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  1. gotblackberry's Avatar
    As further reference, here are the cell sites in Anniston, AL:

    On Blue Mtn. 0.5 Mi Ne Of (Lat: 33.680944 Lon: -85.815528)
    Type: Tower
    Structure height: 54.9 m
    Overall height: 56.1 m
    Call Sign: KNKA665869.040 MHz, 824.040 MHz, 890.010 MHz, 845.010 MHz, 834.390 MHz, 879.390 MHz, 869.040 MHz, 824.040 MHz, 890.010 MHz, 845.010 MHz... (+8 more)
    Grant Date: 12/09/1988
    Certifier: John T Scott
    IiiRegistrant: Verizon Wireless, 1120 Sanctuary Pkwy, #150 Gasa5reg, Alpharetta, GA 30004, Phone: (770) 797-1070, Fax: (770) 797-1036

    On Blue Mountain, 0.5 Miles Northeast Of (Lat: 33.680944 Lon: -85.815528)
    Call Sign: KNKQ224
    Assigned Frequencies : 869.040 MHz, 890.010 MHz, 834.390 MHz, 879.390 MHz, 824.040 MHz, 845.010 MHz
    Grant Date: 10/03/1991
    Registrant: Gte Service Corporation, 1850 M Street N.W., Suite 1200, Washington, DC 20036, Phone: (202) 463-5295, Fax: (202) 463-5239

    26th Street Blue Mountain (Lat: 33.681778 Lon: -85.815806)
    Call Sign: KNKA575880.020 MHz, 891.510 MHz, 835.020 MHz, 880.020 MHz, 835.020 MHz, 846.510 MHz, 880.020 MHz, 891.510 MHz, 835.020 MHz, 880.020 MHz, 835.020 MHz, 846.510 MHz
    Grant Date: 11/06/2007
    Certifier: David C Jatlow
    Registrant: At&t Mobility LLC, 5601 Legacy Drive Ms A-3, Plano, TX 75024, Phone: (469) 229-7422, Fax: (469) 229-72972

    Park Road (Lat: 33.620111 Lon: -85.872750)
    Call Sign: KNKA575
    880.020 MHz, 891.510 MHz, 835.020 MHz, 880.020 MHz, 835.020 MHz, 846.510 MHz, 880.020 MHz, 891.510 MHz, 835.020 MHz, 880.020 MHz, 835.020 MHz, 846.510 MHz
    Grant Date: 11/06/2007
    Certifier: David C Jatlow
    Registrant: At&t Mobility LLC, 5601 Legacy Drive Ms A-3, Plano, TX 75024, Phone: (469) 229-7422, Fax: (469) 229-7297

    Again, if your friend's VZW service is subpar in the area, it would have to be a device issue. There is 800MHz GSM presence through AT&T & 800MHz CDMA presence through VZW. There is no 1900MHz Sprint service listed, so Sprint customers would be roaming using the 800MHz capability of their phones. The odds of Sprint customers roaming on a non-native system, having better coverage than a customer on the native network, are slim and none. Unless, of course, there is something wrong with the phone.

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    Amazing. LOL
    05-12-09 06:08 PM
  2. gotblackberry's Avatar
    I just got back from the grand canyon. I had marginal coverage on my storm. The only place I had really good coverage was at Yavapi Point...

    I was disappointed w/ Verizon during that time. I stayed in the town Tusayan? (sp?) and I had okay coverage. I think it might have something to do with it being a national park and Verizon not being allowed to put towers there? I mean I would think Verizon would want to have towers at the grand canyon.
    05-12-09 06:10 PM
  3. DesertDogs's Avatar
    I just got back from the grand canyon. I had marginal coverage on my storm. The only place I had really good coverage was at Yavapi Point...

    I was disappointed w/ Verizon during that time. I stayed in the town Tusayan? (sp?) and I had okay coverage. I think it might have something to do with it being a national park and Verizon not being allowed to put towers there? I mean I would think Verizon would want to have towers at the grand canyon.
    It was about a year ago that towers went up near Tusayan because before that it was a black hole for service starting about 40 miles north of Williams and I-40. This was for all carriers.

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    05-12-09 06:22 PM
  4. TwinsX2Dad's Avatar
    Park Service & Reservation restrictions - BIA and all that.

