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  1. slagman5's Avatar
    Funny, since the Passport has generated more buzz in the media in the first 2 days than the first month after the Z10 or Z30 was announced...

    And I love all of the people who think every phone by every company should just jump on the all-touchscreen bandwagon just because that's the current "cool" thing. You want us all to be forced to wear uniforms and shave our heads so we're all exactly the same too??

    ?Posted without the aid of AutoCorrect with my physical keyboard via CB10?
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    06-22-14 12:35 PM
  2. stuart445's Avatar
    Did Chen mention anywhere that he has killed the full screen technology especially after just launching the z3.. ok now it the keyboard devices' turn for all the BB fans who really like the physical keyboard. I'm at a point where I'm going to upgrade to my next full screen BB10 device... I know it won't be this year, but I'm sure it's be early next year for the z30 successor.. seems there already one out there in the works (reference link below)
    BlackBerry Reportedly Showed Off New, Unannounced Devices At London Event
    I really REALLY hope that is correct, I want to stay with Blackberry as they have a certain professional look about them. My friends all have Samsung Galaxy range and they just feel like the they are made out of the plastic that Tonka toys are made from. Also the Android OS is just stupidly over complicated and isn't as simple to use as BB10 and don't get me started on Apple lol. But if that passport is the only other option I have no choice as it simply won't fit into any of my pockets.
    06-22-14 12:35 PM
  3. crazigee's Avatar
    John Chen is the right man at the right moment for BlackBerry. He is steering the company towards safer waters.
    I think it is way too soon to be saying that. Nothing he has done yet has had any changed anything. You could be right. He could be the right man. He could equally be the wrong man. We need to wait and see.

    Posted using my Z10 via CB10
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    06-22-14 12:35 PM
  4. BBjer's Avatar
    BlackBerry invested in NanHealth. You don't think they did research and asked Doctors and specialists what phone (shape) and functions they wanted?. It's so obvious this phone is Not aimed at high school kids. It's a niche phone for a niche market.

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    06-22-14 01:03 PM
  5. dvarnai's Avatar
    a high-end full touch device is also rumored for this year, codenamed manitoba iirc, so just switch to android or whatever you want but dont come up with false excuses
    06-22-14 01:07 PM
  6. stuart445's Avatar
    BlackBerry invested in NanHealth. You don't think they did research and asked Doctors and specialists what phone (shape) and functions they wanted?. It's so obvious this phone is Not aimed at high school kids. It's a niche phone for a niche market.

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    It's been a long time since I was a high school kid. As I said I really hope they really do have a Z30 upgrade coming as the Passport will not be the saviour of Blackberry
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    06-22-14 01:08 PM
  7. idon12no's Avatar
    I need a new phone because I don't trust my Z, which I like a lot, to randomly die on me again. My carrier does not carry the Z30, and I have no interest in a PKB phone, so BlackBerry ignoring full touch, or giving that impression at least, is going to push a lot of loyal customers away at the expense of the beloved corporate niche everyone keeps talking about.

    HTC cut the crap and went all in on a great phone, and no one is talking about how dead in the water they were a few years ago. BlackBerry should do the same, cut the crap and be awesome.

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    06-22-14 01:08 PM
  8. Atmarix's Avatar
    Just by reading the title I knew the OP was going to criticize the passport.

    My answer is: the passport is REVOLUTIONARY! No one else have made a phone like that ever. And that phone is targeted to a certain group, you're not included obviously (OP).
    And idk if you read that BlackBerry is focused on their enterprise customers not the end consumer, the passport is for us die hard berryheads.

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    06-22-14 01:09 PM
  9. stuart445's Avatar
    I need a new phone because I don't trust my Z, which I like a lot, to randomly die on me again. My carrier does not carry the Z30, and I have no interest in a PKB phone, so BlackBerry ignoring full touch, or giving that impression at least, is going to push a lot of loyal customers away at the expense of the beloved corporate niche everyone keeps talking about.

    HTC cut the crap and went all in on a great phone, and no one is talking about how dead in the water they were a few years ago. BlackBerry should do the same, cut the crap and be awesome.

    Posted via CB10
    Finally some sense. I don't want to go to Android but if Blackberry carry on like this they will force me that way, as sadly my Z30 won't live forever.
    06-22-14 01:11 PM
  10. stuart445's Avatar
    Just by reading the title I knew the OP was going to criticize the passport.

    My answer is: the passport is REVOLUTIONARY! No one else have made a phone like that ever. And that phone is targeted to a certain group, you're not included obviously (OP).
    And idk if you read that BlackBerry is focused on their enterprise customers not the end consumer, the passport is for us die hard berryheads.

