1. DesertDogs's Avatar
    It is popping up all over the net that Verizon has slated the Omnia2 and about four other phones for release on August 23rd.

    Comments? Insight? Cheers? Boos? Bricks? Bouquets? Anyone with inside knowledge?

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    08-10-09 04:10 PM
  2. lastraid's Avatar
    I have seen nothing on the inside. If I did I could not tell you
    08-10-09 04:55 PM
  3. DesertDogs's Avatar
    I have seen nothing on the inside. If I did I could not tell you
    Come on. Tell me. Then try to kill me. You know you want to.

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    08-10-09 06:12 PM
  4. Wireless Vet's Avatar
    No word here.
    08-10-09 07:12 PM
  5. sprke81's Avatar
    I'll be giving the O2 a try once it comes out but I'm not expecting anything much different then the other versions of Winmo. I hope I'm pleasantly surprised

    I've been hearing that 6.5 is not much more then a new "skin" for winmo and that 7 is going to be the real deal.
    08-10-09 08:25 PM
  6. blue_and_bold's Avatar
    I'll be giving the O2 a try once it comes out but I'm not expecting anything much different then the other versions of Winmo. I hope I'm pleasantly surprised

    I've been hearing that 6.5 is not much more then a new "skin" for winmo and that 7 is going to be the real deal.
    I've heard some good things from twins about the O2 release might have to go in and play with it for a while.
    08-11-09 09:57 AM
  7. TwinsX2Dad's Avatar
    I'll be giving the O2 a try once it comes out but I'm not expecting anything much different then the other versions of Winmo. I hope I'm pleasantly surprised

    I've been hearing that 6.5 is not much more then a new "skin" for winmo and that 7 is going to be the real deal.
    It is a minor update to keep an edge up. It adds a full flash browser using basically an IE6 core with security enhancements, so no need for Skyfire. It also makes it easier for Opera to provide flash, as well. It also enhances support for multi-touch operation & cleans up a lot of the menus & adds some extra config options.

    The big disappointment is it still does not offer support for capacitive touch interfaces, ala iPhone/Pre/Android - still resistive. With the Samsung TouchWiz2, some support is added, as well as a series of other UI enhancements. We'll have to wait for WM7 for full support.

    And yes, WM7 is the big one & is supposedly running ahead of schedule (surprise). We could see it this next spring.

    6.5, Like BB4.5+, is incremental & should keep WM fans happy. With overlays, it can even attract users.

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    08-11-09 02:09 PM
  8. TwinsX2Dad's Avatar
    It is popping up all over the net that Verizon has slated the Omnia2 and about four other phones for release on August 23rd.
    Just re
    Ad that - is about 30 days earlier than I thought. If true, it will be nice, but many will then have to update to WM6.5 on their own.

    Thankfully, updating WM is a piece of cake & incremental bug fixes are auto-update OTA.

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    08-11-09 03:08 PM
  9. sprke81's Avatar
    @Twins, have you had any time with the Touch Pro 2? That one keeps drawing my attention because of the physical kb. Its still 6.1 tho altho I'm sure it will be upgrade to 6.5

    I think I remember you bashing HTC while back

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    08-11-09 04:41 PM
  10. bs1two's Avatar
    I am not as curious about the O2 as I am the HTC phones coming out slated for Q4. However I might dabble with the O2 if it's impressive enough in my hands!
    08-11-09 08:46 PM
  11. TwinsX2Dad's Avatar
    @Twins, have you had any time with the Touch Pro 2? That one keeps drawing my attention because of the physical kb. Its still 6.1 tho altho I'm sure it will be upgrade to 6.5

    I think I remember you bashing HTC while back

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    I am not a fan of HTC phones - but many I know are. They don't feel as well made & more often than not, they ship with WM6.1 Standard, instead of Pro.

    The HTC Touch Pro is upgradeable to 6.5 - it is one of the few phones currently out that will upgrade. If you get a phone that isn't advertised as specifically upgradeable to WM6.5, it isn't - so get one of the current $99 specials & you will be stuck on 6.1, probably forever.

