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  1. kopps's Avatar
    I'll be picking one up


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    03-18-14 10:42 PM
  2. Nharzhool's Avatar
    What are you talking about. Are you trying to claim that 720p is better somehow?

    The screen on the Z30 is noticeably pixilated. Why are you comparing apples to oranges. The Galaxy note was released in 2011. The Z30 was released in 2013. So I'd you're saying that the Z30 specs are good enough for 2011, the I agree with you.

    If you want to make a valid comparison you need to compare the Z30 to the GS4 or even GS5. The Z30, which was released end of 2014, has a 5" display with only 294 ppi. The GS4 also has a 5" display, but 441 ppi. The S5 will have a 5.1" display, which is closest to this rumored BlackBerry, which is maybe going to have a 5.2" screen. The S5 has 432 ppi. So if you're really trying to claim that this new rumored device should still have a 720p screen, and therefore a ppi of even lower than 294, and still look as good then you're just nuts.

    I'm talking about the 5.2" screen on the rumored upcoming device, which should be 1080p to maximize the ppi, and to be competitive with other flagship devices. It can't have a lower than 294 ppi and compete with a device than has 432 ppi.




    Again, you have your facts a bit mixed up. My brother has a GS4, which has both a larger and higher resolution screen than my Z10, and somehow he has significantly better battery life than my Z10.

    The constant referral to battery life as an excuse for a lower resolution is nothing more than a pitiful attempt by the BlackBerry faithful to justify the lower end specs on the current BlackBerry line up. Sorry but it's true.

    Posted using my Z10 via CB10
    Nooo...1080p is better than 720p.

    I think you misunderstood what I was trying to say.

    When people pick up the Note 2, they don't complain that the screen is bad or that things look pixelated, so I don't understand why some people on here claim that the Z30 does. I've never heard anybody complain while looking at either the Z30 or the Note 2, that they don't have nice screens.

    I wasn't saying that they are comparable devices in accordance to today's spec-standards; just that the screen isn't as bad as people were saying it is going to be.

    1080p is better, but I would actually prefer the option of 720p on the flagship for the purposes of battery life. I get that this is impractical because at 5.2", app would need to be repackaged twice to work on this device...it would just be a nice thing if it were 5". I would permanently have it on 720p BECAUSE 1080P IS NOT NECESSARY.

    Mate, people complained a LOT about the battery life on the Z10. In response, BlackBerry made something that would last an absurdly long time. That's the same reason that the brightness has been software-limited on the Z30 - so that you're forced to not waste battery life.

    I didn't have any facts mixed up...I'm not sure what you're on about...

    Of course the Z10 would have a worse battery life than the GS4. The former has an 1800mAh battery with an IPS LCD screen that drains battery quickly. The latter has a 2600mAh battery and an AMOLED screen which, if you're using darker images, uses less power.

    My Fiance's GS4 doesn't actually last as long as my Z10 but she has bright everything and brightness on max. She also never turns anything off.

    I would rather have a great phone that lasts forever, than one that is unnoticeably different barring its spec-sheet, that doesn't last anywhere near the length. The very reason why I'm going to get the Z30 instead of the GS4 (the only nice thing is the camera - but I don't care that much about it).

    Mmm...CB10! Just the tip though...
    03-22-14 01:01 AM
  3. Plazmic Flame's Avatar
    "BlackBerry teases new phone that will 'steal' away iPhone and Android users"

    With a title like that, it already puts BlackBerry in a bad light. Not to say that it's true but when the aim is set at "stealing away users" from another platform, you're already on the wrong path....
    03-23-14 10:29 PM
  4. crazigee's Avatar
    With a title like that, it already puts BlackBerry in a bad light. Not to say that it's true but when the aim is set at "stealing away users" from another platform, you're already on the wrong path....
    How does it put BlackBerry in a bad light?