    The coverage at the South Rim is marginal & accomplished mostly with directionals. Fredonia, at the east edge, closer to Hwy 89 used to be the closest signal and that was mainly thanks to ADOT easements. With the tourism up there, you can rest assured that if VZW had their way, there would be loads of towers - disguised as trees, rocks & muledeer - in CDMA & GSM flavors (just to rake in the Euro vacationers needing roaming).

    I have two mobile booster antennas on my RV, so I can get further than most, but still, it isn't good.

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    05-12-09 06:29 PM
  5. gotblackberry's Avatar
    I figured it was the national park restrictions but I did call family while overlooking yavapi point.


    It was my first time there. It was awesome.

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    05-12-09 06:32 PM
  6. Team Gato's Avatar
    Love Verizon and it's service I travel all over the U.S of A due to my boxing career and get coverage everywhere and as for the service to be a lil prices who care you get what you pay for and for me its great I get my calls all the time. If you dont like verizon hey there are those other company just pay the early termination fee and boom you can go with the other carriers.

    P.S sorry for the tough love but it's the truth
    05-12-09 06:37 PM
  7. sprke81's Avatar
    Isn't there some kinda gsm roaming there now with Alltel? When I was there, there was some foreign boys yakking into some phone that was not offered by any of the carriers here lol. I just assumed that Alltel was providing gsm there.
    05-12-09 07:06 PM
  8. TwinsX2Dad's Avatar
    I figured it was the national park restrictions but I did call family while overlooking yavapi point.


    It was my first time there. It was awesome.
    It is awesome - great place to head in the summertime, especially if you enjoy hearing people speak in languages you'll have difficulty identifying.

    Sad thing is, I find it incredible how many Arizonans, native Arizonans even, who have never been.

    Next up, look toward Hawley Lake & Kartchner Caverns, the latter when it is a little cooler. Hawley is up over 9000ft and is cool all year. Rent cabin & take fishing pole.
    P.S sorry for the tough love but it's the truth
    That it is.

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    05-12-09 07:06 PM
  9. gotblackberry's Avatar
    Yeah I met some guy from the netherlands. Pictures don't do it justice.

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    05-12-09 07:09 PM
  10. gotblackberry's Avatar
    I keep hearing about skyview? Some glass lookout? Of course I hear about this when I get back?

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    05-12-09 07:11 PM
  11. sprke81's Avatar
    I keep hearing about skyview? Some glass lookout? Of course I hear about this when I get back?

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    Yea, we wanted to go up there to. I asked some of the locals about it and nobody recommended it, said it was to expensive and to hard to get to.

    Don't think I could get my wife to go out on it anyway
    05-12-09 07:16 PM
  12. gotblackberry's Avatar
    Yeah I doubt the girlfriend would have went. I would have though.

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    05-12-09 07:18 PM
  13. TwinsX2Dad's Avatar
    Yea, we wanted to go up there to. I asked some of the locals about it and nobody recommended it, said it was to expensive and to hard to get to.

    Don't think I could get my wife to go out on it anyway
    $75 for a few minutes. It is not worth it, especially since it is overlooking a small & remote gorge that isn't part of the main canyon.

    I will find a pic of it - but we should get back to being sick of Verizon before the thread is closed.

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    05-12-09 08:04 PM
  14. gotblackberry's Avatar
    WOW That's ridiculous. I wouldn't have gone for that. I was mad that I had to pay $25 to see a natural landmark.
    05-12-09 08:06 PM
  15. juniorfan's Avatar
    You def get what you pay for. I had a $57 a month bill with Sprint for what I pay $97 for on Verizon, and I don't regret paying the $40 extra a month at all. It is nice to receive all my texts/calls and not have any unplanned outages when it comes to my data.
    05-12-09 08:28 PM
  16. numus's Avatar
    As further reference, here are the cell sites in Anniston, AL:

    On Blue Mtn. 0.5 Mi Ne Of (Lat: 33.680944 Lon: -85.815528)
    Type: Tower
    Structure height: 54.9 m
    Overall height: 56.1 m
    Call Sign: KNKA665869.040 MHz, 824.040 MHz, 890.010 MHz, 845.010 MHz, 834.390 MHz, 879.390 MHz, 869.040 MHz, 824.040 MHz, 890.010 MHz, 845.010 MHz... (+8 more)
    Grant Date: 12/09/1988
    Certifier: John T Scott
    IiiRegistrant: Verizon Wireless, 1120 Sanctuary Pkwy, #150 Gasa5reg, Alpharetta, GA 30004, Phone: (770) 797-1070, Fax: (770) 797-1036

