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  1. CTU2fan's Avatar
    It was too expensive and reviewers bashed the screen size too. Phones with 1080 screens were the same price. Lack of Play Services didn't help, but it hasn't hurt Kindle sales too much.

    Posted via Z30
    Eh that's true about the Kindle Fire, though I haven't looked at the numbers lately. But the Fire was relatively cheap; the Fire Phone isn't.

    But yes it was under-sped'd for sure too, and with Android it's always a specs measuring contest.

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    07-30-15 04:40 PM
  2. anon8898370's Avatar
    I believe you Silverthread. I did a lot of high level software sales to BlackBerry in Ottawa, KW, Toronto and in San Francisco. I saw all the BlackBerry 10 devices months prior to release. They just never told you name of it or really let you play with it. It just takes one insider that trusts you. Sadly BlackBerry is no longer my account since 5 months ago so I have no inside on the slider. I can tell you though that the CIO fought hard to have Android on BlackBerry devices years ago especially when iPhone came out. . Most of BlackBerrys 10 OS is made up of Open Source companies along QNX as it's base.
    BlackBerry is all about forking Open Source where it can because they think they can do it themselves. Maybe this finally got approved to try Android OS on a secured device. They have secured Android FYI , 2 years ago. Problem is will Google let them use Play Store / Services for strictly consumer devices.

    BlackBerry10 w / Google Play Services please
    07-31-15 04:42 PM
  3. BB fan forever's Avatar
    I believe you Silverthread. I did a lot of high level software sales to BlackBerry in Ottawa, KW, Toronto and in San Francisco. I saw all the BlackBerry 10 devices months prior to release. They just never told you name of it or really let you play with it. It just takes one insider that trusts you. Sadly BlackBerry is no longer my account since 5 months ago so I have no inside on the slider. I can tell you though that the CIO fought hard to have Android on BlackBerry devices years ago especially when iPhone came out. . Most of BlackBerrys 10 OS is made up of Open Source companies along QNX as it's base.
    BlackBerry is all about forking Open Source where it can because they think they can do it themselves. Maybe this finally got approved to try Android OS on a secured device. They have secured Android FYI , 2 years ago. Problem is will Google let them use Play Store / Services for strictly consumer devices.

    BlackBerry10 w / Google Play Services please
    Dang, sure you should've said all of that lol

    Posted via CB10
    07-31-15 05:28 PM
  4. deadcowboy's Avatar
    BS the guy knew the projected msrp of the phone. No way.

    Posted via CB10
    08-01-15 08:23 AM
  5. anon(9169048)'s Avatar
    BS the guy knew the projected msrp of the phone. No way.

    Posted via CB10
    Why wouldn't he have? Vendors know the MSRP weeks if not months in advance, they have to have that sort of information in order to set initial inventory levels, amongst other things.

    Posted via CB10
    08-01-15 04:59 PM
  6. mithrazor's Avatar
    They make a phone (or product) based on a price range. They assess how much it will cost the company to make and what they'd want to sell it for.

    Especially with smartphones it's really not that hard lol

    Posted via CB10
    08-01-15 09:19 PM
  7. jas1978's Avatar
    This is how many BB10 phones I wish BlackBerry could sell. LOL. Attachment 364199
    That is a convergent series that equal 2, not infinity. That means you want BlackBerry to sell two phones! Lol

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    08-01-15 11:55 PM
  8. lift's Avatar
    That is a convergent series that equal 2, not infinity. That means you want BlackBerry to sell two phones! Lol

    Posted via CB10
    Try again. Maybe you need help. Google it.
    08-03-15 10:10 PM
  9. lift's Avatar
    That is a convergent series that equal 2, not infinity. That means you want BlackBerry to sell two phones! Lol

    Posted via CB10
    The reciprocals of the positive integers produce a divergent series (harmonic series)
    Talked to someone who played with the new slider-infinity.png
    The reciprocals of powers of 2 produce a convergent series (so the set of powers of 2 is "small"):
    Talked to someone who played with the new slider-equals_2.png

    Who is laughing now?
    jas1978 likes this.
    08-03-15 10:22 PM
  10. anon(9169048)'s Avatar
    How ridiculous has this thread become?

    Rhetorical.

    Posted via CB10
    08-04-15 10:30 PM
  11. cbvinh's Avatar
    How ridiculous has this thread become?

    Rhetorical.
    But... but... I was about to answer...

    Too bad there's not enough space in the margins...
    lift likes this.
    08-05-15 03:56 PM
  12. TheBirdDog's Avatar
    Didn't the Fire Phone not have the Google store? That and only selling through one carrier doomed it (kinda like the Z30).

    Posted via CB10
    Without carrier support, devices won't sell in high volume. Advertising is great, but it needs to include in-store ads and display demos for them to sell .
    08-05-15 05:47 PM
  13. extisis's Avatar
    Advertising is great, but it needs to include in-store ads and display demos for them to sell .
    BlackBerry didn't do either one for any BlackBerry 10 phone. Then ppl wonder why it's not selling.



