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  1. MADBRADNYC's Avatar
    That was on ATT buddy.

    Poetry in Motion
    That's fine with me. I was asking about T-Mobile though. I like to learn.

    Posted via CB10
    09-24-14 02:21 PM
  2. raino's Avatar
    Some guess it was originally designed with TMO in mind, before the spat.
    The 100-5 was designed for Canada, the -1 for the US. It just so happens that TMO uses a lot of the same bands as Canadian carriers that the differences don't stick out...like the lack of LTE band 17 does for AT&T users.

    Before today's news of the AT&T exclusive, you could have argued that this Passport wasn't necessarily designed for AT&T either--which still may be the case. Now that band 17 is being used in Canada, there's no uniqueness to it. The only BB10 phones that have to be specifically designed are the CDMA phones...which might kinda explain why we haven't seen a lot of them relative to the GSM variants.
    09-24-14 03:27 PM
  3. scrannel's Avatar
    Confused: the 100-1 is more compatible w/TMO than the 100-5?
    09-24-14 03:34 PM
  4. raino's Avatar
    Confused: the 100-1 is more compatible w/TMO than the 100-5?
    Technically, yes. Maybe already, definitely in the long term. TMO is refarming its GSM 1900 spectrum to LTE. IDK what the current status of this project is right now (as in if any b2 sites are active already,) but their self-set goal is end of 2015. The 100-5 does not have LTE band 2 (1900 MHz,) the -1 does.

    Also if you look at TMO branded BB10 phones (Z10 RFK121LW and the Q10 -5,) they both had the LTE band 2 as well.
    scrannel likes this.
    09-24-14 04:16 PM
  5. scrannel's Avatar
    So, does it work as well on at&t?
    09-24-14 06:07 PM
  6. raino's Avatar
    So, does it work as well on at&t?
    The -1? Yeah. It's basically spec'd like a Z10 -3 or a Q10 -5. The Z30 STA100-5 isn't that good for AT&T because it's missing that LTE band 17 they use.
    09-24-14 07:26 PM
  7. MADBRADNYC's Avatar
    Well, that settles it for me. Whenever I'm ready for a new device, I will just pay raino a service fee to purchase what I need. Can't go wrong with that!

    Posted via CB10
    raino and anon(8908445) like this.
    09-24-14 07:41 PM
  8. raino's Avatar
    Well, that settles it for me. Whenever I'm ready for a new device, I will just pay raino a service fee to purchase what I need. Can't go wrong with that!
    Now that sounds like a plan. I'll get started on my "Boot John Legere" "Buy T-Mobile for the people" campaign. We only need like $35-40 per share
    MADBRADNYC likes this.
    09-24-14 09:20 PM
  9. BBRYed's Avatar
    The 100-5 was designed for Canada, the -1 for the US. It just so happens that TMO uses a lot of the same bands as Canadian carriers that the differences don't stick out...like the lack of LTE band 17 does for AT&T users.

    Before today's news of the AT&T exclusive, you could have argued that this Passport wasn't necessarily designed for AT&T either--which still may be the case. Now that band 17 is being used in Canada, there's no uniqueness to it. The only BB10 phones that have to be specifically designed are the CDMA phones...which might kinda explain why we haven't seen a lot of them relative to the GSM variants.
    The 100-1 was designed only for ATT full compatible. 100-5 designed for Canadian carriers and happens to be fully compatible with T-Mobile in the US.

    100-1 couple were made but never sold.

    Poetry in Motion
    09-24-14 10:19 PM
  10. BBRYed's Avatar
    Confused: the 100-1 is more compatible w/TMO than the 100-5?
    No it's not. 100-5 only.

    Poetry in Motion
    09-24-14 10:19 PM
  11. raino's Avatar
    No it's not. 100-5 only.
    The 100-1 is more compatible. LTE 2, 4, 5, 17 UMTS 6/5, 4, 2, 1. You're right it wasn't sold commercially (aside from the few private sales where BB employees sold them to individual buyers,) but that doesn't change the fact it has more current and future TMO bands (4) than the -5 (3.)
    09-24-14 10:53 PM
  12. BBRYed's Avatar
    Passport has arrived!

    Poetry in Motion
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    09-25-14 09:44 AM
  13. lactose's Avatar
    I guess this compatibility thing gets complicated if you want to take into account the area in which you live, and how the re-farming is going etc. I am really hoping, when the Classic comes out, raino will suggest the right model for T-Mobile. I will be happy to thank him via paypal.
    MADBRADNYC likes this.
    09-25-14 12:46 PM
  14. pvphooman's Avatar
    Can someone answer this:
    If I buy a Passport from Amazon or Shop BlackBerry, would it be fully compatible with T-Mobile (except WFC of course)?
    And is there a special variation that would work better?

    Z10STL100-3/10.3.0.1154 CB10
    09-25-14 01:59 PM
  15. MADBRADNYC's Avatar
    Can someone answer this:
    If I buy a Passport from Amazon or Shop BlackBerry, would it be fully compatible with T-Mobile (except WFC of course)?
    And is there a special variation that would work better?

    Z10STL100-3/10.3.0.1154 CB10
    I believe these questions were asked and answered several times here only a few posts above. Just read the thread.

    Posted via CB10
    09-25-14 02:42 PM
  16. MADBRADNYC's Avatar
    I guess this compatibility thing gets complicated if you want to take into account the area in which you live, and how the re-farming is going etc. I am really hoping, when the Classic comes out, raino will suggest the right model for T-Mobile. I will be happy to thank him via paypal.
    What kind of i-Move is that?
    I bet you will claim to have invented that?
    Get your own mobile frequency band guru!

    LoL. I'm just kidding...

    Posted via CB10
    09-26-14 06:01 PM
  17. BBRYed's Avatar
    Can someone answer this:
    If I buy a Passport from Amazon or Shop BlackBerry, would it be fully compatible with T-Mobile (except WFC of course)?
    And is there a special variation that would work better?

    Z10STL100-3/10.3.0.1154 CB10
    Yes.

    Poetry in Motion
    09-27-14 09:47 AM
  18. BBRYed's Avatar
    FYI, Passport requires a nano SIM card, not a micro SIM in Z30 and Z10.

    Poetry in Motion
    09-27-14 09:51 AM
  19. alternator77's Avatar
    Iirc you can trim an existing card to fit the nanosim. Slot.

    "I love when people boast about their phones...like its a pissing contest"
    quemo likes this.
    10-02-14 08:32 AM
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