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  1. walt63's Avatar
    The Smartphone Even The NSA May Have Trouble Hacking Is Coming Soon

    If you're worried about the NSA listening in on your smartphone, Silent Circle's "Blackphone" may be the last best hope.
    First announced in January, the Android-based phone goes on sale before the start of July for $629, according to NBC News.

    While the price is a bit hefty, it comes with impressive features, including fully encrypted voice, text, and video calls, and a virtual private network that anonymizes web surfing all built on a custom version of Android.

    Demand for such a device certainly ramped up after Edward Snowden began leaking top-secret documents detailing NSA surveillance programs, but Silent Circle had been working on the device long before.

    "We did this because there was a problem that was not being solved: secure communications," CEO Mike Janke, a former Navy SEAL, told AFP in January.

    With Janke leading the company, Silent Circle's team includes a number of cryptographic experts. including Phil Zimmermann, the creator of the widely-used PGP (Pretty Good Privacy) standard.

    The company has taken great pains to ensure it could not give up user data, even if compelled to by a government. While many U.S. companies receive controversial national security letters forcing them to share customer info, Silent Circle is incorporated in Switzerland and has Swiss data centers.

    But the main thing that sets the security of the phone apart is that the encryption itself resides only on the handset. While encrypted data passes through the company's servers, the individual keys necessary to unlock and read the data are only on the phones.

    Basically, if Silent Circle was forced to hand over data, all they could give up is a bunch of encrypted gibberish.

    "There is no such thing as a completely secure phone," Janke told AFP. "Nothing is going to protect you from your own behavior. But out of the box, this phone does a lot of things to protect your privacy."

    Silent Circle isn't the only company to come up with such a device. Boeing unveiled their own version of a "black" phone in February that had a "self-destruct" feature.

    Read more: Blackphone Set For July Launch - Business Insider
    06-19-14 10:55 AM
  2. L_ieven's Avatar
    Because, you know, BlackBerry is not existing anymore and the only way to be somewhat secured is to buy an android device. What the actual f***?

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    06-19-14 11:17 AM
  3. Dave Bourque's Avatar
    How much you wana bet it gets hacked on the first day due to the fact that it's still android....

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    06-19-14 11:19 AM
  4. NamelessStar's Avatar
    first day hack guarunteed android kernal is so insecure nothing can stop it.
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    06-19-14 11:24 AM
  5. zehkaiser's Avatar
    How about we all stop bashing the device that hasn't released and wait to see how well it does? I know. A crazy idea.

    To be fair, BlackBerry doesn't encrypt phone calls, texts, or web surfing out of the box.

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    06-19-14 11:31 AM
  6. KDB84's Avatar
    lol Secure Android. Neat.
    06-19-14 04:41 PM
  7. NamelessStar's Avatar
    How about we all stop bashing the device that hasn't released and wait to see how well it does? I know. A crazy idea.

    To be fair, BlackBerry doesn't encrypt phone calls, texts, or web surfing out of the box.

    Posted via CB10
    if they did that they wouldn't have any BES licencing and shooting themselves in the foot.

    main problem you cant fix an open source kernal soon as a leak is out by the time its fixed its to late for software pushes that's why BlackBerry will always win in this regard has never been hacked once.
    06-19-14 05:12 PM
  8. ErnstMach's Avatar
    if they did that they wouldn't have any BES licencing and shooting themselves in the foot.

    main problem you cant fix an open source kernal soon as a leak is out by the time its fixed its to late for software pushes that's why BlackBerry will always win in this regard has never been hacked once.
    Exactly. Why do you think lenovo wanted to buy BB? So the Chinese could have a backdoor into them.

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    06-19-14 06:50 PM
  9. Dave Bourque's Avatar
    Exactly. Why do you think lenovo wanted to buy BB? So the Chinese could have a backdoor into them.

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    And got shut down by Canadian government.

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    06-19-14 08:08 PM
  10. ErnstMach's Avatar
    And got shut down by Canadian government.

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    ... Because the Canadian Govt. Knew why lenovo really wanted BB

    Posted via the Android CrackBerry App!
    06-19-14 10:55 PM
  11. Dave Bourque's Avatar
    ... Because the Canadian Govt. Knew why lenovo really wanted BB

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    Well the agencies did yes.

