05-31-14 09:24 AM
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  1. crazigee's Avatar
    No real need to think about it... 5.5-inch QHD display at 538ppi with about a 3000mAh battery. It's not like the parts aren't available. 1080p is out, 2K is on the way in whether we need/want it or not lol. If BlackBerry ISN'T working on a 2K device then they NEED to be working on a 2K device. They need to shed that 'late to the party' image.
    Absolutely right. BlackBerry need to be working on a 2k device now so that they aren't releasing it a year after everyone else does.

    BlackBerry need to either be releasing it either before or at the same time as other manufacturers.

    Posted using my Z10 via CB10
    05-28-14 10:32 AM
  2. harshadpatel's Avatar
    Oh please give us the flagship full touch device.

    Posted via CB10
    05-28-14 10:38 AM
  3. crazigee's Avatar
    Oh please give us the flagship full touch device.

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    It's in the works.

    The question on my mind is when it will be released and what the specs will be.

    Posted using my Z10 via CB10
    05-28-14 10:47 AM
  4. thurask's Avatar
    Lool, I've rejuvenated my hopes about it though, I've heard word if a sighting of a full touch HD device alongside Wind more etc

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    Probably the LTE Z3. Something to supersede the Z10 instead of the Z30.
    05-28-14 10:53 AM
  5. crazigee's Avatar
    Probably the LTE Z3. Something to supersede the Z10 instead of the Z30.
    How does the Z3 LTE supersede the Z10?

    (I'm seriously asking because in don't know.)

    Posted using my Z10 via CB10
    05-28-14 11:12 AM
  6. thurask's Avatar
    How does the Z3 LTE supersede the Z10?

    (I'm seriously asking because in don't know.)

    Posted using my Z10 via CB10
    The "cheaper full-touch BlackBerry" market segment. "More expensive full-touch BlackBerry" is the Z30 for the moment.
    05-28-14 11:16 AM
  7. tinochiko's Avatar
    Probably the LTE Z3. Something to supersede the Z10 instead of the Z30.
    No, it wasn't shaped like the Z3 , but the only thing I could confirm was that it was part of the road map, whether it will be released thus year is another thing

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    05-28-14 11:20 AM
  8. crazigee's Avatar
    The "cheaper full-touch BlackBerry" market segment. "More expensive full-touch BlackBerry" is the Z30 for the moment.
    Yes, but I thoughts that the Z10 have a better processor and better screen etc than the Z3. Or are they upgrading all of those specs for the LTE version?

    Posted using my Z10 via CB10
    05-28-14 11:48 AM
  9. tinochiko's Avatar
    Yes, but I thoughts that the Z10 have a better processor and better screen etc than the Z3. Or are they upgrading all of those specs for the LTE version?

    Posted using my Z10 via CB10
    No I don't think that's true, there was even a thread somewhere complaining that the Z3 had more features that the Z10 even though it was a 'budget'

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    05-28-14 12:02 PM
  10. DavideaNY's Avatar
    It's absolutely to make things easier for developers. But as usual there is no appreciation for their efforts to keep BB10 a easy platform to port apps to.

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    I am not a developer in any sense but I do not understand how doubling the resolution is different (from a developer point of view) than increasing it by a a factor of 1.5 or any other factor? How that make life easier for developers? As long as they maintain the increase of length and width consistent (e.g. the same conversion factor for both dimensions) the developer does not need to introduce additional parameters in the code... I am really curious to understand how it works.. most likely doubling the resolution is dictated by what the screen producer are now designing and what is available (at cost) in the market
    05-28-14 12:26 PM
  11. crazigee's Avatar
    No I don't think that's true, there was even a thread somewhere complaining that the Z3 had more features that the Z10 even though it was a 'budget'

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    More features, but I think on hardware the Z10 was ahead. I remember reading that in a thread here on CB. Certainly the screen is a lower really than the Z10.

    Posted using my Z10 via CB10
    05-28-14 03:31 PM
  12. Powdah's Avatar
    I want a high spec Z50 with a Padfone like tablet accessory.
    05-28-14 03:41 PM
  13. Callhouse's Avatar
    In my opinion Blackberry doesn't need 2K device. It needs a Z10 successor - compact sizes with latest available hardware (64bit, 4GB ram, huge battery) FHD is too much for <4-5") but 900p (1600x900) may be enough.

    These 5"+ devices are not the main reason of each company's success - how many Lumias 520 have been sold compared to Lumia 920 at the time of their release?... How many S4's compare to low-end Samsungs? and so on...
    Last edited by Callhouse; 05-29-14 at 05:35 AM. Reason: correction
    05-29-14 05:32 AM
  14. anon2100101's Avatar
    Under reflection of the rumoured specs of the coming Q30 (1440x1440px, 4,5" Display,13MP-camera, 3450mAh-Accu, 2,x Ghz Quadcore-CPU, 3GB RAM...) I would expect a fulltouch-Device in similar quality. The fulltouch-device will have 5,2" display (rumours!)and surely a more powerful accu... It could be the long time awaited device with (the first time) competitive specs to Android.... (I dont talk about iPhone related to competition!) I expect 1440x2560px!!!
    05-29-14 07:21 AM
  15. crazigee's Avatar
    In my opinion Blackberry doesn't need 2K device. It needs a Z10 successor - compact sizes with latest available hardware (64bit, 4GB ram, huge battery) FHD is too much for <4-5") but 900p (1600x900) may be enough.
    Enough is the way to ensure BlackBerry continues to spiral downhill.