    Posted via CB10
    For Blackberry to survive they are going to have to get people to buy it instead of others. No one created that design because no one wants it other than the people who are loyal to Blackberry. But that is the problem Blackberry aren't surviving with just the current loyal customers they need new and that won't happen with this. People will buy what is good looking and that is ugly
    06-22-14 01:23 PM
  11. collinc93's Avatar
    What is he playing at with the Passport, He is not a stupid man he is surely a highly intelligent man. But this new device will be the device that finally kills Blackberry. In technology you HAVE to keep moving forward if you stand still and you will be left behind. But if you do what Blackberry are doing and go backwards you go down a route you will not return from. Physical keyboard are a thing of the past there is a reason why the likes of Samsung and Apple don't use them, you won't see them bringing out a physical keyboard phone as there is only a very small amount of people want them hence why Blackberry has fallen so far behind them. It's easy the Z30 is an awesome phone all they need to do is bring out a updated version of it with the specs that can compete.

    It's a sad day as I love using my Z30 and it seems as if it's going to be my last Blackberry I own as when it eventually dies of old age I will be forced to by an Android phone it's a real shame really Blackberry had a really good platform to build on with the Z30 but have decided to turn the complete wrong way. Sometimes different isn't always a good thing, Sometimes things like the Passport haven't been done because there isn't a market for them. If this was brought out when Blackberry first went to do touchscreens then it might have worked as it would be a progression towards touchscreen but to do it now is illogical and a daft thing to do.

    R.I.P Blackberry :-(

    Stuart
    ...it has the usual "this is my last BlackBerry and I will be now forced to buy (insert phone brand here)"? ..checking..yup. Well good luck and farewell.....next thread please!
    06-22-14 01:26 PM
  12. collinc93's Avatar
    I think it is way too soon to be saying that. Nothing he has done yet has had any changed anything. You could be right. He could be the right man. He could equally be the wrong man. We need to wait and see.

    Posted using my Z10 via CB10
    ....so the slowing of the bleeding money means he has done nothing? I hope you dont run a business--a large corporation I mean..
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    06-22-14 01:31 PM
  13. stuart445's Avatar
    ...it has the usual "this is my last BlackBerry and I will be now forced to buy (insert phone brand here)"? ..checking..yup. Well good luck and farewell.....next thread please!
    You do understand for Blackberry to survive they have to attract new customers and keep existing ones?

    I'm hoping this Manitoba rumour is true but I'm not holding my breathe.
    06-22-14 01:32 PM
  14. crazigee's Avatar
    ....so the slowing of the bleeding money means he has done nothing? I hope you dont run a business--a large corporation I mean..
    Slowing the bleeding isn't enough.

    Posted using my Z10 via CB10
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    06-22-14 01:38 PM
  15. Nemzy's Avatar
    I need a new phone because I don't trust my Z, which I like a lot, to randomly die on me again. My carrier does not carry the Z30, and I have no interest in a PKB phone, so BlackBerry ignoring full touch, or giving that impression at least, is going to push a lot of loyal customers away at the expense of the beloved corporate niche everyone keeps talking about.

    HTC cut the crap and went all in on a great phone, and no one is talking about how dead in the water they were a few years ago. BlackBerry should do the same, cut the crap and be awesome.

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    You stated that your carrier doesn't carry the Z30 as your reason for not getting one, so what makes you think that if BlackBerry released a new all touch that your carrier will carry it?

    Slowing the bleeding isn't enough.

    Posted using my Z10 via CB10
    Slowing the bleeding isn't enough? Wow. Do you know the state BlackBerry has been in? and you think that slowing the bleeding is not enough. I don't know what it takes to please some people.
    06-22-14 01:45 PM
  16. Gykesdollars's Avatar
    BlackBerry aren't going to be creating devices based on some hunch, foolish whim or an itch under the armpit. The Passport serves a niche purpose and a niche target. People are getting their knickers in a twist for nothing. So everybody needs to sit back and take a deep breath. John Chen is the right man at the right moment for BlackBerry. He is steering the company towards safer waters.
    Aye aye matey!!!

    Z10STL100-1/10.3.0.442:296"the iPhone Nemesis"
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    06-22-14 01:47 PM
  17. stuart445's Avatar
    You stated that your carrier doesn't carry the Z30 as your reason for not getting one, so what makes you think that if BlackBerry released a new all touch that your carrier will carry it?



