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- If it were out.... we'd have a thread on it already.
Think in general the Sept Patch was a little delayed... so still a good chance we will see it in the next week.
The real question is will 8.1 be updated by Google beyond October?09-22-21 09:03 AMLike 0 -
- The last 5 updates were certified prior to this date.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...3491377973.jpg
Many this little bonus ride is over.09-22-21 09:35 AMLike 0 - I still can't fathom who is picking up the tab for this.
A year of patches (no updates to OS itself), along with all of the certification and compliance issues, involving both BlackBerry and TCL's network distribution infrastructure, would cost (in my estimation) at least $300k - but probably more.09-22-21 09:50 AMLike 0 - I still can't fathom who is picking up the tab for this.
A year of patches (no updates to OS itself), along with all of the certification and compliance issues, involving both BlackBerry and TCL's network distribution infrastructure, would cost (in my estimation) at least $300k - but probably more.
Patches are probable just rubber stamped... it' only the security side not features so less likely to be issues.
And my guess is it got rolled up in TCL's defaulting on their contract with BlackBerry. Even if it did cost $300K, it might have been a cheap concession. But WHY.... I don't really know of any big clients using the KEY2 in NA... did someone in Canada "buy in"? US didn't even have a Carrier offering it.... and enterprise and government is big on carrier partnerships.09-22-21 10:02 AMLike 0 - Well the infrastructure was in place.....
Patches are probable just rubber stamped... it' only the security side not features so less likely to be issues.
And my guess is it got rolled up in TCL's defaulting on their contract with BlackBerry. Even if it did cost $300K, it might have been a cheap concession. But WHY.... I don't really know of any big clients using the KEY2 in NA... did someone in Canada "buy in"? US didn't even have a Carrier offering it.... and enterprise and government is big on carrier partnerships.
It is possible that a Canadian government organization or a bank up here had something to do with it. I just don't know.
But I certainly don't see a scenario where OM would be sending cheques to anyone - they can't even afford to hire their own staff full-time.09-22-21 10:11 AMLike 0 - As far as I know, I see lots of industry Canada inspectors/agents carrying key 2's and Classics and q10's.
Most of the younger dudes and gals have iPhones and other android slabs.
Are we at the three year mark from when the key2 was first available at robelus? (Rogers/Bell/Telus - Canadian carriers/cabal)09-22-21 11:09 AMLike 0 - Realistically how long of a runway would a KEY 2 have from a security perspective for someone who would only use very very limited app use. Email, Maps, GPS, maybe a streaming service and a sports and weather app?
I might need to find a few Key 2 from friends and than see long I will be able to use them in Canada.
Security is important to me but given my actual device use, it's not that I do a lot of security sensitive business on my device other than email and the items listed above.
Thx
Posted via CB1009-22-21 02:46 PMLike 0 - Realistically how long of a runway would a KEY 2 have from a security perspective for someone who would only use very very limited app use. Email, Maps, GPS, maybe a streaming service and a sports and weather app?
I might need to find a few Key 2 from friends and than see long I will be able to use them in Canada.
Security is important to me but given my actual device use, it's not that I do a lot of security sensitive business on my device other than email and the items listed above.
Thx
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It all depends what vulnerabilities are discovered over time.09-22-21 02:49 PMLike 0 - Realistically how long of a runway would a KEY 2 have from a security perspective for someone who would only use very very limited app use. Email, Maps, GPS, maybe a streaming service and a sports and weather app?
I might need to find a few Key 2 from friends and than see long I will be able to use them in Canada.
Security is important to me but given my actual device use, it's not that I do a lot of security sensitive business on my device other than email and the items listed above.
Thx
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All the enemies have to do is succeed once despite all the successful defenses.09-22-21 02:53 PMLike 0 -
Perhaps I'm a little confused. Say for example that the Key 2 gets security patches until the end of the year, would it be considered unsafe?
I'm confused about the 3 months aspect. Where does that come from? The fact that Android 8.1 may be obsolete soon?