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    08-11-09 08:56 PM
  12. sjsjr's Avatar
    @Twins, have you had any time with the Touch Pro 2? That one keeps drawing my attention because of the physical kb. Its still 6.1 tho altho I'm sure it will be upgrade to 6.5

    I think I remember you bashing HTC while back

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    Yeah I was wondering about the Touch Pro 2 as well. I read some reviews on CNET ( I think that is where I read it but don't quote me on that) that said it was a better all around phone then the Omnia 2 but I like to hear reviews from many different sources. I like the idea of a touchscreen phone with a physical keyboard. The only other one I saw was the Omnia Pro and from what I understand it is not coming to Verizon. I don't even know if it is coming to the states for that matter.

    So I too am asking Twins indulgence, any news?
    08-11-09 09:06 PM
  13. TwinsX2Dad's Avatar
    OmniaPro is not currently planned for North America. From my understanding, neither is OmniaHD - but there is a better shot at HD than Pro. Why Samsung went this route, I don't know. I do know that the OmniaPro with WM7 would be a BlackBerry killer, in every way, except push.

    The HTC TouchPro2 I have had some hands-on with, in quad-band form. It is a decent device, but a bit of a battery hog, much like the Tilt was. The large screen & WiFi had a bit to do with that, but I think TouchFlo also plays a part - it keeps so many processes called up that the poor battery doesn't stand a chance.

    If you like the tilt-screen format, it would merit some serious consideration.

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    08-11-09 09:42 PM
  14. Polychrome's Avatar
    Two words: I wish.

    I've been waiting for that darn thing ever since Samsung spilled the beans.

    Though honestly we're in the dark. Nobody knows the real release date, at least not in the call centers.

    Omnia 2 isn't the HD version, but it's still pretty darn nice. I've been waiting for a convergent device with a scren that could beat my iPaq 210!

    Edit to Add: I honestly would prefer WinMo stay resistive as far as touchscreens go. I prefer using handwriting recognition on PDAs, ever since my little Palm m105. Sure, you can't do crazy iPhone stuff with it, but handwriting recognition beats that hands down IMO.
    Last edited by Polychrome; 08-11-09 at 09:46 PM.
    08-11-09 09:44 PM
  15. TwinsX2Dad's Avatar
    Edit to Add: I honestly would prefer WinMo stay resistive as far as touchscreens go. I prefer using handwriting recognition on PDAs, ever since my little Palm m105. Sure, you can't do crazy iPhone stuff with it, but handwriting recognition beats that hands down IMO.
    Very true - but fear not, lovely lady. WM7 will handle both, unlike Palm/iPhone. The device is what will make the determination.

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    08-11-09 10:41 PM
  16. sjsjr's Avatar
    It seems that more and more phones are going the all touch screen route. I personally don't like the trend because for some reason my fingers do not work well with them. I don't even have large hands. I tried many different phones that were all touch screen and I could not type well on them and I had problems using apps and such because I would "click" on the wrong spot. Oh well the Omnia 2 still has my interest peaked.

    And I almost forgot. Thank you Twins for the info.
    08-11-09 11:58 PM
  17. TwinsX2Dad's Avatar
    Now that most everyone is sacked out or have left for the evening - we has four delightful law enforcement types we met earlier in the day over for food & drink after their shifts - I can add a bit more. I was writing on the sly earlier. Although I am now writing on the slosh, mellowed by some delicious single-malt.
    TP2 (Touch Pro 2): heavy & the camera sucks. The accelerometer is often slow to react, and sometimes requires a slide of the keyboard to switch to landscape mode. TFT screen is nice until you set it along side the Samsung AMOLED display. In the hand, the thing feels huge - and I say that as someone who can easily palm a regulation basketball. The TP2 strikes me as a souped up version of the AT&T Tilt, also made by HTC. The Tilt never was a favorite of mine.

    WM6.5: As I mentioned previously (in some thread today), this is WM6.5 with many bugs ironed out. It adds multi-touch but no capacitive touchscreen support. Browser has flash & full support for all Internet/Interweb formats, including PDF files.

