1. progman2000's Avatar
    I am getting ready to switch jobs and I have the option with the new company of putting my Verizon Curve on their company Verizon plan and having them pay 100% of the bill. What are the downsides here, assuming there are not restrictions on voice & data? Can my employer see anything on my activity over and beyond what I see on my bill? I am assuming they can't see websites viewed, content of SMS texts, etc, correct? What else should I be concerned about? I am due for an upgrade in February and was counting on the Tour so I am kind of bummed if that is out of my control.
    07-20-09 08:12 AM
  2. jdbower#CB's Avatar
    Assume that anything you do on your work Blackberry can be read by the company, generally most companies don't mind personal use as long as it doesn't interfere with your job but you may want to check with your manager. Obviously there's a big difference between checking your home email and sending pornographic pictures to your significant other...

    I'm not sure about SMS/MMS contents, but if it's a BES plan they apparently can see BBM messages and under most situations the browser goes through the company's network (this allows you to access internal company websites).

    BES policies may also limit the applications you can install and remove on the device. My old company had a bizarre policy that allowed me to install but not delete or upgrade applications. Whenever there was a new version of Google Maps I had to wipe the device using JL Commander and reinstall it.

    I don't think you'd have any issues with upgrading to the Tour yourself, but again you may want to check on that. You may have issues upgrading operating systems, though, so getting a phone when it first comes out isn't a great idea until you figure out if you can live with the bugs.

    Another option is to get a second BB to separate your work and home accounts.
    07-20-09 08:23 AM
  3. progman2000's Avatar
    Good point - I should have mentioned that BES is not an issue here - people have a wide range of phones at this place, I would still be BIS.
    07-20-09 08:48 AM
  4. gvillager's Avatar
    Your number becomes their number. They don't have to give it back when you decide to leave.

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    07-20-09 08:54 AM
  5. jdbower#CB's Avatar
    BES has some benefits for both the employee and the company, but if it's BIS I don't see much benefit to signing the phone over to them. Even though there isn't as much ability to easily snoop on your data, I'd much rather have the account in my name and fill out an expense report monthly than have them take care of everything. If they're willing to pay for home Internet (for example, if you work from home) or if you've got other routine expenses it's not much additional trouble if they'll allow it.

    Of course the option of a new service and Blackberry for work use only is also still viable, that way you can keep work and play separate.

    Your number becomes their number. They don't have to give it back when you decide to leave.
    Another good point, unless you start using Google Voice which is pretty darn cool!
    07-20-09 09:00 AM
  6. BlackObsidian's Avatar
    If you aren't connecting to BES and they allow you to expense your plan then there isn't much point in switching. However some companies will only pay if on their plans since there are corporate discounts. With BIS only there aren't really any privacy concerns other than your employer would have the numbers of people you called. If your concern is losing the phone number then check with the company, most I have dealt with will give you the number back when you leave, even if it was theirs to begin with.
    07-20-09 08:21 PM
  7. michaelbsc's Avatar
    Your number becomes their number. They don't have to give it back when you decide to leave.

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    There is a move by the IRS to tax phone usage that's provided by the employer. Keep them apart and you may be able to deduct as an expense. Let them get comingled and you'll end up paying taxes on your own phone.

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    07-20-09 08:36 PM
  8. michaelbsc's Avatar
    There is a move by the IRS to tax the benefit of the phone provided by the employer. Keep them apart and you may be able to deduct some. Let them get comingled and you'll end up paying taxes on your own phone.

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    07-20-09 08:41 PM
  9. vatothe0's Avatar
    You can say that again.
    07-20-09 09:14 PM
  10. tourofduty's Avatar
    i know with us that if you go ahead with the corporate activation, BB's on site get locked down / disabled with the company security policy . . . so users can NOT wipe out their BB's, reinstall OS, etc without permission.
    07-21-09 08:05 AM
  11. blue_and_bold's Avatar
    i know with us that if you go ahead with the corporate activation, BB's on site get locked down / disabled with the company security policy . . . so users can NOT wipe out their BB's, reinstall OS, etc without permission.
    True and a lot of time the applications that you can install are limited, and certain sites may be limited too.
    07-21-09 08:49 AM
  12. BlackObsidian's Avatar
    i know with us that if you go ahead with the corporate activation, BB's on site get locked down / disabled with the company security policy . . . so users can NOT wipe out their BB's, reinstall OS, etc without permission.
    True and a lot of time the applications that you can install are limited, and certain sites may be limited too.
    While this is true in cases where you are connecting to a Corporate BES, according to the OP this isn't the case so it isn't a concern in this instance, though it would definitely be something to consider if you are connecting to a BES.
    07-21-09 09:06 AM
  13. blue_and_bold's Avatar
    What are the downsides here, .
    Something to keep in mind
    07-21-09 09:22 AM
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