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  1. rigwrecker's Avatar
    Just going to throw my $.02 in here.

    I hope that the current Chen "hype" about physical keyboards is short lived. That being said, I realize there is a small niche for them, and the hard core, die hard BB users might still want one, but with the technology of the vkb, it is amazing and screen real estate, is clearly much more on said devices...
    With the focus on pkb devices - this year - for BB, it is essentially the same as the wait between the OS7 devices and B10. Another year will have come and gone, without a *new flagship touchscreen device.
    I think the way the Q10 and Z10 were released close together is the way to do it. Now, I'm not for a second saying that they (T & co.) did it "right" as both phones were, well, duds. Not because of the device, but because of the exposure and marketing. Ensure both vkb & pkb phones are supported and release, well.... "The Kraken"! then 6 mo. later, release the lower end models. This would ensure that the majority of the "hard work" would be done trying to release the flagships and then could "dumb down" the lower end models at leisure.

    Just how I see it.

    have a good one all.
    kenshin92 likes this.
    06-16-14 09:52 AM
  2. crazigee's Avatar
    Just going to throw my $.02 in here.

    I hope that the current Chen "hype" about physical keyboards is short lived. That being said, I realize there is a small niche for them, and the hard core, die hard BB users might still want one, but with the technology of the vkb, it is amazing and screen real estate, is clearly much more on said devices...

    Just how I see it.
    Agreed. BlackBerry shouldn't get rid of keyboard devices, but emphasizing them over touch devices is ludicrous.

    Posted using my Z10 via CB10
    06-16-14 11:20 AM
  3. MarsupilamiX's Avatar
    Agreed. BlackBerry shouldn't get rid of keyboard devices, but emphasizing them over touch devices is ludicrous.

    Posted using my Z10 via CB10
    Funny how everyone understands that, apart from BlackBerry....

    Posted via CB10
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    06-16-14 11:27 AM
  4. crazigee's Avatar
    Funny how everyone understands that, apart from BlackBerry....

    Posted via CB10

    I know. I had huge confidence in Chen, until he said that. The as soon he said that I knew he was grasping at straws.

    Posted using my Z10 via CB10
    06-16-14 01:52 PM
  5. Dave Bourque's Avatar
    I know. I had huge confidence in Chen, until he said that. The as soon he said that I knew he was grasping at straws.

    Posted using my Z10 via CB10
    While he's holding a Z10. Rofl.

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    06-16-14 01:53 PM
  6. crazigee's Avatar
    While he's holding a Z10. Rofl.

    Z10STL100-3/10.2.1.3175
    Sorry, don't get you comment at all.

    Posted using my Z10 via CB10
    06-16-14 02:05 PM
  7. Dave Bourque's Avatar
    Sorry, don't get you comment at all.

    Posted using my Z10 via CB10
    You see Chen holding a Z10 in a photo op. We see that picture around the forums all the time. I honestly don't think he uses a qwerty himself.

    Z10STL100-3/10.2.1.3175
    06-16-14 02:28 PM
  8. crazigee's Avatar
    You see Chen holding a Z10 in a photo op. We see that picture around the forums all the time. I honestly don't think he uses a qwerty himself.

    Z10STL100-3/10.2.1.3175
    Oh ok. I've seen that picture, and he very well might use a Z10.

    I wasn't referring to what he uses, but instead the quote he gave to the media that he was "emphasizing keyboards" going forward.

    Posted using my Z10 via CB10
    06-16-14 03:49 PM
  9. Erik_1991's Avatar
    Wow.. exited!

    Posted via CB10 for my beloved Z30 running 10.2.1.3175
    06-16-14 04:27 PM
  10. MAJ009's Avatar
    Wow.. exited!

    Posted via CB10 for my beloved Z30 running 10.2.1.3175
    Exited?? So soon, don't loose hope bro
    LMFAO....
    Or excited? )

    CAUTION : MAJ On Z30 Now!!!!
    06-16-14 04:30 PM
  11. Dave Bourque's Avatar
    Oh ok. I've seen that picture, and he very well might use a Z10.

    I wasn't referring to what he uses, but instead the quote he gave to the media that he was "emphasizing keyboards" going forward.

    Posted using my Z10 via CB10
    Exactly. You would think that touchscreen smartphones should also be extremely important and it should be. Why else release a Z3.

    Z10STL100-3/10.2.1.3175
    06-16-14 04:33 PM
  12. The Big Picture's Avatar
    Put it this way there's a reason the Q10 is holding its price and for anyone keeping track there are almost as many Q10s to Z10s in the market without major discounts and giveaways.

    If you dont believe me ask the BB10 native developers.

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    06-16-14 05:03 PM
  13. Erik_1991's Avatar
    Exited?? So soon, don't loose hope bro
    LMFAO....
    Or excited? )

    CAUTION : MAJ On Z30 Now!!!!
    Whoops :$ Excited indeed ghehe (a)

    Posted via CB10 for my beloved Z30 running 10.2.1.3175
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    06-16-14 05:19 PM
  14. Dave Bourque's Avatar
    Put it this way there's a reason the Q10 is holding its price and for anyone keeping track there are almost as many Q10s to Z10s in the market without major discounts and giveaways.

