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What about the Aurora... was it BlackBerry that ignored it, or was it BB Merah Putih along with their 3rd party manufacture?
I expect each licensees is going to be responsible for updates to their hardware sets. Granted they'll first need the files from BlackBerry, but the ultimate release will not be up to BlackBerry (unless it becomes part of the licensing contract).08-29-17 12:21 PMLike 0 - Depends on the update process.... but does BlackBerry issue updates to the KEYone? Or does BlackBerry Mobile?
What about the Aurora... was it BlackBerry that ignored it, or was it BB Merah Putih along with their 3rd party manufacture?
I expect each licensees is going to be responsible for updates to their hardware sets. Granted they'll first need the files from BlackBerry, but the ultimate release will not be up to BlackBerry (unless it becomes part of the licensing contract).08-29-17 01:05 PMLike 0 -
Samsung has gained significant traction with Knox. It's hard to see why they would confuse things by adding "BlackBerry Secure" now.
Posted with my trusty Z1008-29-17 01:27 PMLike 0 - http://telecom.economictimes.indiati...urber/60275271
There you go. Licensees can manufacture their own brands but use Blackberry software.
Try google, works like a charm.08-29-17 02:37 PMLike 0 - Well, Samsung and BlackBerry reached an agreement on cross-licensing each other's intellectual property some years ago. For all we know, Knox already includes BlackBerry tech.
Samsung has gained significant traction with Knox. It's hard to see why they would confuse things by adding "BlackBerry Secure" now.
Posted with my trusty Z1008-29-17 02:39 PMLike 0 -
I mean charge more per device if the licensee does not follow the update releases or such?
Doesn't it harm the Blackberry brand? Or should Blackberry look at the situation just from a profit angle of view. Confuses me.08-29-17 02:42 PMLike 0 - http://telecom.economictimes.indiati...urber/60275271
There you go. Licensees can manufacture their own brands but use Blackberry software.
Try google, works like a charm.
"The second part is working with phone and other manufacturers to develop BlackBerry Secure where the brand is their brand but we help support the security features and secure private version of the software."
We have NO idea what conditions, limitations, or constraints this would entail either from BlackBerry or from its current licencees. This is what I've been saying all along. Nothing here states that Samsung would necessarily be eligible.08-29-17 02:51 PMLike 0 - Would Blackberry keeping the ropes tight about updates harm the licence contracts?
I mean charge more per device if the licensee does not follow the update releases or such?
Doesn't it harm the Blackberry brand? Or should Blackberry look at the situation just from a profit angle of view. Confuses me.
Each licencee pays BlackBerry for the level of OS support they wish.08-29-17 02:55 PMLike 0 - But if all licensees act like merah, wouldn't it damage the brand and eventually destroy it also? A little quality check might help in the long run? But again I can't be sure.08-29-17 04:05 PMLike 0
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Posted with my trusty Z1008-29-17 04:24 PMLike 0 - Those are valid questions. We don't know what conditions BlackBerry may have included in its licensing agreements. A lot depends upon how valuable they think their Brand is in the smartphone market. If they don't think it's worth much, they might not place too many quality-control requirements on their partners.
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I don't think that reflects on other licencees, nor any other BlackBerry line of business.Last edited by conite; 08-29-17 at 07:39 PM.
08-29-17 05:22 PMLike 0 - Allowing PT BB Merah Putih to request quarterly updates only does not necessarily damage the brand in Indonesia. Licencees know their respective markets, and BlackBerry seems fine with that.
I don't think that reflects on other licencees, nor any other BlackBerry line of business.
Posted with my trusty Z1008-29-17 07:23 PMLike 0 - Allowing PT BB Merah Putih to request quarterly updates only, does not necessarily damage the brand in Indonesia. Licencees know their respective markets, and BlackBerry seems fine with that.
I don't think that reflects on other licencees, nor any other BlackBerry line of business.08-29-17 11:26 PMLike 0 -
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It would stand to reason that BlackBerry will work to keep the standard high regarding security and that they would make sure their partners do the same when using BB software since the business reputation is dependent on it.Last edited by Sigewif; 08-30-17 at 05:03 AM.
08-30-17 04:53 AMLike 0 - If the updates are not kept up by licensees, wouldn't it have a negative impact if anything were to happen, due to the lack of updates? Case in point from the hardware side of things: somewhere along the line it was not followed up with quality control at the factory when the first KEYone phones were made. So there was a problem with the screens coming off. This had a negative impact on people's perception of the brand, which still lingers even though it is resolved. Just today I saw yet ANOTHER post (someone trying to be funny) about screens falling off (referring to the new phone that is coming out).
It would stand to reason that BlackBerry will work to keep the standard high regarding security and that they would make sure their partners do the same when using BB software since the business reputation is dependent on it.08-30-17 08:32 AMLike 0 -
High Standard... went out the door with the billions of dollars that they have lost in the last ten years. Do think that they have limitations in place to protect the brand, but nothing like they once had.08-31-17 10:52 AMLike 0 -
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- Then it would stand to reason that BlackBerry would be concerned with the additional security features that each new flavor of Android brings to users. We'd be asking when Oreo will come to the PRIV right now... not wondering about if it will ever get Nougat.
High Standard... went out the door with the billions of dollars that they have lost in the last ten years. Do think that they have limitations in place to protect the brand, but nothing like they once had.
There is probably no significant difference in security between patched Marshmallow and patched Nougat. If there was, we'd see security-oriented enterprises upgrading. We see zero organizations mandating version upgrades for security.
Google published a new build of Marshmallow on July 14, 2017.
I'm not arguing that Nougat isn't a significant improvement over Marshmallow, and I would recommend anyone who can should upgrade, but there is absolutely no evidence that there is a significant security gap between the two.
There is, however a significant difference in the features available.
Posted with my trusty Z1008-31-17 12:01 PMLike 0
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