disagree. These people are called "scammers" for a reason. They trick people into responding and then, unknown to the customer, they have you on the hook for monthly charges. There is a difference between being tricked and being an ***** and not reading the fine print.

    Usually Verizon is good about removing these charges, especially if deceit is used in signing people up for something they never wanted.

    The crappy part about blocking premium texts is that they sometimes block free text services that one signs up for.
    So Verizon gets charged $9.99 and passes on the charges to the customer. How is this wrong? Is it right for Verizon to eat the charges? No. Especially since they provide you with the ability to block premium sms.

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    10-23-09 10:31 PM
  15. callmeox's Avatar
    So you expect a company that does business to make money to take care of your irresponsibilities? If you responded, especially 2 times... You should be held responsible for the charges.
    Yeah, because nothing says "I opt in, please charge me $9.99" like responding to a text message with "who is this?"
    Last edited by callmeox; 10-23-09 at 10:34 PM. Reason: Forgot to add the rolling eyes emoticon
    10-23-09 10:33 PM
  16. lastraid's Avatar
    In my humble opinion - Just like an email, if you donot know who it is delete it.
    10-23-09 10:35 PM
  17. tsguy52's Avatar
    Yes it does. Read the fine print on ANY tv commercial offering 10 free ringtones. Oh and these aren't vzw commercials or solicitations. So again it doesn't make it right to refund these charges. Contact the company who charged you.

    This is the same as grandpa never renting porn pay-per-view.. It doesn't rent itself.

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    10-23-09 10:36 PM
  18. callmeox's Avatar
    So Verizon gets charged $9.99 and passes on the charges to the customer. How is this wrong? Is it right for Verizon to eat the charges? No. Especially since they provide you with the ability to block premium sms.

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com

    Verizon is responsible for the business relationships that they foster. If they agree to be a conduit for scammers and then find out that they need to eat some charges, then boo-hoo. What's the saying about lying down with dogs?
    10-23-09 10:38 PM
  19. TwinsX2Dad's Avatar
    So Verizon gets charged $9.99 and passes on the charges to the customer. How is this wrong? Is it right for Verizon to eat the charges? No. Especially since they provide you with the ability to block premium sms.
    They don't eat the charges - on a one-time basis, they credit the charges, then don't pay the biller. The carrier acts as the billing agent, not the patsy.

    However, getting charges removed means you don't owe the carrier. It doesn't relieve you of the debt. While it is infrequent, the service providers are known to enter late payment & bad debt notes on your credit report & even send you to collections.

    On the other note, I have premium messages blocked & haven't had a single issue with the free subs I do have.

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    10-23-09 10:38 PM
  20. cenloe's Avatar
    So Verizon gets charged $9.99 and passes on the charges to the customer. How is this wrong? Is it right for Verizon to eat the charges? No. Especially since they provide you with the ability to block premium sms.

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    So its ok for the consumer WHO NEVER AGREED TO THE CHARGES to pay for them? Your logic is flawed buddy.

    There is no fine print with a text that reads "Wake Up".
    10-23-09 10:42 PM
  21. TwinsX2Dad's Avatar
    Verizon is responsible for the business relationships that they foster. If they agree to be a conduit for scammers and then find out that they need to eat some charges, then boo-hoo. What's the saying about lying down with dogs?
    Nope - sorry - bad answer. They are REQUIRED to do it by law. They don't enter into agreements, but are allowed to charge for being a billing agent. The carriers, local telcos & long distance providers are all willing or unwilling participants - but none enter into agreements.

    In about 15 minutes, I can start a service like these companies hit you for. It can be premium text, 900/976/676, etc., and regardless of the carrier, I bill & you get charged through your carrier. Doesn't matter if it is Qwest, VZW, AT&T, Frontier, Sprint, USCell, T-Mobile, TW, Cox or Comcast. They have to accept billing & pass the charges on.

    Figure out reality before you lie down with the dogs & make yourself sound foolish with your ill-informed words.

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    10-23-09 10:46 PM
  22. tsguy52's Avatar
    So its ok for the consumer WHO NEVER AGREED TO THE CHARGES to pay for them? Your logic is flawed buddy.

    There is no fine print with a text that reads "Wake Up".
    Really? So double opt-in doesn't give you enough warning? Sounds like you may have entered your phone number somewhere and didn't bother to read into it. That's your own fault.

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    10-23-09 10:46 PM
  23. tsguy52's Avatar
    I love when customers complain about 411 charges or 900 number charges. Can't help it you can't use google or believe your husband is talking to "hot girls across America."

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    10-23-09 10:49 PM
  24. cenloe's Avatar
    Sounds like you may have entered your phone number somewhere and didn't bother to read into it. That's your own fault.
    Nope, your are incorrect. Never happened to me, I know better. I have seen it happen to people, those who sign up for "Free Text Messages" or ringtones without reading the fine print deserve to have to pay. I'm specifically talking about the OP's example and those like it. It is obviously a scam and those customers suckered into these scams shouldn't have to pay.

    Looks like most others agree with me and your opinion is in the minority.

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    10-23-09 11:05 PM
  25. callmeox's Avatar
    Nope - sorry - bad answer. They are REQUIRED to do it by law. They don't enter into agreements, but are allowed to charge for being a billing agent. The carriers, local telcos & long distance providers are all willing or unwilling participants - but none enter into agreements.

    In about 15 minutes, I can start a service like these companies hit you for. It can be premium text, 900/976/676, etc., and regardless of the carrier, I bill & you get charged through your carrier. Doesn't matter if it is Qwest, VZW, AT&T, Frontier, Sprint, USCell, T-Mobile, TW, Cox or Comcast. They have to accept billing & pass the charges on.

    Figure out reality before you lie down with the dogs & make yourself sound foolish with your ill-informed words.

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com

    Verizon doesn't create premium text messaging relationships with other companies, except when they do.

    Premium SMS Overview

    Funny that they have a marketing and development page up for a service where they don't enter into agreements. The referral link must be fiction, too.

    I'll bet that Theresa Dixon Murray is behind it all.
    10-23-09 11:09 PM
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