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    06-19-14 11:04 PM
  12. crazigee's Avatar
    How about we all stop bashing the device that hasn't released and wait to see how well it does? I know. A crazy idea.
    Crazy on this forum only. In the real world you're making a lot of sense.

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    06-20-14 04:30 AM
  13. crazigee's Avatar
    first day hack guarunteed android kernal is so insecure nothing can stop it.
    How are you guaranteeing that?

    What are you going to do if it isn't? Are you finally going to stop making silly and prejudiced comments just because it isn't a BlackBerry?



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    06-20-14 04:32 AM
  14. ErnstMach's Avatar
    How are you guaranteeing that?

    What are you going to do if it isn't? Are you finally going to stop making silly and prejudiced comments just because it isn't a BlackBerry?



    Posted using my Z10 via CB10

    And what If the guarantee is met? Are you going to stop lurking through the forums making inflammatory statements in the hopes of starting an argument as you are wont to do? The guy was just stating his prediction of what will happen, and personally, I wouldn't be surprised if blackphone does get cracked very soon after release.

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    Last edited by ErnstMach; 06-20-14 at 09:46 AM.
    06-20-14 08:07 AM
  15. zehkaiser's Avatar
    And what If the guarantee is met? Are you going to stop lurking through the forums making inflammatory statements in the hopes of starting an argument as you are wont we do? The guy was just stating his prediction of what will happen, and personally, I wouldn't be surprised if blackphone does get cracked very soon after release.

    Posted via the Android CrackBerry App!
    TLDR; No.

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    06-20-14 08:15 AM
  16. crazigee's Avatar
    And what If the guarantee is met? Are you going to stop lurking through the forums making inflammatory statements in the hopes of starting an argument as you are wont we do? The guy was just stating his prediction of what will happen, and personally, I wouldn't be surprised if blackphone does get cracked very soon after release.

    Posted via the Android CrackBerry App!
    Lurking?

    I'm sorry. I guess I should apologize for not thinking that everything BlackBerry is the best and everything else is terrible. Maybe I should also apologize for not buying into the fact that BlackBerry's misfortunes are of their own making and not due to a conspiracy against them and poor marketing.

    I call it like it is and give credit where it's due. When that means BlackBerry gets credit great, but if it means saying something negative about BlackBerry or something positive about another platform so be it. I also have no problem pointing out when other people are saying things that they would be whining about if someone was saying them about BlackBerry.

    CrackBerry should be more than just place for people to spew hatred of other platforms without any basis other than the fact that they aren't BlackBerry.

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    Last edited by crazigee; 06-20-14 at 09:11 AM.
    06-20-14 08:51 AM
  17. ErnstMach's Avatar
    Lurking?

    I'm sorry. I guess I should apologize for not thinking that everything BlackBerry is the best and everything else is terrible. Maybe I should also apologize for not buying into the fact that BlackBerry's misfortunes are of their own making and not due to a conspiracy against them and poor marketing.

    I call it like it is and give credit where it's due. When that means BlackBerry gets credit great, but if it means saying something negative about BlackBerry or something positive about another platform so be it. I also have no problem pointing out when other people are saying things that they would be whining about if someone was saying them about BlackBerry.

    CrackBerry should be more than just place for people to spew hatred of other platforms without any basis other than the fact that they aren't BlackBerry.

    Posted using my Z10 via CB10
    Yes lurking, I saw your immature argument about heroes in the other thread. Im not referring to your realistic views on blackberry, but on your inflammatory statements that half contribute, half distract from the conversation. I ditched blackberry for a freaking Android, so im no mindless yes man for everything blackberry does either, but im not an *** about it when it comes down to it. ๐Ÿ˜Š

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    06-20-14 09:37 AM
  18. crazigee's Avatar
    Yes lurking, I saw your immature argument about heroes in the other thread. Im not referring to your realistic views on blackberry, but on your inflammatory statements that half contribute, half distract from the conversation. I ditched blackberry for a freaking Android, so im no mindless yes man for everything blackberry does either, but im not an *** about it when it comes down to it. ๐Ÿ˜Š

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    Neither am I. But calling someone a hero who clearly has done nothing heroic is insulting to and takes away from the real heroes who have earned and deserve our admiration. If you find that to be inflammatory, I'm sorry but it needed to said.

