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  1. Bbnivende's Avatar
    Most of the people I know who still have 9900's and Curves is that they're comfortable with that OS, they don't consume media on their phones so they don't see a need for it. They simply use their Berry's for email, phone and calendar and its simple to use.

    Not saying BB10 isn't easy to use. And with the Classic most of the operations feel the same as BBOS and they SEE that but they don't see the need for all the extra goodies. Granted many of them are in 40-50's professionals so surfing on CB or playing Clash of Clans or checking out kiddie porn on SnapChat isn't high up on their list so they'll stay with the old until it doesn't work....after that most say who knows.





    Posted via CB10 on the President Underwood version of the BlackBerry Classic
    I agree with you about being satisfied with limited capabilities of legacy devices. I am not sure that many Professionals are on BBOS devices any more though.

    The Q10 with a trackpad would make a great 9900 replacenent.
    Could even be pure BB10 if and when there is no run time.

    Posted via CB10
    08-09-15 09:46 PM
  2. Uzi's Avatar
    ''''''''

    PassportSQW100-1/10.3.2.2339 ftw!!
    08-09-15 09:49 PM
  3. eyhab27's Avatar
    What was that bump about Usman... Did you see this device as well? Ha.

    Posted via CB10
    08-09-15 11:50 PM
  4. TheBirdDog's Avatar
    Um..."Lollipop" has two L's.
    How many 'A's does "Are you sure about that?" have in it?
    gebco and lift like this.
    08-10-15 12:53 AM
  5. TheBirdDog's Avatar
    Most of the people I know who still have 9900's and Curves is that they're comfortable with that OS, they don't consume media on their phones so they don't see a need for it. They simply use their Berry's for email, phone and calendar and its simple to use.

    Not saying BB10 isn't easy to use. And with the Classic most of the operations feel the same as BBOS and they SEE that but they don't see the need for all the extra goodies. Granted many of them are in 40-50's professionals so surfing on CB or playing Clash of Clans or checking out kiddie porn on SnapChat isn't high up on their list so they'll stay with the old until it doesn't work....after that most say who knows.





    Posted via CB10 on the President Underwood version of the BlackBerry Classic
    I tried to go back to my old Torch device to get fully immersed in the 'Slider' spirit. The ONE function that we have on BB10 that I don't believe existed on legacy devices and I could not give up for anything is: REMOTE SEARCH in emails. I don't have all of my emails filed (which I know I should consider doing) and often have to dig up an old email. Running this search from my Passport is THE most efficient way to do this. It's faster than Outlook on my PC.

    If you show the people you know who are still using legacy devices, perhaps that could get them to switch. Unless someone can show me how to perform this on my old Torch, then perhaps you could get me to switch back to it.
    08-10-15 12:59 AM
  6. extisis's Avatar
    I tried to go back to my old Torch device to get fully immersed in the 'Slider' spirit. The ONE function that we have on BB10 that I don't believe existed on legacy devices and I could not give up for anything is: REMOTE SEARCH in emails. I don't have all of my emails filed (which I know I should consider doing) and often have to dig up an old email. Running this search from my Passport is THE most efficient way to do this. It's faster than Outlook on my PC.

    If you show the people you know who are still using legacy devices, perhaps that could get them to switch. Unless someone can show me how to perform this on my old Torch, then perhaps you could get me to switch back to it.
    Funny.. I thought this was possible on the legacy devices. I'm pretty sure I was doing this on my torch and torch2. Could be wrong. 'Twas a while ago.

    Posted via CB10
    08-10-15 10:16 AM
  7. Burton79's Avatar
    Did your contact by chance mention if the pkb was touch sensitive? I enjoyed the old four row but love the passport scrolling option.

    Posted via CB10
    08-10-15 11:10 AM
  8. gebco's Avatar
    Funny.. I thought this was possible on the legacy devices. I'm pretty sure I was doing this on my torch and torch2. Could be wrong. 'Twas a while ago.

    Posted via CB10
    Me too. I thought I was able to do it on BBOS 5.

    Posted via CB10
    08-10-15 12:22 PM
  9. TheBirdDog's Avatar
    Me too. I thought I was able to do it on BBOS 5.

