Any touch screen devices in the pipeline???
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- Everyday I have the urge to come here and have a look at the posts
With the hope that one day. I will see
The.. " New touch screen phone Specs"
Or something else that would say " new touch screen Phone"
But nothing...
Does anybody know if there is one on the work??
Thanks..
Posted via CB1004-16-19 10:17 AMLike 0 -
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- And that is why BlackBerry will always experience low sales volume. There should be a upgrade path for the Motion, and there should be an upgrade path for a Motion 2. I am not against pkb devices, but 99.9% of the world cares less about them. The market wants All Touch Slabs.04-17-19 09:51 PMLike 0
- And that is why BlackBerry will always experience low sales volume. There should be a upgrade path for the Motion, and there should be an upgrade path for a Motion 2. I am not against pkb devices, but 99.9% of the world cares less about them. The market wants All Touch Slabs.04-17-19 09:53 PMLike 0
- Sure they can be competitive, they have an advantage, built in HUB features and Security baked into the OS. Current Motion owners require an upgrade path, where is it? Not to mention many others that used to be on BB10 are still looking to see what all touch high end phone comes out of BBRY. Again, where is it?04-17-19 09:56 PMLike 0
- Sure they can be competitive, they have an advantage, built in HUB features and Security baked into the OS. Current Motion owners require an upgrade path, where is it? Not to mention many others that used to be on BB10 are still looking to see what all touch high end phone comes out of BBRY. Again, where is it?world traveler and former ceo likes this.04-17-19 09:58 PMLike 1
- And that is why BlackBerry will always experience low sales volume. There should be a upgrade path for the Motion, and there should be an upgrade path for a Motion 2. I am not against pkb devices, but 99.9% of the world cares less about them. The market wants All Touch Slabs.
Don't get me wrong, I'm with you. I'd like a full touch BlackBerry too. Unfortunately AT&T never carried it, and few other carriers did. Many phones still sell through carriers, so that didn't help much.
I understand their reluctance. I don't like it, but I understand it.Mansuet likes this.04-17-19 10:02 PMLike 1 - Because Torch 9860, Z10, Z30, DTEK50, DTEK60, Aurora, Motion and Evolve have all been runaway hits??04-18-19 12:00 AMLike 0
- Well, I've had 9860, Z10, Z30, and DTEK60. Didn't like the motion personally when I tried it for a few days. Wish we had the Evolve X. If BBMo made something like a Huawei P30 pro with a headphone jack and a decent DAC, and stereo speakers, they would lead the market. The LG G8 and new V50 just don't have the camera capabilities I'd like. The Samsung S10 5G has a decent feature set, but lacks stereo speakers, and the night mode on the camera isn't even close to the Huawei. Oppo 10x has great zoom and I love the popup selfie camera design, but again the whole package lacks a bit.04-18-19 02:49 PMLike 0
- Well, I've had 9860, Z10, Z30, and DTEK60. Didn't like the motion personally when I tried it for a few days. Wish we had the Evolve X. If BBMo made something like a Huawei P30 pro with a headphone jack and a decent DAC, and stereo speakers, they would lead the market. The LG G8 and new V50 just don't have the camera capabilities I'd like. The Samsung S10 5G has a decent feature set, but lacks stereo speakers, and the night mode on the camera isn't even close to the Huawei. Oppo 10x has great zoom and I love the popup selfie camera design, but again the whole package lacks a bit.04-18-19 02:50 PMLike 0
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- Thing is, as someone who owns an electronics Import company and deals with factories in Asia on a regular basis (since 2006), the retail prices consumers see are 3-4 times (at minimum) what the actual products really cost. TCL / BBMo can be competitive if they want to. The pricing is set by what the market will support. And with regard to your dreams and unicorns comment, a headphone jack / DAC cost under 80 cents at production level, and that extra speaker is under 4 cents for a generic one (9 cents for a premium, high excursion unit). Take a flight to Guangzhou and visit the Canton fair and you might open your perspectives a little bit. If you don't want to get a visa, go to the HK Electronics fair. Both events are put on twice a year.elfabio80 likes this.04-18-19 03:25 PMLike 1
