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  1. Elite1's Avatar
    You realize 2K is a professional acquisition format that is essentially equivalent to 1080p (a consumer format, and a finishing format). Ultra HD (I think that's what they called it) and 4K are the same way. There are no consumer 4K televisions, just as there are no consumer 2K televisions.
    I don't understand what you mean.

    4K2K = 3840x2160 = 2160p = Ultra HD

    There are 4K2K TVs hitting the market already, although exorbitantly priced in most cases for now.

    Anyway I probably just misunderstood your point.
    03-21-14 02:27 AM
  2. pushpendrak's Avatar
    could it be next Playbook (2)
    03-21-14 04:07 AM
  3. jonp's Avatar
    You realize 2K is a professional acquisition format that is essentially equivalent to 1080p (a consumer format, and a finishing format). Ultra HD (I think that's what they called it) and 4K are the same way. There are no consumer 4K televisions, just as there are no consumer 2K televisions.

    Only PPI matters. And I'm happy with the current 326ppi on the Q10. But if we got something with 400+ ppi, well, I'd be happy with that, too.
    UHD has been available for at least a year now

    http://forums.crackberry.com/e?link=...token=r0LZo5a-


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    03-21-14 05:27 AM
  4. deadcowboy's Avatar
    UHD has been available for at least a year now

    http://forums.crackberry.com/e?link=...token=tLXLpJ7c


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    UHD is not the same as 4K. 4K's native resolution is 4096x2160. It is a professional acquisition format. UHD's resolution is 3840x2160. UHD is a consumer format. There are no true 4K televisions, whereas there are 4K monitors and cameras. You call one 4K and you call the other UHD4K, or 2160p. Just the way it is. I know it's stupid.

    I don't understand what you mean.

    4K2K = 3840x2160 = 2160p = Ultra HD

    There are 4K2K TVs hitting the market already, although exorbitantly priced in most cases for now.

    Anyway I probably just misunderstood your point.
    Now this difference isn't so stupid. Sorry guy, 2K has nothing to do with the horizontal resolution of UHD4K (which isn't even really 4K). 4K2K is not a format. 2K, like 4K, is also a digital film production format. Its resolution is 2048x1556. HD is a consumer format with a resolution of 1920x1080, or 1080p. And I explained how 4K works in the reply above this.

    Why do you guys doubt me?
    Last edited by deadcowboy; 03-21-14 at 11:40 AM.
    03-21-14 08:52 AM
  5. Elite1's Avatar
    UHD is not the same as 4K. 4K's native resolution is 4096x2160. It is a professional acquisition format. UHD's resolution is 3840x2160. UHD is a consumer format. There are no true 4K televisions, whereas there are 4K monitors and cameras. You call one 4K and you call the other UHD4K, or 2160p. Just the way it is. I know it's stupid.

    Now this difference isn't so stupid. Sorry guy, 2K has nothing to do with the horizontal resolution of UHD4K (which isn't even really 4K). 4K2K is not a format. 2K, like 4K, is also a digital film production format. Its resolution is 2048x1556. HD is a consumer format with a resolution of 1920x1080, or 1080p. And I explained how 4K works in the reply above this.

    Why do you guys doubt me?
    Hi guy!

    Bad news: technically incorrect terms achieve public adoption all the time.

    Like it or not, it looks like (some) companies are going to advertise consumer products as 4K2K instead of the accurate 2160p.
    Just because 4K and 2K each have independent (though somewhat related) definitions doesn't mean that the term 4K2K defies all imagination. 4K means 4 thousand. 3,840 could be rounded up to 4,000. 2K means 2 thousand. 2,160 could be rounded down to 2,000. Maybe they think it just sounds catchy for consumers to remember.

    Here's a random example of a manufacturer using the term:
    Panasonic Develops 56-inch 4k2k OLED Panel
    03-21-14 08:46 PM
  6. daves_25's Avatar
    Blackberry stayed with 720p on the Z30 because they promised that they would, to avoid developer fragmentation. I remember people in these forums saying they wanted 1080p, and some developers saying BlackBerry had better stick with the 720p they promised.

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    03-21-14 10:37 PM
  7. deadcowboy's Avatar
    Hi guy!

    Bad news: technically incorrect terms achieve public adoption all the time.

    Like it or not, it looks like (some) companies are going to advertise consumer products as 4K2K instead of the accurate 2160p.
    Just because 4K and 2K each have independent (though somewhat related) definitions doesn't mean that the term 4K2K defies all imagination. 4K means 4 thousand. 3,840 could be rounded up to 4,000. 2K means 2 thousand. 2,160 could be rounded down to 2,000. Maybe they think it just sounds catchy for consumers to remember.

    Here's a random example of a manufacturer using the term:
    Panasonic Develops 56-inch 4k2k OLED Panel
    Now back to what I originally corrected you for: insinuating that a 2K display in a phone would have four thousand horizontal pixels. So...you never even said this 4K2K thing in the first place...why are we talking about it? 2K and 4K are literally separate standards.

    I own a 1080p camera, a 2K camera, a 2.5K camera, and I will own a 4K camera in the near future (when the BlackMagic Production camera becomes available). I know what I'm talking about on the production side. And simply "2K" is not appropriate replacement term for UHD4K (or 2160p or whatever this 4K2K nonsense is).

    The only thing I'll concede to you is 4K2K is a blanket, general term for all of this 4K stuff. Some manufacturers use it. Just don't say just 2K, because that doesn't mean the same thing.
    Last edited by deadcowboy; 03-22-14 at 12:36 AM.
    03-22-14 12:14 AM
  8. Dave Bourque's Avatar
    Blackberry stayed with 720p on the Z30 because they promised that they would, to avoid developer fragmentation. I remember people in these forums saying they wanted 1080p, and some developers saying BlackBerry had better stick with the 720p they promised.

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    I thought staying with 720p would benefit the battery life too. So I think there's multiple good reasons.

    Z10STL100-3/10.2.1.2141
    03-22-14 12:22 AM
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