    Posted via CB10
    I confess that I didn't try for THAT long to figure it out. But after a few minutes of searching for the feature, I couldn't find it. Perhaps it can only search for emails that were received on the device but can't sync backwards?

    I don't know... but the new Torch will be here soon enough. Let the leaked photos and videos begin!
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    08-10-15 12:29 PM
  10. extisis's Avatar
    Did your contact by chance mention if the pkb was touch sensitive? I enjoyed the old four row but love the passport scrolling option.

    Posted via CB10
    it is. like the PP.
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    08-10-15 01:12 PM
  11. grahamf's Avatar
    I tried to go back to my old Torch device to get fully immersed in the 'Slider' spirit. The ONE function that we have on BB10 that I don't believe existed on legacy devices and I could not give up for anything is: REMOTE SEARCH in emails. I don't have all of my emails filed (which I know I should consider doing) and often have to dig up an old email. Running this search from my Passport is THE most efficient way to do this. It's faster than Outlook on my PC.

    If you show the people you know who are still using legacy devices, perhaps that could get them to switch. Unless someone can show me how to perform this on my old Torch, then perhaps you could get me to switch back to it.
    It doesn't seem to work well for finding emails filed away in outlook.com folders.
    08-10-15 03:10 PM
  12. Empyrean's Avatar
    And the $500ish Passport sold like hotcakes, right?

    Posted from an ME173X
    If I had to compare the Passport sales to breakfast carbs, it'd be more like it sold like crpes -- people either loved it or hated it, but everyone's intrigued by it.

    Posted via CB10
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    08-10-15 07:58 PM
  13. leglace1's Avatar
    When it comes to the slider, shouldn't we be talking about how silly it would be to use the physical keysboard? It's just a gimmick. Save some money and just make a touch device.

    BB10 is the slickest UI imo. It is my favorite as well. Android has widgets but other than that, it does not flow like a blackberry. All we are after is the Google Play Store. However, if they can keep BlackBerry 10 on the device, add a secured Android over it, utilize the gestures and hub, we win imo. But we don't know if that will be the case. We should not comment until we do know.

    Posted via CB10
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    08-10-15 09:05 PM
  14. MO3iusONE's Avatar
    When it comes to the slider, shouldn't we be talking about how silly it would be to use the physical keysboard? It's just a gimmick. Save some money and just make a touch device.

    BB10 is the slickest UI imo. It is my favorite as well. Android has widgets but other than that, it does not flow like a blackberry. All we are after is the Google Play Store. However, if they can keep BlackBerry 10 on the device, add a secured Android over it, utilize the gestures and hub, we win imo. But we don't know if that will be the case. We should not comment until we do know.

    Posted via CB10
    How is it a gimmick?

    I use to own a Dell Venue Pro, it was a slider, looked very similar to the blackberry slider. You could use the onscreen keyboard or physical keyboard.

    If I had to Google something real quick or respond to a text real quick, I'd use to onscreen keyboard.

    If I had to reply with a lengthy message, I'd use the physical keyboard. I'm hoping the blackberry slider works in a similar way.

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N910A using Tapatalk
    08-11-15 02:50 AM
  15. sayf777's Avatar
    I know it's unlikely bit does anyone know if there's a removable battery? Or at least an sd card slot?


    Posted via CB10
    08-11-15 06:16 AM
  16. Robin Borodin's Avatar
    Time, resources, talent, market....

    Does Hypervisor even exist yet?
    How long would it take to build an OS based on AOSP? Took three years with QNX....
    How long will Google allow access to their ecosystem? Hard to base your business on something out of your control.
    Where is Samsung selling Tizen devices? In markets where apps aren't a big thing.
    It does! They wouldn't need to build the guest OS (AOSP) as it's already out there and they wouldn't need Google to give them the thumbs up to access their ecosystem either since people could just install it themselves in the way they do with Xiaomi phones. AOSP is free for anyone to use, no need to consult with Google.

    All BlackBerry would need to do is bake the hypervisor into BB10 and a few tweaks for interaction between the guest AOSP system and the host BB10 system.