Thanks
Posted via CB1009-22-21 02:54 PMLike 0 - Perhaps I'm a little confused. Say for example that the Key 2 gets security patches until the end of the year, would it be considered unsafe?
I'm confused about the 3 months aspect. Where does that come from? The fact that Android 8.1 may be obsolete soon?
Thanks
Posted via CB1009-22-21 02:56 PMLike 0 - Perhaps I'm a little confused. Say for example that the Key 2 gets security patches until the end of the year, would it be considered unsafe?
I'm confused about the 3 months aspect. Where does that come from? The fact that Android 8.1 may be obsolete soon?
Thanks
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Not having security patches makes it less safe.
Not running the latest OS makes it less safe as well.
Older hardware, generally has more known exploits.... remember Google only patch what they or another white hat researcher reports. Stuff that other "researchers" find, stays unpatched for a reason.
If you live week to week and have nothing of value.... not much of a risk using an old phone. You live on your phone and have money in banks, credit cards, investment accounts, bitcoin.... using a KEY2 is a HUGE risk.09-22-21 03:18 PMLike 0 - More like the KEY2 just got it's last update and by the end of the year it would be "considered" unsafe... I don't consider a device that using the latest OS with the latest security patches as being 100% safe.
Not having security patches makes it less safe.
Not running the latest OS makes it less safe as well.
Older hardware, generally has more known exploits.... remember Google only patch what they or another white hat researcher reports. Stuff that other "researchers" find, stays unpatched for a reason.
If you live week to week and have nothing of value.... not much of a risk using an old phone. You live on your phone and have money in banks, credit cards, investment accounts, bitcoin.... using a KEY2 is a HUGE risk.
Hopefully those bad actors will focus their resources on other more popular phones.
They key2 is not the Honda Civic or Ford F150 of phones.09-23-21 09:13 AMLike 0 - It's not focused by device. It's done by spamming phone numbers via phone calls and texts plus email addresses in general just looking to locate ANY un-patched devices.eshropshire likes this.09-23-21 09:17 AMLike 1
- I bought a like-new silver NA Key2 in November from one of those outfits that assembles phones from parts. I did so expecting no updates whatsoever. What a ride it's been! No way I could have predicted almost a year of updates. If August is the last one, so be it. Still love this phone. I plan to continue spending 0% of my life worrying about it getting compromised.Jesda likes this.09-23-21 02:24 PMLike 1
- I bought a like-new silver NA Key2 in November from one of those outfits that assembles phones from parts. I did so expecting no updates whatsoever. What a ride it's been! No way I could have predicted almost a year of updates. If August is the last one, so be it. Still love this phone. I plan to continue spending 0% of my life worrying about it getting compromised.
May the schwartz be with you...bibbula likes this.09-23-21 02:44 PMLike 1 - I bought a like-new silver NA Key2 in November from one of those outfits that assembles phones from parts. I did so expecting no updates whatsoever. What a ride it's been! No way I could have predicted almost a year of updates. If August is the last one, so be it. Still love this phone. I plan to continue spending 0% of my life worrying about it getting compromised.John Albert and RLeeSimon like this.09-23-21 02:46 PMLike 2
- If you gave me free cheesecake I'd be happy to get it, but I don't care if I don't.DOCTOREVIL8 and bibbula like this.09-23-21 03:40 PMLike 2
- still nothing.....two days left!
this might actually be the end.
I'm still trying to figure out if this month marks the end of 36 months since launch in Canada.09-29-21 08:53 AMLike 0 -
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So how much longer to use it..... ?09-29-21 10:14 AMLike 0 - I think the date of importance was TCL ended BBMo in August of last year... for some unknown reason they kept updates going for another 12 months. Maybe BlackBerry asked for it as a term of TCL ending their contract early? I doubt OM could have afforded that bill... But I don't think Google is far behind ending support of OREO anyway.
So how much longer to use it..... ?
Fingers and toes still crossed for an OM Blackberry.
Key2 is definitely slowing down now.
Hate waiting for Google maps to load etc
Onto a Nokia or Sony or Pixel .....09-29-21 07:19 PMLike 0
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