    If you dont believe me ask the BB10 native developers.

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    They also overproduced the Z10 due to over expectations.

    Z10STL100-3/10.2.1.3175
    06-16-14 06:37 PM
  15. trwallace's Avatar
    Just to move the commercial accounts over to bb10. When you still have boatloads of people using olderbold phones you need to move them over to bb10 and those people don't care if the phone can play flappy bird or not they want it for bbm and communicating. A basic keyboard device is the answer. That's why keyboard devices are coming. The non touch devices will have their spot but its not the majority. I think the flagships might bring customers but its the good basic devices that the majority buy. Sorry for the car analogy but they go in looking at the corvette but end up buying the Chevy crude unfortunately that's the way it works.

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    06-16-14 11:09 PM
  16. anon5759238's Avatar
    The road map is odd about the first quarter . The q5 and z30 were released last year... z30 was in October I think ...I suppose the Z3 is the jet

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    06-17-14 01:14 AM
  17. crazigee's Avatar
    Just to move the commercial accounts over to bb10. When you still have boatloads of people using olderbold phones you need to move them over to bb10 and those people don't care if the phone can play flappy bird or not they want it for bbm and communicating. A basic keyboard device is the answer. That's why keyboard devices are coming.
    Keyboards are the answer? No way they are. If there were BlackBerry wouldn't be in the position they are now.

    I think the flagships might bring customers but its the good basic devices that the majority buy.
    When BlackBerry had good reliable high end devices they were doing well. People want good devices that's why people are jumping to buy the GS and iPhone devices as soon as they are released.

    Posted using my Z10 via CB10
    06-17-14 07:10 AM
  18. MAJ009's Avatar
    Keyboards are the answer? No way they are. If there were BlackBerry wouldn't be in the position they are now.



    When BlackBerry had good reliable high end devices they were doing well. People want good devices that's why people are jumping to buy the GS and iPhone devices as soon as they are released.

    Posted using my Z10 via CB10
    Yes...agreed..high end touch, low end touch budget devices and similarly qwerty devices for qwerty fans...all planned sensibly should help BlackBerry slowly but surely claw back it's lost market share. And yes, don't forget sensible marketing )
    Unfortunately, no one dimensional approach would work and I'm sure JC is not that dumb to know this...

    CAUTION : MAJ On Z30 Now!!!!
    06-17-14 08:24 AM
  19. Ponyboy24's Avatar
    The road map is odd about the first quarter . The q5 and z30 were released last year... z30 was in October I think ...I suppose the Z3 is the jet

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    True. I didn't see the Z50 on there either, unless the Manitoba is the Z50.
    Sorry if someone else posted this.
    06-17-14 12:01 PM
  20. thurask's Avatar
    That roadmap being tossed back and forth is out of date, if it was true at all. 10.3.0/Windermere soon (Sep?), 10.3.1/Classic shortly after (Oct-Nov). The order is from BlackBerry.

    http://devblog.blackberry.com/2014/0...a-has-arrived/

    As for a full touch, nothing major in the cards yet. Still no signs of Manitoba in the OS.

    Posted via CB10
    06-18-14 02:49 PM
  21. r0v3rT3N's Avatar
    That roadmap being tossed back and forth is out of date, if it was true at all. 10.3.0/Windermere soon (Sep?), 10.3.1/Classic shortly after (Oct-Nov). The order is from BlackBerry.

    BlackBerry 10.3 SDK Beta has Arrived | BlackBerry Developer Blog

    As for a full touch, nothing major in the cards yet. Still no signs of Manitoba in the OS.

    Posted via CB10
    Wouldn't they only start referencing that in 10.3.1?
    06-18-14 02:50 PM
  22. thurask's Avatar
    Wouldn't they only start referencing that in 10.3.1?
    Windermere/Ontario was in 10.2.x, I believe.

    Posted via CB10
    06-18-14 03:03 PM
  23. Tank1978's Avatar
    That roadmap being tossed back and forth is out of date, if it was true at all. 10.3.0/Windermere soon (Sep?), 10.3.1/Classic shortly after (Oct-Nov). The order is from BlackBerry.

    http://devblog.blackberry.com/2014/0...a-has-arrived/

    As for a full touch, nothing major in the cards yet. Still no signs of Manitoba in the OS.

    Posted via CB10
    Is it possible that something would show up, once 10.3.1 drops?

    Posted via CB10
    06-18-14 03:18 PM
  24. The Big Picture's Avatar
    Is it possible that something would show up, once 10.3.1 drops?

    Posted via CB10
    I think we'll see signs of manitoba in the next 10.3 OS leak.

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    06-18-14 06:26 PM
  25. Blacklatino's Avatar
    IIRC, ATT passed on the Z30 to offer the next all touch later on.
    Yeah. I'll get excited when I'm holding one and see "actual" advertisement by at&t.

    .10.3.0.296+ .442. (~_*)
    06-18-14 06:57 PM
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