- Thing is, as someone who owns an electronics Import company and deals with factories in Asia on a regular basis (since 2006), the retail prices consumers see are 3-4 times (at minimum) what the actual products really cost. TCL / BBMo can be competitive if they want to. The pricing is set by what the market will support. And with regard to your dreams and unicorns comment, a headphone jack / DAC cost under 80 cents at production level, and that extra speaker is under 4 cents for a generic one (9 cents for a premium, high excursion unit). Take a flight to Guangzhou and visit the Canton fair and you might open your perspectives a little bit. If you don't want to get a visa, go to the HK Electronics fair. Both events are put on twice a year.04-18-19 03:30 PMLike 0
- Thing is, as someone who owns an electronics Import company and deals with factories in Asia on a regular basis (since 2006), the retail prices consumers see are 3-4 times (at minimum) what the actual products really cost. TCL / BBMo can be competitive if they want to. The pricing is set by what the market will support. And with regard to your dreams and unicorns comment, a headphone jack / DAC cost under 80 cents at production level, and that extra speaker is under 4 cents for a generic one (9 cents for a premium, high excursion unit). Take a flight to Guangzhou and visit the Canton fair and you might open your perspectives a little bit. If you don't want to get a visa, go to the HK Electronics fair. Both events are put on twice a year.
iPhones and other Android flagships are being sold BOGO and no second or third rate OEM is going to break up the current model. Carriers and their flagship partners make sure of that. You speak as if TCL and BBMo have any type of budget to move the needle. I suspect the big 3 Apple/Google/Microsoft plus big three Android OEMs in the West have billions just to keep the wireless accessories going plus other related hardware.
The manufacturing costs for the Flagship consumer products are usually insignificant to retail cost. I grew up in personal leather goods business. Do you really think it costs the various companies anything components wise to justify $100 wallets/belts and $300 purses?raymach1 likes this.04-18-19 03:42 PMLike 1 - Thing is, as someone who owns an electronics Import company and deals with factories in Asia on a regular basis (since 2006), the retail prices consumers see are 3-4 times (at minimum) what the actual products really cost. TCL / BBMo can be competitive if they want to. The pricing is set by what the market will support. And with regard to your dreams and unicorns comment, a headphone jack / DAC cost under 80 cents at production level, and that extra speaker is under 4 cents for a generic one (9 cents for a premium, high excursion unit). Take a flight to Guangzhou and visit the Canton fair and you might open your perspectives a little bit. If you don't want to get a visa, go to the HK Electronics fair. Both events are put on twice a year.
Their is a huge difference in component retail and as part of a complete device. A replacement screen for a KEY2 might be $80 retail, but only cost BBMo $15. But it takes much more money to sell that complete device and support it in a global market. I have no doubt you might find that same screen for $20 at some fair. You aren't going to find a KEY2 that can be used in 100's of markets, has a warranty and support system and will get updates for the next three years...
By most account Huawei is selling phones for $15 - $20 over cost... based on volume - something that BBMo doesn't have.04-18-19 04:00 PMLike 0 - I am not sure that your business in the USA or any other country can get a USA government contract if your firm is using Huawei telephone equipment including their phones.
I gather the USA does not want Huawei to gain a foothold in the coming 5G market and that is their main concern.Last edited by RLeeSimon; 04-18-19 at 05:27 PM.
04-18-19 04:49 PMLike 0 -
The threat from Chinese espionage seems to be real... what happens when they are the only game in town, other than Apple?
Next couple of years you will see a number of none Chinese OEM fade out of the business... LG, Sony,HTC,Motorola(last two already Chinese owned now).
To be honest, the need to BlackBerry's Android Secure where BlackBerry controls the injection of the OS... might be very valuable in a few years.04-18-19 05:00 PMLike 0
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