- Here is a fun and potentially new stat to the conversation.
No modern Democrat has ever won the Presidency following a Democrat. It's been 150 years. Even more interesting (sort of at least) Reagan to Bush is the only time in about a century that any party retained the White House.
Says a lot about how the country feels after 8 years of one party in the White House. It also make me thing the country really liked Ronald Reagan.
As for me, I cannot decide which train wreck I'd rather see. Consider me undecided or "None of the Above".02-11-16 09:36 PMLike 0 - I'm confused (a more normal situation than I like to admit). What exactly is an immigrant?
Is it a person who comes to a country for a better life who is willing to learn the customs and language and follow the law? Who is willing to work hard and contribute to society? Who follows the legal entry guidelines? Obviously I have an important and selfish reason for this question.
If that person is just coming to get on the welfare system, I don�t want them. We don't want FOREIGN freeloaders who come and multiply into even more freeloaders! Why? Easy! Less free stuff for me!
If that person is coming to re-create what they left why the h311 are they leaving their country? And who is stupid enough to let them takeover pockets of the host country? And more to the point, less free stuff for me.
If they come illegally, well they broke the law! Doesn't it apply to them? Aren't others following the law? Why do the lawbreakers get rewards by being allowed to stay? And why do I get less free stuff because of lawbreakers?
If they follow the rules and come here to work hard, I'm all for it! That way, you guessed it, more people working equals more free stuff for me.
"Aren't we all immigrants?" Well kumbayah to you. None thinking can't we all just get along reasons like that is why France and Sweden and Norway and Germany, etc are in crisis right now!
In conclusion, (I feel brainy writing that), I don�t want my entitlement to free stuff endangered by non working, possibly dangerous "immigrants". Wow, writing all that was hard work. I'll try not to make it a habit!
"I don't think that word means what you think it means."
"Immigration is the movement of people into a destination country to which they are not native or do not possess its citizenship in order to settle or reside there, especially as permanent residents or naturalized citizens, or to take-up employment as a migrant worker or temporarily as a foreign worker."
Oh and that second part is just about every person that's made your food when you went out to eat.
Don't forget all of those working illegal immigrants pay taxes and will never received a refund, pay Social Security and Medicaid without being able to apply for benefits.ominaxe likes this.02-11-16 09:53 PMLike 1 - 02-11-16 11:09 PMLike 2
- Did you mean "don't pay taxes"? I thought illegals were paid under the table so there is no paper trail leading back to the company (as its illegal to employ illegal workers). And companies paid them less because no taxes were being paid... Otherwise, the company's competition would just call immigration, no?02-11-16 11:24 PMLike 0
- No offense sir but you have no idea what you are talking about if you name venezuela as a successful socialist democracy... do you know that in that country today people are lining up to buy toilet paper? Or when you go to a supermarket after chasing down a sad bottle of milk for a month the cashier will check your national id since it will be sold according to the last digit (0-1, Monday; 2-3, Tuesday and so on)... I am not kidding, research a bit before supporting an idea...
Trump had 4 bankruptcies out of over a 100 companies. That actually is a pretty good record. I have clients who have had more than that. Most golf courses have 7 before they turn a profit.
He must be doing something right. It was pointed out to me that every time he undertakes a project, he finds and hires the best talent, ie baling out the NY ice rink, multiple golf courses, etc.
Whether Carly destroyed or saved HP is up for debate. The main question is did she learn anything about leadership.
Show me a successful socialistic democracy. Hmm, Venezuela - or perhaps Denmark where they have the highest tax rates, etc. And also a failing economy. Bernie's heart is right, but methods wrong. Also, look at what he has accomplished in 22 yrs in Congress. Partial author of 2 bills. Can he bring together warring parties? Me thinks not.
Posted via CB1002-12-16 01:37 AMLike 0 - No offense sir but you have no idea what you are talking about if you name venezuela as a successful socialist democracy... do you know that in that country today people are lining up to buy toilet paper? Or when you go to a supermarket after chasing down a sad bottle of milk for a month the cashier will check your national id since it will be sold according to the last digit (0-1, Monday; 2-3, Tuesday and so on)... I am not kidding, research a bit before supporting an idea...