    Being competitive is the way to help them move forward.

    Everyone else has full HD. So that's what BlackBerry needs.

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    05-29-14 10:07 AM
  16. Elite1's Avatar
    ... more or less doubling the current device resolutions...
    They've already doubled the resolution... the upcoming Q30 is 1440p vs current 720p resolution.
    ... I do not understand how doubling the resolution is different (from a developer point of view) than increasing it by a a factor of 1.5 or any other factor...
    What many people are seeming not to realize is we are discussing quadrupling screen resolution, not just doubling it. That's what happens if you maintain aspect ratio but double rows & columns.

    To simplify, imagine a 10x10 screen. That's 100 pixels. Double each side to make a 20x20 screen and you have 400 pixels.

    720x720 = 518,400 pixels
    1440x1440 = 2,073,600 pixels

    720x1280 = 921,600 pixels
    1080x1920 = 2,073,600 pixels
    1440x2560 = 3,686,400 pixels

    Sign me up!
    05-29-14 11:22 AM
  17. VR6's Avatar
    What many people are seeming not to realize is we are discussing quadrupling screen resolution, not just doubling it. That's what happens if you maintain aspect ratio but double rows & columns.

    To simplify, imagine a 10x10 screen. That's 100 pixels. Double each side to make a 20x20 screen and you have 400 pixels.

    720x720 = 518,400 pixels
    1440x1440 = 2,073,600 pixels

    720x1280 = 921,600 pixels
    1080x1920 = 2,073,600 pixels
    1440x2560 = 3,686,400 pixels

    Sign me up!
    BlackBerry Planning 2K All-Touch Device?-math.jpg
    05-29-14 11:58 AM
  18. crazigee's Avatar
    What many people are seeming not to realize is we are discussing quadrupling screen resolution, not just doubling it. That's what happens if you maintain aspect ratio but double rows & columns.

    To simplify, imagine a 10x10 screen. That's 100 pixels. Double each side to make a 20x20 screen and you have 400 pixels.

    720x720 = 518,400 pixels
    1440x1440 = 2,073,600 pixels

    720x1280 = 921,600 pixels
    1080x1920 = 2,073,600 pixels
    1440x2560 = 3,686,400 pixels

    Sign me up!
    I'd buy that touch device. Put me on the waiting list.

    Posted using my Z10 via CB10
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    05-29-14 12:53 PM
  19. kfh227's Avatar
    If the square screen is going to be 1440x1440, it would make sense that the next touch be ????x1440.

    Sounds reasonable.

    This would be WQHD.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Display_resolution
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    05-29-14 01:16 PM
  20. DaedalusIcarusHelios's Avatar
    I'm hopeful that a beast 2K device comes out some time next year, which will be when I can upgrade my Z10.

    I didn't see it explained why doubling the resolution in height and width (or quadrupling, as Elite1 pointed out) is easier for developers. It's because everything can be scaled easily without any visual artifacts. A single pixel scales without interpolation to 2x2 (4 pixels). So apps designed for Z30 could automatically be supported because they'd look the same on the higher-resolution screen as they would on a Z30. If a developer decides to want more detailed assets (images) in the app to take full advantage of the increased pixel density, then they could still do that. This means BlackBerry can make it so all Z30 apps could automatically show up in BlackBerry World for the new device without developers needing to do anything. Apple did the same thing.
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    05-29-14 02:15 PM
  21. The Big Picture's Avatar
    Maybe just maybe.

    BlackBerry will release 2 super high end phones windermere Q30 qwerty AND ontario (or whatever) Z50 full touch as a LAST TRUE PUSH to see if they can once again capture share market.

    Both devices will feature Top of the line specs, displays, batteries, cameras, etc.

    And these 2 devices will come out at the same time in september with 10.3 preinstalled.

    Signature - Google wants your info. What are you gonna do about it?
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    05-29-14 02:32 PM
  22. eyesopen1111's Avatar
    Maybe just maybe.

    BlackBerry will release 2 super high end phones windermere Q30 qwerty AND ontario (or whatever) Z50 full touch as a LAST TRUE PUSH to see if they can once again capture share market.

    Both devices will feature Top of the line specs, displays, batteries, cameras, etc.

    And these 2 devices will come out at the same time in september with 10.3 preinstalled.

    Signature - Google wants your info. What are you gonna do about it?
    THIS. Launch the flagships Z50 and Q30, then add the Z3 and Classic at the economy end. Perfect.

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    05-29-14 11:19 PM
  23. tinochiko's Avatar
    Unfortunately my source tells me that the 4 devices to come will not be bigger than 720, but will have improved battery life.. I would prefer both, but if it came to it I would have battery life over 1080/2K for the full touch

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    05-30-14 11:23 AM
  24. Thesmartmale's Avatar
    Unfortunately my source tells me that the 4 devices to come will not be bigger than 720, but will have improved battery life.. I would prefer both, but if it came to it I would have battery life over 1080/2K for the full touch

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    Unfortunately your source is wrong!

    Posted via CB10
    05-30-14 11:26 AM
  25. tinochiko's Avatar
    Unfortunately your source is wrong!

    Posted via CB10
    Lol possible, based on?

    Doesn't mean they aren't working on it, just that it's not one of the next 4 to drop that Chen mentioned

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    05-30-14 11:34 AM
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