Originally Posted by
cereal killer Hello Alex. I see you a very passionate about this subject. Thats good I'm glad. Let me preface this by saying that I'm not offended nor do I feel attacked by you. I understand where your coming from. Your faith i.e blind belief is coming into question. It's hard to be challenged outright with such strong statements that I have made. As you will see I stand behind these and will in fact show you that when you really begin to look into things, I mean really look into things you will see that you are being lied to. what I will say will probobly offend the hardcore believers. But I ask that one not just throw out what I'm saying but to take the time to actually research what I say and see if it does not turn up as fact. I deal in facts not in fables and fairy tales. So we will begin.
But wait, before I begin this little journey with you I must smoke a giant blunt so that I may tap into the universal unconsciosness that flows through all of us. So stand by Im going to get good and baked.
Ok I'm good. This is so indepth that I could not possibly put everything down on one post but I will start with the basic Jesus Christ issue. Was he real?
Lets start with Horus. Remember him though because we will come baqck to this dude at the ending. Horus is the Sun god of Egypt of around 3000 BC. Horus was born on December 25th of the virgin Isis-Meri. His birth was accompanied by a star in the east, whiich in turn, 3 kings followed to locate and adorn the new-born savior. At the age of 12, he was a prodigal child teacher and at the age of 30 he was baptized by a figure known as Anup and began his ministryy. Horus had 12 disciples he traveled about with, performing miracles such as healing the sick. Horus was known by many gestural names such as The Truth, The Light, God's Annointed Son, The Good Shepherd, The Lamb of God, and many others. After being betrayed by Typhon, Horus was crucified and then buried for 3 days, and resurrected.
These attributes of Horus whether original or not seem to permeate many cultures of the world. Take a look.
1.Attis of Phyrigia born of the virgin Nana on December 25th, crucified, placed in a tomb and after 3 days was resurrected.
2.Krishna of India, born of the virgin Devaki with a star in the east signaling his coming, performed miracles with his disciples and upon his death was resurrected.
3.Dionyysus of Greece was born of a virgin on December 25th was a traveling teacher who performed miracles such as turning water into wine. He was referred to as the "King of Kings," "God's Only Begotten Son," "The Alpha and Omega," and many others, and upon his death, he was resurrected.
4.Mithra of Persia, born of a Virgin on December 25th had 12 disciples and performed miracles, and upon his death was buried for 3 days and was resurrected. He was also referred to as "The Truth," "The Light," and many others.
the fact of the matter is there are numerous "saviors", from different periods, from all over the world, which subscribe to these general characteristics. But why? Why the virgin birth on Decembr 25th, why dead for 3 days and the inevitable resurrection, why 12 disciples or followers?
Have you ever thought of that Alex? Isn't that interesting? I find it very interesting.
When you begin to look into the whole birth of jesus Christ you will see it is purely astrological. first of all teh star in the east is Sirius, the brightest star in the night sky, which on December 24th aligns with the 3 brightest stars in Orion's Belt. These 3 bright stars are called today what they were called in ancient times....The three kings. seeing a pateern here deveolping yet? The 3 Kings and the brightest star, Sirius, all point to the place of the sunrise on December 25th. Now this next point is very important! This is why the 3 kings "follow" the star in the east, in order to locate the sunrise -- the birth of the sun. Also known as the birth of Jesus. You see?
The most obvious of all the astrological symbolism around Jesus regards the 12 disciples. They are simply the 12 constellations of the Zodiac, which Jesus,being the sun, travels about with. The number 12 is all over the Bible and as scholar of the bible you will know that. this text has more to do with astrology than anything else.
Do I have to point out also that the story of Jesus is really northing more than plagerism of the egyptian god Horus? Inscribed about 3500 years ago on the walls of the Temple of Luxor (Egypt) are images of the enunciation, the immaculate conception, the birth, and the adoration of Horus. The images begin with Thaw announcing to the virgin Isis that she will conceive Horus, then Nef the holy ghost impregnating the virgin, and then the virgin birth and the adoration.
I don't know about what you have read but this is exactly the story of Jesus' miracle conception. Don't you find the literary similarities between the Egyptian religion and the Christian religion staggering Alex?
In closing, the character of Jesus is simply a literary and astrological hybrid. You would think that a guy who rose from the dead and ascended into heaven for all eyes to see and performed the wealth of miracles acclaimed to him would have made it into the historical record. It didn't! Because once the evidence is weighed, there are very high odds that the figure known as Jesus, did not even exist.
The Bible is a whole other thread bro. We can do that one later. But I really don't think we should go there unless you want to hear the real truth about it. I don't want to upset you or make you feel bad thats not my intention.
You asked me to make my case and prove it. I've made my case and proved it.
I hand the bong to you now Alex.
Cain have I utterly failed?