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  1. ips8's Avatar
    I doubt they are doing this with ALL of their devices....have fun making bing the only search engine on the google based droids.
    12-16-09 02:43 PM
  2. KGCATCH22's Avatar
    Hey All,

    I had a few questions about Opera in light of this browser/google madness.

    Does it support suretype in the address field? Everytime I switch to the address bar it brings it into multitap. When I use google search it brings it into suretype which is much better. Also Im assuming that surepress dosen't work. I was loving my storm 2 but now im just pissed at Verizon for forcing Bing on us.

    -KG
    12-16-09 02:45 PM
  3. ips8's Avatar
    It seems very weird with what keyboard shows up in portrait mode, but it supports surepress for typing but not navigating or clicking. I love the new Opera beta so far besides a few issues. Cant wait till RIM puts out webkit (assuming they dont ruin it with bing) either.
    12-16-09 02:51 PM
  4. racinwarrior's Avatar
    I agree.

    Btw, nice mustang... '69 mach1?

    yep good eye.
    12-16-09 02:57 PM
  5. racinwarrior's Avatar
    Its official. Blackberry confirms that Verizon gets to tell you who you can search with. See the below text of an email from Blackberry I received today. Thank you Verizon for deciding what is best for me ! Lord knows I cannot be trusted to make my own decisions !

    Hello Eric,

    Thank you for contacting BlackBerry Customer Support.

    Per Verizon Wireless request they only allow Bing to be the

    service search engine in there devices.

    If you have further questions contact Verizon Wireless directly.

    If you require further assistance, please feel free to contact us.

    Thank you again for contacting us.

    Sincerely,


    Juan
    BlackBerry Customer Support
    Research In Motion Limited
    Tel:
    NA Toll Free: 1-877-255-2377
    UK Toll Free: 0808 100 7466
    Europe: +44 1753 558400
    Worldwide: +1-519-888-6181
    Email: help@blackberry.com
    Web: Smartphones, Cell Phones & Smart Phones at BlackBerry.com

    ***Now Available - BlackBerry Training for BlackBerry Enterprise Server software administrators. For information about current course offerings, please visit BlackBerry - BlackBerry | Wireless Handheld Devices, Software & Services from Research In Motion (RIM).
    way to use the correct word in the correct context RIM
    12-16-09 02:58 PM
  6. racinwarrior's Avatar
    Which search provider is better is irrelevant. The fact of the matter is this limits peoples' choice. Personally I use opera 5 beta so it doesn't make too much difference, but not everyone wants to use another browser, separate app, or whatever other extra steps are necessary to use the provider they want.
    exactly my point as well....

    i could care less Bing is default now...

    i have a problem with verizon dictating what i can and cant have on MY phone
    12-16-09 03:01 PM
  7. Damademan3's Avatar
    way to use the correct word in the correct context RIM
    thats why i think its a fake email.
    12-16-09 03:02 PM
  8. montyl's Avatar
    As posted by EricGottfried Verizon has made a contractual deal with MS. Last night I was reading about this problem on the .428 leak problems and fixes. Since I had upgraded my phone to .428 Monday night along with BBM to .55 and I still had all 4 search engines after battery pulls and service book resends. Then this morning I see 2 new emails in my vzw.blackberry.net account from Activation Server sent at 00:54 and now I only have the Bing search option. RIM can not push out any software to VZW phones without going thru VZW first.
    If you are willing to waste the time calling VZW tech support they are most likely not going to know anything about this (as noted by several others) since it is not part of their troubleshooting flow chart.
    I personally think this is MS's way to become the big dog in the smartphone business, and since BB is far superior to Windows Mobile, and RIM is most likely not going to make a deal with MS, they went to one of the bigger cell carriers which is Verizon, because Verizon requires specific software constraints on all of their devices prior to release. Look at how long it has taken to have access to the GPS chip in your BB without having to pay for a VZW fee.
    12-16-09 03:11 PM
  9. montyl's Avatar
    thats why i think its a fake email.
    RIM was probably using MS Word to write their reply, it passed the spell check, but MS often fails on context check.
    12-16-09 03:13 PM
  10. puffnstuff's Avatar
    Support from both companies keeps pointing fingers at each other. Supposedly I was transferred to a "corporate liaison" whatever that means and was told I would get a call back, got his number also. I don't care about why just fix it!

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    12-16-09 03:51 PM
  11. gmardre's Avatar
    What am I missing? I have "Google" set as my homepage, so when I start my browser, Google comes up with the search box big as day right there.

    jr
    12-16-09 04:02 PM
  12. bizinsider's Avatar
    Re Opera: It has its bugs, which will ultimately be worked out. But at this point I would be very happy to make it my default browser. It could be faster, but is generally faster than the BB browser. And it is just, well, cool. (I have no relationship w/Opera and, in fact, was quite disappointed with the prior version when I got my S2; wasn't that great on S1, either. Now they actually use the Storm as a featured product on their web page.)
    12-16-09 04:07 PM
  13. bizinsider's Avatar
    Is there any way to make Opera the default browser? anybody?
    12-16-09 04:10 PM
  14. silenttt123's Avatar
    Omg I just noticed bing is the default for me too. Screw that I hate bing. I think I will just set my home page to google