    WM7: This is where it gets exciting. Besides adding capacitive touch support, it still handles resistive. You can choose which one you prefer by simply selecting a different device. The capacitive funstions go far beyond those of iPhone & Pre. Yes, you'll be able to do gestures & such, but you'll also have motion gestures. Shake the device for certain commands, tilt/twist it for others. It will recognize the difference between a press, a tap or a flick.

    You will not need any magnet gimmicks, ala BlackBerry - the device will detect when it is in your pocket/purse, yet act differently in the dark - it isn't just light sentitivity; it is also proximity sensitive.

    The motion & the "pocket" profiles are made possible not from simply an accelerometer, but also the camera.

    The OS is built from the ground up to be a mobile platform - not a downsized laptop one. Besides flash & PDF capabilities, the browser will be tabbed. A flick of the phone will change the tab, as will a touch of the tab or a press of the rocker switch.

    The touchpads will be able to recognize pressure & speed, even though they won't move. The OS will offer the ability fo it to recognize these things on the fly, based on initial touch, as well as increased contact area resulting from more finger pressure.

    Advanced power management will mean some devices could hit a month between charges, if usage is low.

    I have seen BB5 and it can't do any of these things. Coming this next summer, to a carrier near you, will be a mobile platform that will not only make BlackBerry look bad, it will eat iPhone's lunch, too.

    Of course, Apple also has some new tricks coming - I just don't think they'll be able to match WM - and if they do, MS is promising WM8 in the not-too-distant future.

    As long as the economy recovers & we're not turned into a bunch of Socialist drones, it will be an exciting time to be in the market for a mobile device.

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    08-12-09 12:25 AM
  18. Polychrome's Avatar

    WM7: This is where it gets exciting. Besides adding capacitive touch support, it still handles resistive. You can choose which one you prefer by simply selecting a different device. The capacitive funstions go far beyond those of iPhone & Pre. Yes, you'll be able to do gestures & such, but you'll also have motion gestures. Shake the device for certain commands, tilt/twist it for others. It will recognize the difference between a press, a tap or a flick.
    So basically, it's like the table...only smaller?
    08-12-09 12:39 AM
  19. sprke81's Avatar
    Hmmmm that all sounds very interesting. I especially like the part that they have designed it to be a mobile platform and not a laptop crammed into a phone. If this is the case 7 is going to get my attention.

    The pocket profile using the cam etc sounds slick to.

    Any other info you wanna share I'm all ears

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    08-12-09 12:40 AM
  20. sjsjr's Avatar
    Don't know if anyone else saw this, and I don't know if it is just rumor or true but.....

    I happened across an article from Cnet that said the Omnia 2, LG Chocolate Touch, Samsung u450 Intensity, Global Aircard G2, and the Samsung Rogue are all being released on the 23. This was from a leaked picture on a Best Buy computer screen or something. When I did a search on the Rogue to see what it was there was actually a Verizon website for it but it was a screen that said either "moved, temporarily unavailable, or cannot be located."

    Anyone know what the Rogue is?
    08-13-09 02:20 PM
  21. blue_and_bold's Avatar
    The word "Rogue" conjures images of awesome X-Men characters, small Nissan SUVs, and badasses who don't take crap from nobody -- but QWERTY sliders on Verizon? We'll admit, we didn't see that one coming. The would-be Glyde replacement is apparently lined up for a release date around the 15th of August, and we're seeing it now for the first time in pristine press shots following some in-the-wild action early in the month. We can tell already that it's going to be a better-looking phone than its predecessor, and the word on the street is that it works as good as it looks; if anything, it's a shame they didn't just go ahead and slap WinMo on here and call it an Omnia Pro. Can't win 'em all, we suppose.
    08-13-09 02:29 PM
  22. TwinsX2Dad's Avatar
    Samsung U960 - it might be renamed Glyde2 instead of conjuring images of World of Warcraft characters.

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    08-13-09 03:59 PM
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