    Isn't it the right path to try to get users to come to BlackBerry from iOS and Android? If not then they're just keeping their current users and they don't have enough of those to be profitable.



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    Last edited by crazigee; 03-24-14 at 11:24 AM.
    03-23-14 11:46 PM
  5. Solar 77's Avatar
    Any updates on this?

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    03-24-14 10:44 AM
  6. rajbir01's Avatar
    Any updates on this?

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    One word...Mjolnir ...courtesy of Ofutur

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    Last edited by rajbir01; 03-25-14 at 10:57 AM.
    03-24-14 10:25 PM
  7. Koepman's Avatar
    Lmfao

    Z10STL100-2/10.2.1.2141 O2 UK
    Seriously?

    Since 2010 ?
    03-25-14 07:27 AM
  8. guygardner73's Avatar
    Seriously?

    Since 2010 ?
    No, 2011.

    Z10STL100-2/10.2.1.2141 O2 UK
    03-25-14 07:37 AM
  9. KDB84's Avatar
    Is the Z30 considered a phablet?

    Z10STL100-3/10.2.1.2141
    I consider it a phablet. Way too big for me. I won't be considering this amazing phone just for the fact that it would be too big for me to use comfortably.

    Offer a specced up Z10 form factor, and I'm all over it.

    Posted from my Z10 via CB10
    03-25-14 10:58 AM
  10. guygardner73's Avatar
    I consider it a phablet. Way too big for me. I won't be considering this amazing phone just for the fact that it would be too big for me to use comfortably.

    Offer a specced up Z10 form factor, and I'm all over it.

    Posted from my Z10 via CB10
    My brother in law has the Z30 and the actual phone size is not much bigger than a Z10. The screen is larger but the bezel is much narrower.

    Z10STL100-2/10.2.1.2141 O2 UK
    03-25-14 12:29 PM
  11. Rello's Avatar
    My brother in law has the Z30 and the actual phone size is not much bigger than a Z10. The screen is larger but the bezel is much narrower.

    Z10STL100-2/10.2.1.2141 O2 UK
    That's how I feel....Z30 isn't much bigger than the Z10

    Personally I feel the Z10 is a big 4.3" device. Bezels are huge. Lots of wasted space. I know BB10 needs it for the gestures but I hope they are smaller on the upcoming flagships

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    03-25-14 01:05 PM
  12. Mr.V786's Avatar
    That's how I feel....Z30 isn't much bigger than the Z10

    Personally I feel the Z10 is a big 4.3" device. Bezels are huge. Lots of wasted space. I know BB10 needs it for the gestures but I hope they are smaller on the upcoming flagships

    Posted via CB10
    Very true! I just got my z30 after getting the z10 on 31st Jan 2013. The z30 is not that much bigger!

    The z30 is the same size as the new SG5 except the S5 is thinner.

    I love the size of the z30 considering I thought the size of the Z10 was the perfect size!

    If you think a 5" phone is too big think again!

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    03-25-14 03:01 PM
  13. Alain_A's Avatar
    ok 4.3" for younger people and 5.2" for older people...........I need 5.2"
    03-25-14 06:39 PM
  14. Heinz Katchup's Avatar
    It will be really interesting to see if these new flagship phones will be IPS or AMOLED screens. I returned my Z30 because of the AMOLED display. Still happily using my Z10 IPS. Might be a deal breaker for me when it comes times to upgrade to a new release.
    03-25-14 07:11 PM
  15. Rello's Avatar
    It will be really interesting to see if these new flagship phones will be IPS or AMOLED screens. I returned my Z30 because of the AMOLED display. Still happily using my Z10 IPS. Might be a deal breaker for me when it comes times to upgrade to a new release.
    Why is a amoled screen a deal breaker?

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    03-25-14 09:48 PM
  16. Heinz Katchup's Avatar
    Why is a amoled screen a deal breaker?

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    To bright at night. To dim during the day. In other words not very versatile for viewing.