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    12-16-09 04:13 PM
  15. howarmat's Avatar
    thats why i think its a fake email.
    way to use the correct word in the correct context RIM
    i noticed the same thing!
    12-16-09 04:17 PM
  16. r1ckynutz's Avatar
    What am I missing? I have "Google" set as my homepage, so when I start my browser, Google comes up with the search box big as day right there.

    jr

    X2
    But it helps to have it on quick search
    12-16-09 04:20 PM
  17. NEPABBuser's Avatar
    I doubt they are doing this with ALL of their devices....have fun making bing the only search engine on the google based droids.
    When I talked to Verizon they said all the internet capable devices except for the google based ones will be set to Bing
    12-16-09 04:26 PM
  18. rewster's Avatar
    Side note: All this "bing sucks" stuff is pretty funny. I have been using it pretty heavily and it is WAY better than Google. The search results are far more relevant to the search phrase and also better organized. Google gets more hits but a lot of them tend to be dreck.
    Well, let's put this to the test! I would like to know how big the sun is. So I will type the following query into Google and Bing: "How big is the sun"

    Here are the results:
    Google =
    First 4 results tell you exactly how big the sun is. (I stopped after the fourth since I found my answer. My, how efficient that was!!!)

    Bing =
    *First result is a garden design business
    *Second result is from Boston.com with photos of the sun (with no info on size)
    *Third result is a blog about result #2
    *Fourth result (my favorite) is gossip about the show 'Big Brother' next to some soft porn (WTF does that have to do with the sun???)
    *Fifth result provides information on how the sun works, but still no information on size
    *Sixth result is an environmental blog that is not about the sun
    *Seventh result is a forum about the Red Sox acquiring a player from the Orioles
    *Eighth result is a wikipedia article about the sun. Which finally tells me how big it is.

    So please explain to me how bing is "WAY better than Google" and tell me again whose search results "tend to be dreck." I suppose if you are interested in the latest Hollywood gossip, or simply for finding porn, then Bing may be far superior. Otherwise, its not even in the same league as Google.

    What's even funnier, is that there was a blog post about this in June:
    Why Bing Sucks Code Lemur!
    And even after another six months, Bing still hasn't figured out how big the sun is!
    Last edited by rewster; 12-16-09 at 04:41 PM.
    12-16-09 04:34 PM
  19. puffnstuff's Avatar
    Found something odd. I used Bing to search and when results came up I looked at the page address and it says //search.vzwwap.com/vzwsearch/?q=(search term I used)&qi=RIM, result page branded in Verizon red, on my wifes Tour which still has all options it says //m.bing.com/Search/search.aspx?A=results&mid5050&enc=utf-8& and it keeps going, result page branded in Bing blue. Does this mean it is Verizon doing this?
    Last edited by puffnstuff; 12-16-09 at 05:53 PM.
    12-16-09 05:39 PM
  20. evillive's Avatar
    If you use bing and then use google and search for "bing sucks" it gives you some good responses.

    I talked to 3 people at VZW today and none of them knew what was going on then the 4th person told me some crap google not wanting anyone to use google search unless its on a Droid. So this oneagain proves that people who work for VZW are idiots and are really not needed at all.
    12-16-09 05:46 PM
  21. montyl's Avatar
    I just plugged my Storm 2 into computer and it told me there was some config changes, so I canceled everything and found out sure enough VZW pushed New Service Books to me last night and wouldnt you know it of the * VPL [BrowserConfig] books sent Bing is the only search engine there.

    rewster, when bing first went public on PC's that was pretty much what happened when I used it once is that it's results were useless, so on my PC I opened Google and had my answers in seconds. Which is pretty much the same all my IT friends are agreeing with.
    12-16-09 06:01 PM
  22. silenttt123's Avatar
    I made a bookmark for google now. I am tempted to call Verizon and chew em a new one for this BS I hate bing. They shouldn't be making me use something I don't want to use.

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    12-16-09 06:21 PM
  23. danesy's Avatar
    I noticed the same thing this morning. I tried using stupid Bing.... I was looking for a new wallpaper for my phone. So, as a Red Sox fan, I typed "Boston Red Sox Logo" in the search. I then clicked on "images". The results were dreadful. It was all pics of the actual players.... when I search on Google, I get a ton of ACTUAL Boston Red Sox logo pics.

    I'm setting my homepage to Google. This Bing is GARBAGE!!!!
    12-16-09 06:33 PM
  24. ips8's Avatar
    When I talked to Verizon they said all the internet capable devices except for the google based ones will be set to Bing
    It makes perfect sense for winmobile phones...but not BBs.... if i wanted a phone with mainly windows functions id get winmobile. If droid as out when i got my S1 i would have considered it over the storm. There were a ton of winmobile phones out before the storm and I chose not to get it. Stop forcing us to use awful search engines Verizon/RIM
    12-16-09 06:41 PM
  25. Mike13USN's Avatar
    hmm...guess its old news. Noticed this change and you all confirmed it....so stupid
    12-16-09 07:23 PM
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