    On Blue Mountain, 0.5 Miles Northeast Of (Lat: 33.680944 Lon: -85.815528)
    Call Sign: KNKQ224
    Assigned Frequencies : 869.040 MHz, 890.010 MHz, 834.390 MHz, 879.390 MHz, 824.040 MHz, 845.010 MHz
    Grant Date: 10/03/1991
    Registrant: Gte Service Corporation, 1850 M Street N.W., Suite 1200, Washington, DC 20036, Phone: (202) 463-5295, Fax: (202) 463-5239

    26th Street Blue Mountain (Lat: 33.681778 Lon: -85.815806)
    Call Sign: KNKA575880.020 MHz, 891.510 MHz, 835.020 MHz, 880.020 MHz, 835.020 MHz, 846.510 MHz, 880.020 MHz, 891.510 MHz, 835.020 MHz, 880.020 MHz, 835.020 MHz, 846.510 MHz
    Grant Date: 11/06/2007
    Certifier: David C Jatlow
    Registrant: At&t Mobility LLC, 5601 Legacy Drive Ms A-3, Plano, TX 75024, Phone: (469) 229-7422, Fax: (469) 229-72972

    Park Road (Lat: 33.620111 Lon: -85.872750)
    Call Sign: KNKA575
    880.020 MHz, 891.510 MHz, 835.020 MHz, 880.020 MHz, 835.020 MHz, 846.510 MHz, 880.020 MHz, 891.510 MHz, 835.020 MHz, 880.020 MHz, 835.020 MHz, 846.510 MHz
    Grant Date: 11/06/2007
    Certifier: David C Jatlow
    Registrant: At&t Mobility LLC, 5601 Legacy Drive Ms A-3, Plano, TX 75024, Phone: (469) 229-7422, Fax: (469) 229-7297

    Again, if your friend's VZW service is subpar in the area, it would have to be a device issue. There is 800MHz GSM presence through AT&T & 800MHz CDMA presence through VZW. There is no 1900MHz Sprint service listed, so Sprint customers would be roaming using the 800MHz capability of their phones. The odds of Sprint customers roaming on a non-native system, having better coverage than a customer on the native network, are slim and none. Unless, of course, there is something wrong with the phone.

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    Ya why dont you actually look at a map and see how large and where the actual base is inside Fort McClellan before you tell me where irrelevant towers are in respect to me..
    I hope Numus's foot was clean before Twin just shoved it in his mouth.

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    Wow you are an ***** consider twin proved absolutely nothing other then he can generalize where towers are in an area.. considering you can get all the same information pretty much here Cell Phone Towers - Mobiledia and since none of you can actually look at a map of a location with respects to different locations..
    It bothers me when people do a one-on-one comparison between their service & a friend's, especially since we're expected to take it at face value without any proof or validation.
    sorry my proof and validation is actually having both devices in my hand.. not looking at maps... but i guess that doesn't really tell much huh
    Last edited by numus; 05-12-09 at 08:34 PM.
    05-12-09 08:31 PM
  17. TwinsX2Dad's Avatar
    Wow you are an ***** consider twin proved absolutely nothing other then he can generalize where towers are in an area.. considering you can get all the same information pretty much here Cell Phone Towers - Mobiledia and since none of you can actually look at a map of a location with respects to different locations..
    Maybe you get your info from Mobiledia, but I don't. Mine comes right from my database, which picks up info from FCC and carrier databases. More than just location, I can determine the power & load of a tower.

    Mobiledia's list is derived solely from basic FCC data - some of it is outdated and much is incomplete. Only about 60% of tower locations are registered with the FCC. I was able to check my database & determine that the only operable towers in that area are operated by VZW & AT&T, plus some for government emergency use. I can pull a spreadsheet with the locations of every Sprint tower in the country, plus the towers that Sprint customers can roam on - I can create my own PRLs, if you will - as can any major tower/fiber contactor in the country.