    Posted via CB10
    08-05-15 08:09 PM
  14. Bbnivende's Avatar
    BlackBerry didn't do either one for any BlackBerry 10 phone. Then ppl wonder why it's not selling.



    Posted via CB10
    In Canada they did have demo models. In Ontario they still do. Where I live at least Telus has demo models. Helps for sure. The issue was and continues to be that most legacy owners have not kept on with the platform. Too expensive, no BIS, want apps, just want what other platforms offer,do not need a PKB. Etc.

    Posted via CB10
    08-06-15 06:32 AM
  15. extisis's Avatar
    The issue was and continues to be that most legacy owners have not kept on with the platform. Too expensive, no BIS, want apps, just want what other platforms offer,do not need a PKB. Etc.

    Posted via CB10
    The issue can't continue because that ship has sailed.



    Posted via CB10
    08-06-15 09:15 AM
  16. Bbnivende's Avatar
    Someone should have told Mr. Chen.

    Posted via CB10
    08-06-15 11:51 AM
  17. velkod's Avatar
    My cousin also talked to a guy at BlackBerry and the he said "the slider.... its gonna be... wow, an amazing phone"

    I didn't even hear something like that for the passport. My only hope is that there are some variations with it. I don't want it to big
    08-06-15 12:06 PM
  18. anon(2313227)'s Avatar
    Just needs some politics and this thread is the ****znitz.
    How ridiculous has this thread become?

    Rhetorical.

    Posted via CB10
    08-06-15 01:12 PM
  19. Dunt Dunt Dunt's Avatar
    Here in the US Verizon did have demo units of the Z10 and there was even a display at launch. There where a number of ads on television and

    Talked to someone who played with the new slider-img_00000112.jpg

    magazines at that time for the Z10.

    But the OS was too buggy at launch, and the app situation was TERRIBLE. Even with Sideloading there were Android Apps that didn't work. Carrier's quickly learned that the Z10 was not ready for prime time and pulled those displays. When I went back to get my daughters Z10 five months later, you had to ask for a BlackBerry and it was special ordered and they wanted to make sure you knew about the lack of apps.

    Today things might be a little different... but even pretty girls in swim suites aren't going to be enough.
    lift and MO3iusONE like this.
    08-06-15 02:10 PM
  20. thurask's Avatar
    There's a Z10 in that picture?

    Posted via CB10
    08-06-15 02:14 PM
  21. Dunt Dunt Dunt's Avatar
    I get you point... it is hard to tell what will be remembered by this ad.

    But at least it is targeted marketing and make more sense than puffs of colored smoke.

    And Maxim did do a BB10 app so their was a "partnership" of some sort going on there...

    But it shows that for a time.... there was marketing. But yes that was one of the first cut that Thor made, and it has never been given the attention it once had again.
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    08-06-15 02:47 PM
  22. BeautyEh's Avatar
    The Android is a winner in numbers and iOS wins in profits per device sold. BlackBerry needs to sell about 8 million Android and 2 million pure (no runtime) BB10 a year to make up their goal. Seems pretty daunting.

    Posted via CB10
    Actually I think that's feasible.

    On a previous thread we estimated how many people either miss, or would be interested in, a PKB device. We were in the 5% range, I think it is greater than this when you factor in various demographics including older people (my grandma will only use devices with keyboards, for example...this is not an isolated thing either. )

    Reliable sources (like Gartner) say over 1 billion smartphones were sold last year worldwide, which is staggering. Even if BlackBerry could only grab 1% of that with PKB androids, there's your 10 million devices. Can they also sell another 2-4 million BB10 devices for Government and extremely high security enterprise? (and the crackberrians here who don't want Google services) Suddenly they could have a sustainable handset business again.

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    08-06-15 07:52 PM
  23. Toodeurep's Avatar
    There's a Z10 in that picture?

    Posted via CB10
    I'll have to go back and check, I still haven't found one.
    lift likes this.
    08-06-15 08:05 PM
  24. Anilu7's Avatar
    STV100-1Edge/10.3.3-Lolipop5.1

    BlackBerry -Secured to the Core | CB MOD
    Um..."Lollipop" has two L's.
    extisis and mithrazor like this.
    08-08-15 08:33 PM
  25. FrankUnderwood's Avatar
    Most of the people I know who still have 9900's and Curves is that they're comfortable with that OS, they don't consume media on their phones so they don't see a need for it. They simply use their Berry's for email, phone and calendar and its simple to use.

    Not saying BB10 isn't easy to use. And with the Classic most of the operations feel the same as BBOS and they SEE that but they don't see the need for all the extra goodies. Granted many of them are in 40-50's professionals so surfing on CB or playing Clash of Clans or checking out kiddie porn on SnapChat isn't high up on their list so they'll stay with the old until it doesn't work....after that most say who knows.

    In Canada they did have demo models. In Ontario they still do. Where I live at least Telus has demo models. Helps for sure. The issue was and continues to be that most legacy owners have not kept on with the platform. Too expensive, no BIS, want apps, just want what other platforms offer,do not need a PKB. Etc.

    Posted via CB10


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    08-09-15 12:34 PM
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