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Posted from my Verizon Z10 10.3.2.85802-12-16 02:45 AMLike 0 - Here, Google can clear up those iffy definition questions pretty fast.
"Immigration is the movement of people into a destination country to which they are not native or do not possess its citizenship in order to settle or reside there, especially as permanent residents or naturalized citizens, or to take-up employment as a migrant worker or temporarily as a foreign worker."
Oh and that second part is just about every person that's made your food when you went out to eat.
Don't forget all of those working illegal immigrants pay taxes and will never received a refund, pay Social Security and Medicaid without being able to apply for benefits.
Posted via CB1002-12-16 03:51 AMLike 0 -
Congratulations on both your parents being American citizens.
Posted via CB10misterabrasive likes this.02-12-16 06:15 AMLike 1 -
- Did you mean "don't pay taxes"? I thought illegals were paid under the table so there is no paper trail leading back to the company (as its illegal to employ illegal workers). And companies paid them less because no taxes were being paid... Otherwise, the company's competition would just call immigration, no?
-If a employee has paper work that may or may not be real, an employer has to take it at face value, because they are not " document experts " . So on paper they are all legal, but they just might not be who they say they are.
- to wages, a good cook or fryer can make well over the minimum wage, but it still work that the average American still don't want to do.
- immigration doesn't have the man power or the will to disrupt the Restaurant Industry as long as everyone is in the book somehow.
So you might as well call Immigration on your self because everyone's dirty in that respect.02-12-16 09:47 AMLike 0 - ^^^^ read above for answer...
How are they paying social security without a social security number. Many of these people are working "under the table ". They are eligible for school education and thefts was a report just last week that hundreds of millions of dollars are being spent on subsidized health care.
Posted via CB1002-12-16 09:49 AMLike 0 -
Migration has existed since Mankind and No Wall or fence will ever stop it.02-12-16 10:02 AMLike 3 - Well if you want to go back even further than we probably all immigrated from somewhere around Ethiopia. There was no one here when they came but there was someone here when we came. we weren't exactly fare with them either where we?
Migration has existed since Mankind and No Wall or fence will ever stop it.
Posted via CB1002-12-16 11:17 AMLike 0 - Good, private property is just a fallacy and everyone is required to do just as the group demands, democratic Socialism. Locked doors must be banned because it is not Christian to leave people out in the cold. Food should be a right that does not require payment because it is wrong to deny food. Water should be free and safe for all. Never ever should water be paid for, seventy percent of the surface of Gaia is water.
Posted via CB1002-12-16 01:15 PMLike 0 - Now that's just crazy talk, please educate yourself on the subject instead of making outlandish assumptions. Every civilized society has a basic safety net for its inhabitants. Do you think that the Americans living it up in the 1920s ever thought that they would be in the Soup and Bread lines just years later. Then going on to fight a World War and then return to Build up the US to what it is today.
Check your private messages.
Posted via CB1002-12-16 02:18 PMLike 0 - Now that's just crazy talk, please educate yourself on the subject instead of making outlandish assumptions. Every civilized society has a basic safety net for its inhabitants. Do you think that the Americans living it up in the 1920s ever thought that they would be in the Soup and Bread lines just years later. Then going on to fight a World War and then return to Build up the US to what it is today.
Posted via CB1002-12-16 02:26 PMLike 0 - Interesting...http://healthrangerreport.com/which-...es-oppose-gmos
For those aware of GMO dangers
Posted via CB1002-12-16 02:49 PMLike 0 - In many states it makes better sense to not work since the safety net is so generous. So glad I'm paying for my health care when other coworkers are on Medicaid since they are not married but decided to have a child. Oh and before you say war on women, my wife and I drive a combination of 325 miles each day to work because we don't take hand outs. My wife also has a second job to boot. Get up off your rump and work. Shovel manure to get some extra money like my wife did during college. How much of my family's money is the fair share? I have a friend who has kidney failure and is working a regular job and makes tackle which he sells to stores and at fishing expos. So tired of the "poor me" parasites.
