1. tomwiz's Avatar
    I really should know this too considering I'm a verizon sales rep...

    I know slingplayer apps are against verizons TOC...however what about things such as slacker? just asking for my own benefit as well as for a good customer of mine
    01-08-09 11:04 AM
  2. TwinsX2Dad's Avatar
    Good question, as I have VZW & I run Slacker too.

    Watching this space with interest...

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    01-08-09 02:43 PM
  3. anon(1094684)'s Avatar
    Blackberry data is UNLIMITED...not like the aircards that are capped at 5gb. Tethering on a Blackberry IS capped at the same 5gb. I asked our Region Data Specialist this exact question.

    I just picked up Slacker...and love it so far...
    Last edited by Lapdog; 01-08-09 at 06:29 PM.
    01-08-09 06:26 PM
  4. Evermore707's Avatar
    If vzw would include wifi on it's berrys, it wouldn't be an issue. Espcially since they won't sell a bb without a data plan.

    I'd be happy with that arrangment, vzw still get their money. There's only a few people who'd want a berry with no data plan ( which i can't understand- if they want a mobile computing platform, get a netbook then..)
    01-08-09 10:16 PM
  5. triedtherest3GSisthebest's Avatar
    um do you guys remember awhile back that verizon was exposed for misleading customers about their so-called-unlimited data plan? I remember all too well cause i was using my tethering with my xv6800 around that time and engadget revealed that their is a 5gig cap on all their data plans
    01-08-09 10:21 PM
  6. kfischer009's Avatar
    If you use more than 5gigs of date they will assume you are streaming video, which they don't want you doing.
    01-08-09 10:30 PM
  7. anon(1094684)'s Avatar
    If you use more than 5gigs of date they will assume you are streaming video, which they don't want you doing.
    Now they don't care if you do it...as long as you're willing to fork out the $.25 per MB after 5GB...(I'm speaking to tethered data - Blackberry data is unlimited)
    01-09-09 09:37 AM
  8. tomwiz's Avatar
    Well, I just spoke to our account manager and streaming media not through v cast services is a violation of verizon's terms and conditions.

    So cache it up folks
    01-09-09 05:33 PM
  9. shovelheadhd's Avatar
    So to make sure I understand you right. I am not supposed to stream anything on my blackberry data plan? I don't watch youtube on my phone but sometimes its nice to listen to the radio while I'm locked away in the factory where I work. I don't want to take a chance and have vzw take away my data plan or anything.
    01-09-09 07:12 PM
  10. kvaughan's Avatar
    So to make sure I understand you right. I am not supposed to stream anything on my blackberry data plan? I don't watch youtube on my phone but sometimes its nice to listen to the radio while I'm locked away in the factory where I work. I don't want to take a chance and have vzw take away my data plan or anything.
    They're not going to take your data plan from you but could possibly drop you as a customer for violating the TOS.
    01-09-09 07:21 PM
  11. Titia78's Avatar
    Blackberry data is UNLIMITED...not like the aircards that are capped at 5gb. Tethering on a Blackberry IS capped at the same 5gb. I asked our Region Data Specialist this exact question.

    I just picked up Slacker...and love it so far...
    Should I be worried/concerned that I will face additional charges for using this application?
    01-09-09 10:41 PM
  12. borockster's Avatar
    I am an AT&T customer thanks to Verizons silliness and restrictions. Don't get me wrong...AT&T is not perfect by any means but they are head and shoulders above Verizon. I was a 5 year client of VZW....I guess I was a slow learner...
    01-09-09 11:15 PM
  13. Ponderous's Avatar
    VZW just wants to see how they can make money off us using Slacker. Stay tuned folks.

    Let them drop me. I already pay $30 a month for "unlimited*" data. I should be able to use it for what I want less anything illegal of course.