    Slowing the bleeding isn't enough? Wow. Do you know the state BlackBerry has been in? and you think that slowing the bleeding is not enough. I don't know what it takes to please some people.
    Nemzy has a point, my carrier (EE UK) doesn't carry the Z30 either which is why I had to buy the Z30 unlocked. It was expensive to do it but I don't regret it one bit the Z30 is just that good. If the rumoured Manitoba is released and is a true upgrade on the Z30 i.e. full touch screen I will do the same thing if my carrier doesn't carry it. But I won't be doing that for the passport.
    06-22-14 01:59 PM
  18. dbmalloy's Avatar
    BB just cannot seem to win... people complain that there is no innovation.. especially from BB.. so BB creates a keyboard smartphone with a 1-1 ratio ... Largest display ever to a phone.... new typing keyboard.. and new OS..... according to the OP they are going backwards... how... Chen has made it crystal clear BB focus is enterpirse for now... not consumer... not meaning something is not coming down the pipe for them.... If keyboards are not your thing... fine.. but why put down what is being done... it is this thinking along with managements bungling that almost did BB in... in the first place....
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    06-22-14 02:01 PM
  19. Nemzy's Avatar
    OP and some others are trying to suggest that there is no point making physical Keyboard devices because it is the "past". If that was really the case then why was there such a hype over the typo keyboards for iPhones? I understand you don't want one but that is how you feel, and how you feel does not represent the market. Before BB10, more than 90% of BlackBerry's user base was physical keyboard. After BB10 majority of the BlackBerry user base is still physical keyboard because a lot of people on OS7 devices did not upgrade so it is very short sighted to claim that keyboards are the past. You are somehow suggesting that BlackBerry have been unsuccessful because they made physical keyboard devices. If the passport is not the device for you then take a pass on it. People have raised up valid points about the Nanthealth investment. BlackBerry is still making Full touch devices. The Z30 is not even up to a year old so its not like there is no choice. Just don't assume that because you don't like a device, that the market wouldn't.
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    06-22-14 02:04 PM
  20. stuart445's Avatar
    BB just cannot seem to win... people complain that there is no innovation.. especially from BB.. so BB creates a keyboard smartphone with a 1-1 ratio ... Largest display ever to a phone.... new typing keyboard.. and new OS..... according to the OP they are going backwards... how... Chen has made it crystal clear BB focus is enterpirse for now... not consumer... not meaning something is not coming down the pipe for them.... If keyboards are not your thing... fine.. but why put down what is being done... it is this thinking along with managements bungling that almost did BB in... in the first place....
    Simple really Physical Keyboards are backwards thinking. Successful makers aren't creating them, there is only one that is and that one has the biggest debt and the smallest market share, surely that is a sign.
    06-22-14 02:06 PM
  21. stuart445's Avatar
    OP and some others are trying to suggest that there is no point making physical Keyboard devices because it is the "past". If that was really the case then why was there such a hype over the typo keyboards for iPhones? I understand you don't want one but that is how you feel, and how you feel does not represent the market. Before BB10, more than 90% of BlackBerry's user base was physical keyboard. After BB10 majority of the BlackBerry user base is still physical keyboard because a lot of people on OS7 devices did not upgrade so it is very short sighted to claim that keyboards are the past. You are somehow suggesting that BlackBerry have been unsuccessful because they made physical keyboard devices. If the passport is not the device for you then take a pass on it. People have raised up valid points about the Nanthealth investment. BlackBerry is still making all Full touch devices. The Z30 is not even up to a year old so its not like there is no choice. Just don't assume that because you don't like a device, that the market wouldn't.
    I'm not saying not create phones with a physical keyboard altogether, they are bringing out the Classic that is all that is needed, One Physical Keyboard device, one low end touch screen and one high end touch screen. That they covers all bases.

    I won't assume that just because I don't like it the market wouldn't. I'll let the fact that Blackberry have the smallest market share show that.
    06-22-14 02:09 PM
  22. newfie1974's Avatar
    I think i'm going to buy one just because some people hate it... i'm like that. lol
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    06-22-14 02:21 PM
  23. dvarnai's Avatar
    right, because others made qwerty phones before....oh wait, no they didnt.
    06-22-14 02:30 PM
  24. stuart445's Avatar
    right, because others made qwerty phones before....oh wait, no they didnt.
    You're right I've never seen Samsung, Nokia and Sony make a qwerty phones oh wait yes I have
    06-22-14 02:40 PM
  25. lionheartsimon's Avatar
    I see people in this forum complaining about the fact that John Chen is returning to what made BlackBerry famous in the first place and that is the physical keyboard. The reason why BlackBerry went down so much wasn't because people grew tired of physical keyboard, it's because people grew tired of handsets not being able to work as well as iPhone or Android, plain and simple !! But what didn't helped is the fact that BlackBerry went too drastic in the transition from BBOS to BB10. No toolbelt, drastic changes in usability, I mean the faithfulls preferred going back to their curves and Bold instead of using Q10 but they still used keyboard. If the specs are anything close to the rumors and with the return of the belt on the classic I think Chen is on to something.

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    Last edited by lionheartsimon; 06-23-14 at 08:46 AM.
    06-22-14 02:51 PM
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