1. jlb21's Avatar
    "Watching" the apple iPhone event via Endgadget's live blog:

    Live from Apple's iPhone 4 press conference -- Engadget
    Last edited by jlb21; 07-16-10 at 12:03 PM.
    07-16-10 11:52 AM
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    Sure seems like a lot of pissed people waiting to get in.....hey, is that a blackberry I see (just kidding...but if I had a magnifying glass, I bet i could find one.......)


    Hey, that guy on the left.....is he wearing his iphone bumper case on his wrist.......
    Last edited by jlb21; 07-16-10 at 12:05 PM.
    07-16-10 11:54 AM
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    10:07AM "You know, we're not perfect. We know that, you know that. And phones aren't perfect either."
    07-16-10 12:07 PM
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    07-16-10 12:08 PM
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    I don't think I can keep up......
    07-16-10 12:08 PM
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    10:09AM "We started getting reports about issues with the antenna system, and, the problems they were saying... Gizmodo put their video on the web, touching the corner, and people were seeing a large drop in bars."



    10:09AM "This was 22 days ago... we haven't had out head in the sand. We've been working on this for just 22 days. We are an engineering company, and we want to find out what the real problem is. We've been working our butts off so we can come up with real solutions. And we want to share what we've learned."
    07-16-10 12:11 PM
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    10:10AM "Antennagate -- that doesn't seem like a good thing if you can make the bars go down by touching the phone. Well we first learned that this doesn't just happen to the iPhone, Nokia, Motorola... other phones have this issue. But we didn't trust the videos on YouTube, we started doing our own testing... here's what we discovered."

    07-16-10 12:11 PM
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    Uh oh....stevie is attacking us:



    10:11AM "There's the Bold, 5 bars to 1 bar." "Next, the Droid Eris."

    10:11AM "The BlackBerry Bold 9700... let's see what happens when you hold it in a normal way... 5 bars... and now on holding the left side. The bars go down."
    07-16-10 12:13 PM
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    10:13AM "None of this is standardized... and so again, you'll see it go back up. They go back up faster than they go down."

    10:13AM "Samsung Omnia II -- it's got 4 bars to start... we grip it in a not unusual way... this one has a long hysteresis in their algorithm..." We're waiting...

    10:12AM "Starts off with 4 bars... and the time it takes for the bars to go down has to do with the algorithm... so it goes down to zero bars, and then it goes back up." Definitely looks like the same behavior.

    07-16-10 12:14 PM
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    10:14AM "So we could have gone on and on. Most smartphones take a hit exactly the same way. These were all tested in areas of relatively weak signal strength. This is life in the smartphone world. Phones aren't perfect. It's a challenge for the whole industry. Every phone has weak spots."


    Look at what he said there: "tested in areas of relatively weak signal". How unrealistic is that....unless you live in NYC.
    07-16-10 12:15 PM
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    10:15AM "Now we're not perfect. We made it very visible with a little help from our friends on websites. We put this little line here... 'here's where you touch it everybody!'"

    07-16-10 12:17 PM
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    10:16AM "And we had a reporting error -- we screwed up on our algorithm. Some of these other phones may be too generous. Our choice was to put the correct algorithm in. And we did that with the new update. You'll still see a drop... we haven't figured out a way around the laws of physics yet."
    07-16-10 12:18 PM
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    10:17AM "You have to build these rooms or you don't get accurate results. This is a state of the art facility. We've invested over $100 million on this. We have 17 anechoic chambers."

    07-16-10 12:19 PM
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    10:18AM "We knew that you could see bars drop on the phone when you hold it in a certain way, it's a fact, phones aren't perfect. But people are reporting better reception with this antenna than they've ever seen before."

    10:19AM "So what have we learned? Smartphones have weak spots -- this isn't just the iPhone 4, it's all phones. Next, some really interesting data from AppleCare, we looked at the statistics, we asked what's the percentage of all iPhone 4 users that have called AppleCare about the antenna or reception, or anything near reception problems. Because you would have thought 'Jesus, it must be a lot of users complaining about this' -- So what percentage have called AppleCare? 0.55% Just one half of one percent."




    My comment to add: If you have a device with a "known problem", do you immediately call support about it, or wait and see what shakes out or the like........
    07-16-10 12:20 PM
  15. convex20899's Avatar
    Eh! Are you talking to your self?
    07-16-10 12:23 PM
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    10:21AM "This is not a large number. This doesn't jibe with what you read. Let's keep going. So smartphones have weaknesses, and AppleCare data shows only 0.55% have called in about reception issues. The third, return rates... AT&T has a 'buyer's remorse' clause, you can return a phone no questions asked. Apple has the same thing. So what are our return rates? Well we're going to compare it to the iPhone 3GS..."