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    01-10-09 01:13 AM
  14. scurvydlicious's Avatar
    um do you guys remember awhile back that verizon was exposed for misleading customers about their so-called-unlimited data plan? I remember all too well cause i was using my tethering with my xv6800 around that time and engadget revealed that their is a 5gig cap on all their data plans
    I had a Broadband access card, and used tethering with my Blackberry at the time they offered "unlimited" data usage... I was never charged with overages, but once I reached the 4 or 5gig mark, they would throttle my connection to almost dial-up speeds. Never cut me off though, nor charged overages. One month I had over 8 gigs of use on my Broadband access card, the next month I had 10 gigs. Right about the time they put the cap in place, I got rid of the broadband access card, and I don't use tethering anymore either. I have also gone over 5 gigs with my Blackberry ( without tethering // downloading podcasts and browsing the interwebs ), I haven't been charged any overages, but once I reach about 2 or 3 gigs of data, I can tell a huge difference in speeds when downloading stuff.
    01-10-09 01:48 AM
  15. scurvydlicious's Avatar
    I am an AT&T customer thanks to Verizons silliness and restrictions. Don't get me wrong...AT&T is not perfect by any means but they are head and shoulders above Verizon. I was a 5 year client of VZW....I guess I was a slow learner...
    Yet you still post in the Verizon section....
    01-10-09 01:49 AM
  16. scurvydlicious's Avatar
    Well, I just spoke to our account manager and streaming media not through v cast services is a violation of verizon's terms and conditions.

    So cache it up folks
    It used to be against the customer agreement, but it was removed when the 5gig caps were put in place for non-unlimited data plans ( like the 5gig broadband access plans ). There used to be a whole section about how you can't stream videos, stream music or play online games... It's not in the customer agreement anymore.
    01-10-09 02:06 AM
  17. John Yester's Avatar
    DATA PLANS AND FEATURES
    Data Plans and Features (such as NationalAccess, BroadbandAccess, GlobalAccess, Push to Talk, and certain VZEmail services) may ONLY be used with wireless devices for the following purposes: (i) Internet browsing; (ii) email; and (iii) intranet access (including access to corporate intranets, email, and individual productivity applications like customer relationship management, sales force, and field service automation). The Data Plans and Features MAY NOT be used for any other purpose. Examples of prohibited uses include, without limitation, the following: (i) continuous uploading, downloading or streaming of audio or video programming or games; (ii) server devices or host computer applications, including, but not limited to, Web camera posts or broadcasts, automatic data feeds, automated machine-to-machine connections or peer-to-peer (P2P) file sharing; or (iii) as a substitute or backup for private lines or dedicated data connections. This means, by way of example only, that checking email, surfing the Internet, downloading legally acquired songs, and/or visiting corporate intranets is permitted, but downloading movies using P2P file sharing services and/or redirecting television signals for viewing on laptops is prohibited. A person engaged in prohibited uses, continuously for one hour, could typically use 100 to 200 MBs, or, if engaged in prohibited uses for 10 hours a day, 7 days a week, could use more than 5 GBs in a month.




    For individual use only and not for resale. We reserve the right to protect our network from harm, which may impact legitimate data flows. We reserve the right to limit throughput or amount of data transferred, and to deny or terminate service, without notice, to anyone we believe is using an Data Plan or Feature in any manner prohibited above or whose usage adversely impacts our network or service levels. Anyone using more than 5 GB per line in a given month is presumed to be using the service in a manner prohibited above, and we reserve the right to immediately terminate the service of any such person without notice. We also reserve the right to terminate service upon expiration of Customer Agreement term.
    Data sessions automatically terminate after 24 hours of activity. Data session is inactive when no data is being transferred. Data session may seem inactive while data is actively being transferred to device, or may seem active when it is actually cached and not transferring data. You MUST press or click END or DISCONNECT button to ensure that session disconnects and charges cease. Thirdparty applications may automatically reinitiate data sessions without you pressing or clicking SEND or CONNECT button. For the Palm TreoTM 650, the only way to disconnect your data session is to press the home key until you see “All” or “System,” then select the “Prefs” icon, then select “Network” from the drop-down list, and then “Disconnect.” You may be able to send or receive voice calls when your data session is inactive. When this occurs, charges apply simultaneously for voice calls in accordance with your Calling Plan. You are responsible for maintaining virus protection when accessing service.
    PDA/smartphone and BlackBerry Plans: These VZEmail plans cannot be used: (1) for access to the Internet, intranets, or other data networks except as the device’s native applications and capabilities permit, unless you subscribe to BroadbandAccess Connect; or (2) for any applications that tether your device to laptops or personal computers other than for use of the Wireless Sync or the BlackBerry solution, unless you subscribe to BroadbandAccess Connect.
    PDA/smartphone and BlackBerry Megabyte Features: Megabyte allowance and charges for kilobytes over the monthly allowance apply to 1xRTT and EV-DO data sessions, which are rounded to next full kilobyte at end of each billing cycle. Only total of kilobytes transmitted above allowance each billing cycle may appear on bill. You are responsible for all charges, including all data sent and received and “overhead” whether or not you or your recipients actually receive the data. Overhead is all data that is in addition to user-transmitted data, such as control, operational and routing instructions, error-checking characters as well as retransmissions of user-data messages that are received in error. Any unused portion of the megabyte allowance is lost.