    Apple uses IPS for all there iGear. Doesn't seem to be hurting their sales.

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    03-25-14 10:53 PM
  17. RECOOL's Avatar
    Why is a amoled screen a deal breaker?

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    Its really important. Amoled sucks Its not bright enough poor under the sun & daylight. Needs dark mode to get any good results of the screen. Dark mode is completely backwards for visual experience makes no sense when most of the mobile experience is reading.

    Amoled is fail for me.
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    03-26-14 10:27 AM
  18. jeffbb10's Avatar
    I feel by the time this phone comes out another brand will already have done it. Way to slow for this release. All BlackBerry needs to do is release a phone before someone does then we can start seeing people switch to BlackBerry. Again way to slow for release.

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    03-26-14 11:05 AM
  19. KDB84's Avatar
    Personal preference - I've used both phones side by side and I much prefer the look and feel of the Z10 - the size of the10 was pushing it for me when I upgraded to bb10 at launch, so anything bigger is out of the ball park, if you follow me.

    My brother in law has the Z30 and the actual phone size is not much bigger than a Z10. The screen is larger but the bezel is much narrower.

    Z10STL100-2/10.2.1.2141 O2 UK


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    03-26-14 11:27 AM
  20. jonp's Avatar
    Its really important. Amoled sucks Its not bright enough poor under the sun & daylight. Needs dark mode to get any good results of the screen. Dark mode is completely backwards for visual experience makes no sense when most of the mobile experience is reading.

    Amoled is fail for me.
    I thought AMOLED was great for battery life - though I have a Z10 and never used that type of screen...

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    03-26-14 11:30 AM
  21. RECOOL's Avatar
    I thought AMOLED was great for battery life - though I have a Z10 and never used that type of screen...

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    That's what they say. But I see LG do ok with 1080p 5+ inch screens so who can I take serious?? Samsung will spin amoled as great (despite it being mediocre) because they makes the screens.

    If you hold the Z10 sideby side to the Q10 & Z30 you see how poorly lit amoled is. People will hype up the colour definition but its irrelevant when its dim light and poor reading glass.Theres also that horrible blue tint from angles.
    03-26-14 01:17 PM
  22. crazigee's Avatar
    I feel by the time this phone comes out another brand will already have done it. Way to slow for this release. All BlackBerry needs to do is release a phone before someone does then we can start seeing people switch to BlackBerry. Again way to slow for release.

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    This is very true and I've been saying it for a while now. BlackBerry can't keep releasing phones that have last year's specs and expect anyone to switch back.

    Step 1: Release a phone that has industry leading specs that really shows what BlackBerry can do.

    Step 2: Price the phone below the most recent iPhone and Galaxy S series to encourage people to take a chance on it.

    Once they get good phones into people's hands they will build good word of mouth and it will snowball. Then on future devices they can price then in the same category with other industry leaders.

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    03-26-14 01:24 PM
  23. mithrazor's Avatar
    That's what they say. But I see LG do ok with 1080p 5+ inch screens so who can I take serious?? Samsung will spin amoled as great (despite it being mediocre) because they makes the screens.

    If you hold the Z10 sideby side to the Q10 & Z30 you see how poorly lit amoled is. People will hype up the colour definition but its irrelevant when its dim light and poor reading glass.Theres also that horrible blue tint from angles.
    On top of that, the whites on AMOLED are yellowish as well.

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    03-26-14 03:05 PM
  24. crazigee's Avatar
    On top of that, the whites on AMOLED are yellowish as well.

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    So is the only advantage of AMOLED power consumption?

    Posted using my Z10 via CB10
    03-26-14 04:37 PM
  25. mithrazor's Avatar
    For non-white pixels. It's uses less power. For white pixels, it can use up to 3x from what I've read.

    That's not to say all AMOLEDS are bad. Just these aspects for Samsung Pentile displays on current BlackBerry's.

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    03-26-14 11:16 PM
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