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    06-20-14 01:31 PM
  19. NamelessStar's Avatar
    How are you guaranteeing that?

    What are you going to do if it isn't? Are you finally going to stop making silly and prejudiced comments just because it isn't a BlackBerry?



    Posted using my Z10 via CB10
    Android proven hacked in 10 seconds in all models all devices kernel won't change just because it's been skinned by another developer.


    Posted via CB10 on my blazing fast Z30
    06-20-14 09:07 PM
  20. Raestloz's Avatar
    Android proven hacked in 10 seconds in all models all devices kernel won't change just because it's been skinned by another developer.


    Posted via CB10 on my blazing fast Z30
    It all comes down to the implementation, though I have to admit securing voice calls via encryption on the device is pretty much impossible unless the other side has an app OR is using the same device as the caller. The problem is any data transfer has to go through somewhere. With BlackBerry that could be the BES, although IDK about voice calls through mobile network. With this Blackphone (notice the Black part) nobody knows.

    Can anyone tell me which parts are encrypted by BES and are they still encrypted when sent to recipients?

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    06-20-14 09:22 PM
  21. slagman5's Avatar
    Let's have a pool. We have some people who buy into their hype. We have some people who say it'll be a day one hack. I know the NSA better. My bet is the company behind the "Blackphone" is funded by the NSA. The phone won't be "hacked" by the NSA because they'll have direct access to the data. It'll be marketed as a "NSA proof" phone to attract those who might have something they want to hide from the NSA (along with those who simply believe in privacy, which would make up the majority), but everyone will be spied on... That's my guess, and if you don't hear from me for more than a week, you know what happened... :-D
    06-20-14 11:56 PM
  22. crazigee's Avatar
    Let's have a pool. We have some people who buy into their hype. We have some people who say it'll be a day one hack. I know the NSA better. My bet is the company behind the "Blackphone" is funded by the NSA. The phone won't be "hacked" by the NSA because they'll have direct access to the data. It'll be marketed as a "NSA proof" phone to attract those who might have something they want to hide from the NSA (along with those who simply believe in privacy, which would make up the majority), but everyone will be spied on... That's my guess, and if you don't hear from me for more than a week, you know what happened... :-D
    Haha. I'll send out the search parties for you.

    Personally, I don't know one way or the other whether this phone will turn out to be secure or not. I'm not going to make any assumptions just on the basis that it's an Android.

    I also don't really care one way or the other because I have no plans on leaving BlackBerry for another platform anytime soon. That's both because I like BlackBerry and some of its features and also because if I switch platforms now before my contract is up I'll lose my 6gb data plan.

    Posted using my Z10 via CB10
    06-21-14 11:30 AM
  23. slagman5's Avatar
    Haha. I'll send out the search parties for you.

    Personally, I don't know one way or the other whether this phone will turn out to be secure or not. I'm not going to make any assumptions just on the basis that it's an Android.

    I also don't really care one way or the other because I have no plans on leaving BlackBerry for another platform anytime soon. That's both because I like BlackBerry and some of its features and also because if I switch platforms now before my contract is up I'll lose my 6gb data plan.

    Posted using my Z10 via CB10
    You'll care if it means you'll win this pool, so place your bets! Lol

    ?Posted without the aid of AutoCorrect with my physical keyboard via CB10?
    06-21-14 02:16 PM
  24. ndeep13's Avatar
    Android phone eh? Google is android and they are one of the biggest company's that gives information to NSA I don't trust it

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    06-27-14 04:41 AM
  25. Thunderbuck's Avatar
    Let's have a pool. We have some people who buy into their hype. We have some people who say it'll be a day one hack. I know the NSA better. My bet is the company behind the "Blackphone" is funded by the NSA. The phone won't be "hacked" by the NSA because they'll have direct access to the data. It'll be marketed as a "NSA proof" phone to attract those who might have something they want to hide from the NSA (along with those who simply believe in privacy, which would make up the majority), but everyone will be spied on... That's my guess, and if you don't hear from me for more than a week, you know what happened... :-D
    Bingo. That's about where I've landed on this, too
    06-27-14 05:07 AM
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