    The BlackBerry Solution from Verizon Wireless: The wireless data capability of the BlackBerry device functions only within the National Enhanced Services Rate and Coverage Area. Verizon Wireless NationalAccess service is not available with the BlackBerry solution. With the BlackBerry solution, the first 2 kilobytes (KB) of each email are initially received on the BlackBerry device and you can simply request to receive additional 2KB increments. Some email attachments (Microsoft Office Word, Excel, PowerPoint, Corel WordPerfect, Adobe PDF, and ASCII text) are delivered to the BlackBerry device when requested by the end user. ZIP file browsing is available with BlackBerry Device Software v3.7. With BlackBerry Device Software v4.0, an HTML Internet browser has been added to the service in addition to full wireless PIM (Calendar, Contacts, Notes&Tasks) synchronization when using the BlackBerry device with a BlackBerry Enterprise Server.TM Graphics in emails and attachments are not delivered to the BlackBerry device. When the BlackBerry device reaches its memory storage capacity, email stored on the device will automatically be deleted from it, starting with the oldest emails first. BlackBerry Desktop Software using BlackBerry Desktop Redirector only supports Microsoft Exchange environments. Up to ten POP3/IMAP and ISP email accounts are supported through use of the BlackBerry Internet Service.TM
    Verizon Wireless Calling Plans, Rate and Coverage Areas, rates, agreement provisions, business practices, procedures and policies are subject to change as specified in the Customer Agreement.
    01-10-09 02:13 AM
  18. scurvydlicious's Avatar
    @yester18
    Where did you find that? I have been looking for it for a while. That looks like the old customer agreement.
    01-10-09 02:21 AM
  19. JamesDP's Avatar
    I am an AT&T customer thanks to Verizons silliness and restrictions. Don't get me wrong...AT&T is not perfect by any means but they are head and shoulders above Verizon. I was a 5 year client of VZW....I guess I was a slow learner...
    I also was a Verizon customer. I got fed up with they way they like to cripple their devices and try to charge you to use their services that wouldn't be necessary if they let the phones do what they were capable of. Switching to AT&T was the best thing I ever did in the phone world (granted AT&T sucks at things from time to time but still way ahead of VZW).
    01-10-09 02:23 AM
  20. John Yester's Avatar
    Enter your location


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    01-10-09 02:23 AM
  21. scurvydlicious's Avatar
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    Nice, thanks. Nix whatever I said, obviously I was wrong
    01-10-09 02:27 AM
  22. John Yester's Avatar
    Nice, thanks. Nix whatever I said, obviously I was wrong

    np at all
    01-10-09 02:32 AM
  23. blacktoothberry's Avatar
    Blackberry data is UNLIMITED...not like the aircards that are capped at 5gb. Tethering on a Blackberry IS capped at the same 5gb. I asked our Region Data Specialist this exact question.

    I just picked up Slacker...and love it so far...
    It not capped at 5gb .What happens after 5gb Verizon throttles your download speed down .
    01-10-09 02:44 AM
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