    10:22AM "In the early days of the iPhone 3GS return rates were 6%... below the average, we were happy with that... so for the iPhone 4? You think half the people must be returning their phones with what you read online... well it's 1.7% -- less than a third of the 3GS returns."
    07-16-10 12:23 PM
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    ok, so I thought others would be curious to follow the event......but i f you are, easier to be on the live blog rather than reading this.....

    Sooooo, over and out.
    07-16-10 12:28 PM
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    loved this one I had to share:

    10:41AM Q: I can't get my Bold to drop right now, maybe you can show me how to do it?
    Steve: You may not see it in certain areas.
    07-16-10 12:44 PM
  19. syb0rg's Avatar
    -The iPhone 4 death grip signal degradation thingy happens to a lot of smartphones. Apple demonstrated it on a BlackBerry 9700, Samsung Omnia 2, and HTC DROID Eris.
    And the fact that you're in a building has nothing to do with it? and i don't see to have that problem on my 9700 or on my HTC Magic

    -The software update (4.0.1) released yesterday will take care of the error in the signal calculation algorithm that Apple discovered several weeks ago.
    I guess software may help.... but it makes about as much sense as using a screen door on a submarine.

    -Another software update to address other issues (like the proximity sensor thing) is due soon.
    Yea yea yea we've heard that before

    -Until September 30th, Apple will be giving iPhone 4 purchasers/owners a free bumper or case (depending on supply). A website with details will go live next week.
    Really? Awesome, not they admit there is a problem, and the bumper is the fix because it is a hardware problem

    -Users who already purchased a bumper will be eligible for a refund. You had to have purchased an Apple bumper, not a third-party case.
    again, they are admitting there is a problem when one touches the phone

    -The return rate on the iPhone 3GS at AT&T stores was 6%, the return rate of the iPhone 4 is 1.7%.
    I wonder if that is due to people going back to the 3GS, or if they are using a bluetooth so they don't have to touch it

    -The white iPhone 4 will be out sometime later the month.
    Sweet more phones, more problems

    -Apple has sold over 3 million iPhone 4s thus far.
    Three million faulty radios you mean?

    -0.55% of iPhone 4 owners have called in to AppleCare to complain.
    I guess they don't read blogs or watch videos put out by C-Net.... or read consumer report

    -Steve Jobs does not use a bumper on his iPhone 4.
    but i bet his phone is fixed correctly


    Dear Steve Jobs,

    Thank you for making it easy to love Android and Blackberries.

    Thanks,
    ........... your customers
    07-16-10 02:05 PM
  20. middbrew's Avatar
    That has got to be the longest one person thread I have seen since I left myself 23 post-notes on the the fridge back in 98.
    07-16-10 11:42 PM
  21. LazyStarGazer's Avatar
    Hi. My name is mjneid.
    Hating the iPhone? That was my idea.



    And the fact that you're in a building has nothing to do with it? and i don't see to have that problem on my 9700 or on my HTC Magic



    I guess software may help.... but it makes about as much sense as using a screen door on a submarine.



    Yea yea yea we've heard that before


    Really? Awesome, not they admit there is a problem, and the bumper is the fix because it is a hardware problem



    again, they are admitting there is a problem when one touches the phone


    I wonder if that is due to people going back to the 3GS, or if they are using a bluetooth so they don't have to touch it


    Sweet more phones, more problems



    Three million faulty radios you mean?


    I guess they don't read blogs or watch videos put out by C-Net.... or read consumer report



    but i bet his phone is fixed correctly
    07-17-10 12:20 PM
  22. syb0rg's Avatar
    Hi. My name is mjneid.
    Hating the iPhone? That was my idea.
    right after i invited the internet Al Gore stole my idea, so i had to come up with something.

    07-17-10 12:53 PM
  23. Deathcommand's Avatar
    I got my phone to drop from 5 to 3 bars.
    If I ENGULF the bottom of my 8330m it falls.

    My friends droid Eris.
    Within a building with only 4 (out of 5) 3G on VZW. And roaming on vzw with my bb

    It. Never worked.

    Steve is lame.

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    07-19-10 12:49 AM
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