    They can go further by themeing the AOSP side to match that of the BB10 side. It's definitely possible. I've themed my Android device to look like BB10 back before I bought a Z10

    Posted via CB10
    08-11-15 07:30 AM
  17. Soulstream's Avatar
    It does! They wouldn't need to build the guest OS (AOSP) as it's already out there and they wouldn't need Google to give them the thumbs up to access their ecosystem either since people could just install it themselves in the way they do with Xiaomi phones. AOSP is free for anyone to use, no need to consult with Google.

    All BlackBerry would need to do is bake the hypervisor into BB10 and a few tweaks for interaction between the guest AOSP system and the host BB10 system.

    They can go further by themeing the AOSP side to match that of the BB10 side. It's definitely possible. I've themed my Android device to look like BB10 back before I bought a Z10

    Posted via CB10
    Of course they could, but normal consumers wouldn't even bother with sideloading google play services. How is that consumer friendly?
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    08-11-15 08:04 AM
  18. kdklein's Avatar
    USD$500~ish?
    Dudes... it's going to sell... slow.
    $500 off contract is nor even close to expensive. Plus he just said the guy was guessing.

    Posted via CB10
    08-11-15 08:32 AM
  19. Burton79's Avatar
    it is. like the PP.
    Thats good news for me. Thanks for the reply.

    Posted via CB10
    08-11-15 09:39 AM
  20. grahamf's Avatar
    It does! They wouldn't need to build the guest OS (AOSP) as it's already out there and they wouldn't need Google to give them the thumbs up to access their ecosystem either since people could just install it themselves in the way they do with Xiaomi phones. AOSP is free for anyone to use, no need to consult with Google.

    All BlackBerry would need to do is bake the hypervisor into BB10 and a few tweaks for interaction between the guest AOSP system and the host BB10 system.

    They can go further by themeing the AOSP side to match that of the BB10 side. It's definitely possible. I've themed my Android device to look like BB10 back before I bought a Z10

    Posted via CB10
    You'd get a pretty bad performance hit from running two full OSs, and it would take a lot more than "a few tweaks" to get the two OSs running seamlessly. You're better off upgrading BB10's Android runtime to 5.0 or whatever the latest version is.
    08-11-15 09:50 AM
  21. leglace1's Avatar
    How is it a gimmick?

    I use to own a Dell Venue Pro, it was a slider, looked very similar to the blackberry slider. You could use the onscreen keyboard or physical keyboard.

    If I had to Google something real quick or respond to a text real quick, I'd use to onscreen keyboard.

    If I had to reply with a lengthy message, I'd use the physical keyboard. I'm hoping the blackberry slider works in a similar way.

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N910A using Tapatalk
    I enjoyed the Torch slider. But this is a different form factor because the device is so long. I can't imagine that being cmfortable. I imagine the device wanting to tilt forward.

    Posted via CB10
    08-11-15 09:50 AM
  22. Bbnivende's Avatar
    I enjoyed the Torch slider. But this is a different form factor because the device is so long. I can't imagine that being cmfortable. I imagine the device wanting to tilt forward.

    Posted via CB10
    It will not tip. The weight will be balanced by component placement in the body. The protruding screen element will be thin and light.

    Posted via CB10
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    08-11-15 09:53 AM
  23. extisis's Avatar
    It will not tip. The weight will be balanced by component placement in the body. The protruding screen element will be thin and light.

    Posted via CB10
    it might bend though...
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    08-11-15 10:25 AM
  24. Bbnivende's Avatar
    it might bend though...
    I guess if you sit on it with the screen extended or drop it with the screen extended you are going to damage this phone. The slider is like the Edge but the screen slides up to reveal the PKB.

    I do not expect this phone to bend any more than any other phone when the screen is down. I would use a case.

    I wonder how the screen slides up. Watching the MWC vvideo it almost seems spring loaded. Maybe no upwards gestures ??
    Last edited by Bbnivende; 08-11-15 at 01:38 PM.
    08-11-15 11:51 AM
  25. Robin Borodin's Avatar
    You'd get a pretty bad performance hit from running two full OSs, and it would take a lot more than "a few tweaks" to get the two OSs running seamlessly. You're better off upgrading BB10's Android runtime to 5.0 or whatever the latest version is.
    Apparently the hypervisor performs about 90%+ as well as real hardware so it's not that much of a penalty if the hardware is good enough

    Posted via CB10
    08-15-15 01:49 PM
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