    Your hand in hand comparison fails the main performance truth test - that your devices must be calibrated identically. This was a big flaw in Gizmodo's recent 'test' as well - it was not a test that used equal-calibration devices and failed random sampling guidelines. Were the devices you witnessed calibrated exactly? Was one device ever subjected to shock, charging-source power fluctuations or high-moisture/humidity? Were they using different operating system versions? Were they manufactured in different lots, possibly one in Mexico & one in Canada? Is there any possibility one device may not be performing at the top of the QA testing sample while the other was at the bottom? Was the free memory, installed or operating software different? Did they have different PRL files? Were the cached Internet/cookie files different? If your answer to any of these is yes, then your 'test' has the validity of flying pigs. Throw in expensive device calibrations, random manufacturing variations (as much as 25% tolerance from phone to phone) and a lack of random sampling and you can see where I am heading with this.


    I do this for a living, while many here wonder how to pay for their phone even with carrier subsidies.

    And, after all of this, the question still wasn't answered: How could a Sprint phone, optimized for 1900MHz PCS, outperform a Verizon phone, optimized for 800MHz CDMA on the Verizon 800MHz network? If the devices were identical, the answer is, it can't.

    First, learn how to test before you spout your 'test' results. Gizmodo is the laughing stock of the carrier/communications world because they couldn't get it right - and Sprint commissioned that test. Within the industry, we think Sprint told Gizmodo where to test & even supplied the equipment - not the makings of a credible test, if you ask me. Think you'll get accurate results when Gizmodo fouled up so badly?

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    05-12-09 09:35 PM
  18. DesertDogs's Avatar
    I will find a pic of it - but we should get back to being sick of Verizon before the thread is closed.
    Well since he forgot before they turned out the lights, here it is:



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    05-13-09 12:24 AM
  19. Lowsol94's Avatar
    Sorry to jack this thread but twins if you happen to read this I need your valuable knowledge on a tower near me if possible. I know at&t had the first band of antennas on it but there is a second band put up recently. I was wondering if u could easily find out which company that new band belongs to. Its not just for curiosity its for a business decision. thanks in advance.
    05-14-09 09:44 AM
  20. ennTOXX's Avatar
    Ok....this probly has been talked about before but I switched to verizon in december and their rates are astronomical...I mean they have great service and whatnot but between access rates..dropping new every 2...money is the name of the game but my gosh......

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    i recently left Verizon Wireless and went to T-Mobile and got on a family plan with them.
    I am now saving about $70 a month compared to Verizon Wireless for the same amount of everything on my berry. plus T-Mobile let's me tether, but to be honest, with the savings i could purchase a usb wireless netcard.
    i notice the signal is not as strong and the network is not as fast.
    so maybe, you get what you pay for comes into play here, but honestly, i was with Verizon Wireless for about 7 years and now wonder what took me so long to leave a HIGH priced CDMA provider.

    there are so many pluses for being on a GSM provider and luckily i have the coverage between them all to chose between the two types of wireless networks in my area here in the greater los angeles, ca area.
    if i traveled outside of my metro area more often than i actually do, i would probably stay with Verizon Wireless due to some patchy coverage when outside of my metro area. and when i say outside, i mean way outside, like the sticks.
    since i don't, T-Mobile and the extra $70 a month savings is perfect.

    imagine, 7 years = 84 months x $70 = $5,880. now that's amazing.
    even if the pricing has changed over time or maybe the fact that i haven't been on a blackberry with Verizon Wireless for that long, i easily could have been and there are many people out there that do not have the option of going to another carrier for service.

    i look forward to being able to pop in a sim card when i travel with my berry and not have to buy a temp phone while i'm there.

    my $0.02, for what it's worth.
    05-24-09 10:50 AM
  21. gotblackberry's Avatar
    Verizon has phones with Sim Cards.
    05-24-09 03:27 PM
  22. gotblackberry's Avatar
    Well since he forgot before they turned out the lights, here it is:



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    ooooh that looks nice but for $75 no thanks.
    05-24-09 03:27 PM
  23. uknow85's Avatar
    yes i am, i've had my blackberry storm and i am kinda tired of it. And i am sure the blackberry storm 2 is nothing more but the the 1st one without click touch and a newer os maybe..
    05-24-09 03:29 PM
  24. RicanMedic78's Avatar
    i think it might just have all the tiny fixes that would of made the storm 1 a really nice device.... especially in respect to apple
    Last edited by RicanMedic78; 05-25-09 at 03:29 PM.
    05-25-09 03:27 PM
  25. Apol10's Avatar
    Give me a break ! VZW is the only carrier here in central Illinois. They simply WORK! And really, that's what you have a phone for. We are not too 'hooked' as wife and I each have 8330's so 'yeah its expensive' but its worth it.
    05-25-09 03:38 PM
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