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As to your friend I'm sorry to hear that, if the American Health Care system was set up like in all other Modern Country he wouldn't go Bankrupt while trying to get treatment, it's not right to make massive Profit on people's Health when all they want to do is live.
Read this Article For a small example of how over priced Health Care Is in America, even with Health Insurance Your rates and Premiums will continue to rise when you become unprofitable.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/04/he...pagewanted=all02-12-16 02:54 PMLike 0 - Let me explain to you at least how it works in the Restaurant industry.
-If a employee has paper work that may or may not be real, an employer has to take it at face value, because they are not " document experts " . So on paper they are all legal, but they just might not be who they say they are.
- to wages, a good cook or fryer can make well over the minimum wage, but it still work that the average American still don't want to do.
- immigration doesn't have the man power or the will to disrupt the Restaurant Industry as long as everyone is in the book somehow.
So you might as well call Immigration on your self because everyone's dirty in that respect.
A cook is not a good example of a job that American's don't want. Cleaners, pickers, yes, but not cooks.02-12-16 04:33 PMLike 0 - Dwight Eisenhower taxed the hell out if the United States and we built the Interstate Highway system. Tax cuts have ruined this country. We either need to go back to the tax system of the 1950's or stop policing the world and putting our kids in harms way for nothing or hopefully do both.
Eisenhower warned of the military industrial complex. Combine that with big oil and big banks and you have the situation we were in in 2008.
These Republicans want to roll back things to the way they were. I guess they mean gas at 5 dollars a gallon and double digit unemployment.
Obama did a great job considering what he was left with.
Now I'm going to vote for "the commie" so he can finish extracting us from the Republican cesspool.
Democrats and centrists are to blame for one thing: not showing up to the polls. And not heeding history. From Hoover to George W. Bush a Republican run government equals a disaster.
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Posted via CB1002-12-16 09:14 PMLike 4 - The highway system was built for military deployment. Tax cuts have ruined this country? You could pay 100 percent taxes an the powers to be will Pizz it away. As for big banks F en everything up, not true. The government F every thing up. The banks can only do what the law allows. The 2008 crisis started with Reagan when the Government wanted everyone to be a home owner and lacked the laws?. As for Obama doing a great job for what he was left with? BS that's what I say! You don't see a ripple affect from a Presidency for at least four years and a second term president is almost immediate. Let see Obama Care useless health care with high cost health insurance with a high deductible that most people will never meet. Let me tell you a true story. My hours and job was cut just so my past employer didn't have to pay for insurance. My daughter-in-law hours and job was cut so her employer didn't have to pay insurance. My grandsons hours and job was cut so his employer didn't have to pay insurance. How many million of people have the same story? How about another true story about the great Obama Care that was forced on us. My wife works for the county ( a government employees) after she pays for her part of health care and $4000.00 to HSA for the deductible she brings home $126.00 a week. Let me ask you how in the F is that affordable health care? All yes you can afford health care but nothing else. And now you want a Socialist to take even more. But we will get free stuff! Big business will pay for everything! It's all Wall Streets fault! The Government will fix everything! People you have to be smarter than that! Let me ask what Government Program has ever panned out? Let me ask this if you were in business and it took $5 to bring in a $1, how long would you be in business? All and the Obama administration is proud of a 4.9 percent unemployment rate. 4.9? is that true? how many millions are off paper? Let me remind you all in 2008 the unemployment rate was 5 percent. Damn Obama is the man!
BlackBerry 10 or nothing!
If your wife worked in Canada, she'd be below the poverty line and wouldn't pay any premiums.
The problem with your health care system isn't just insurance premiums, it's that it's operated for profit, with multiple levels of cash extraction. The whole system needs to be scrapped and started over from the ground up.
You can't simply go by unemployment rate in 2008, you have to look at where it was heading, which was a steep increase and not a flat line that would have continued at 5%. In fact, it was already 7.8% when Obama took office.
I pay $75/month for my health premium and government also pays a portion of my prescription. My salary will almost double this year and it still won't increase my premium.
I don't know what a former California colleague currently pays under Obama care, but years ago it was $6000 a year. I paid roughly 1/10th as him. Your system was broken before, and still broken, just broken in different ways for different people.
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