Official everyfin' to do with PlayBook hijack thread?
- once upon a time theres middle class see eh? now a days no more...they disappears...nobody is making no money see? so people use to own things and have things see.....nothing change there...except corporation did.....they created the illusion that americans still able to afford things..these things are from china...cheap things that cost zero american dollars to make...all corporations move the labour force out of the country. Because it cost too much to make in america . there's labour law...there's standard to maintain, theres too many red tapes to get things produce in america and its very very expensive....but this corporations still wants to make your money....so they have to sell in volume to make up for the low dollar value.....along the way the standard of living drop in America...essentially you pay what you get. It becomes the way of life to accept low quality because many got no money to complain anymore. It's no accident Wallymart and dollarama is springing up every 200 feet. If that fan from china cost you $50, it's going to cost a heck lot more if its made in America. Perhaps a few people rather pay for quality than quantity( you would have to keep buying if the quality is bad) , unfortunately many could not afford to pay outright or be in debt for a fan see? Many already in debts for larger items. Short of revolutionary change in america political system nothing will change in a foreseeable future....in a very long term perhaps when china , india , indonesia and the rest of the third world country catch up on standard of living equal to industrial countries things will change....but by then i think the human race will be extinct like the dinosaurs......08-03-14 06:57 PMLike 4
- Must be a made up company name in china - cause Massey is Anglo english, as in Massey Harris that changed to Massey Ferguson - tractors, machine parts,.etc?
But in the end ya got to blame Wallymart - they're the ones that forced companies out of business by lowering prices so low, it cost them to produce, so work went to.china, india etc.
Big business as an entity is what will eventually kill the western world.
Well, that's my soapbox for today - BTW: I just bought my 3rd playbook !!sad_old_man and Carl Estes like this.08-03-14 07:01 PMLike 2 - Must be a made up company name in china - cause Massey is Anglo english, as in Massey Harris that changed to Massey Ferguson - tractors, machine parts,.etc?
But in the end ya got to blame Wallymart - they're the ones that forced companies out of business by lowering prices so low, it cost them to produce, so work went to.china, india etc.
Big business as an entity is what will eventually kill the western world.
Well, that's my soapbox for today - BTW: I just bought my 3rd playbook !!sad_old_man and Carl Estes like this.08-03-14 07:05 PMLike 2 - once upon a time theres middle class see eh? now a days no more...they disappears...nobody is making no money see? so people use to own things and have things see.....nothing change there...except corporation did.....they created the illusion that americans still able to afford things..these things are from china...cheap things that cost zero american dollars to make...all corporations move the labour force out of the country. Because it cost too much to make in america . there's labour law...there's standard to maintain, theres too many red tapes to get things produce in america and its very very expensive....but this corporations still wants to make your money....so they have to sell in volume to make up for the low dollar value.....along the way the standard of living drop in America...essentially you pay what you get. It becomes the way of life to accept low quality because many got no money to complain anymore. It's no accident Wallymart and dollarama is springing up every 200 feet. If that fan from china cost you $50, it's going to cost a heck lot more if its made in America. Perhaps a few people rather pay for quality than quantity( you would have to keep buying if the quality is bad) , unfortunately many could not afford to pay outright or be in debt for a fan see? Many already in debts for larger items. Short of revolutionary change in america political system nothing will change in a foreseeable future....in a very long term perhaps when china , india , indonesia and the rest of the third world country catch up on standard of living equal to industrial countries things will change....but by then i think the human race will be extinct like the dinosaurs......08-03-14 08:11 PMLike 3
- Well cat, it's already starten to happen. American companies are starting to move back to rural US where labor is cheaper. I don't have a problem buying something when your comparing apples to apples, not apples to lemons. I also don't mind paying a higher price for something as long as it's worth buying, the way the market is now most of the produces are crap. Crappy furniture, toys, tools, hardware, phones computers and the list goes on. WITF do consumers put up with it. it's cheap so what if I have to purchase 5 or 6 of the same item. How is the cheaper? This is my falsity pay for it now or your going to pay for it later!
So Where did the middle class go? Well, when companies started to make money just to make money for shareholders, that's when they started outsourcing jobs to 3rd wrld countries cause its cheaper, so no one in the U.S. has a job anymore, and the middle class dropped to low income jobs and can only afford the cheap junk the companies produce so the shareholders can have more money.
Not just the U,S,, but the 'western' world is ending. Just like other regimes in the past. Power will now shift once again, probably to China or the Arabic countries cause they have the money now.08-03-14 08:37 PMLike 3 -
I'm just happy that in a couple of weeks, I'll have another playbook !!!!08-03-14 08:40 PMLike 3 - Well cat, it's already starten to happen. American companies are starting to move back to rural US where labor is cheaper. I don't have a problem buying something when your comparing apples to apples, not apples to lemons. I also don't mind paying a higher price for something as long as it's worth buying, the way the market is now most of the produces are crap. Crappy furniture, toys, tools, hardware, phones computers and the list goes on. WITF do consumers put up with it. it's cheap so what if I have to purchase 5 or 6 of the same item. How is the cheaper? This is my falsity pay for it now or your going to pay for it later!sad_old_man and Carl Estes like this.08-03-14 08:48 PMLike 2
- I saw this in a documentary : somehow, the values of the 60s (love your neighbour, don't make war) got lost in the idea of 'I can do whatever I want' which morphed into me, me, don't care about anybody else. That's when corporations (as a person, legally in the U.S.)started to become psychopaths.
So Where did the middle class go? Well, when companies started to make money just to make money for shareholders, that's when they started outsourcing jobs to 3rd wrld countries cause its cheaper, so no one in the U.S. has a job anymore, and the middle class dropped to low income jobs and can only afford the cheap junk the companies produce so the shareholders can have more money.
Not just the U,S,, but the 'western' world is ending. Just like other regimes in the past. Power will now shift once again, probably to China or the Arabic countries cause they have the money now.08-03-14 08:49 PMLike 3 - The funny thing is industry is built on Henry Fords falsity. Pay an employee a fare wage and he can purchase your products that you produce. I just haven't figured out why a company would produce a produce in a county that isn't going to buy there produces or am I wrong?sad_old_man and Carl Estes like this.08-03-14 09:09 PMLike 2
- The funny thing is industry is built on Henry Fords falsity. Pay an employee a fare wage and he can purchase your products that you produce. I just haven't figured out why a company would produce a produce in a county that isn't going to buy there produces or am I wrong?08-03-14 09:11 PMLike 3
- Hmmmm, let me see if I can figure this out? We have people that has gone the college for business and economics, let's break a customer base that purchases our products and make said produces somewhere that there is no customer base? I'm just a dumb redneck. How does that benefit the shareholders in the long term? Sorry I forgetted we life in a now society! F the long term.08-03-14 09:42 PMLike 4
- Hmmmm, let me see if I can figure this out? We have people that has gone the college for business and economics, let's break a customer base that purchases our products and make said produces somewhere that there is no customer base? I'm just a dumb redneck. How does that benefit the shareholders in the long term? Sorry I forgetted we life in a now society! F the long term.08-03-14 09:56 PMLike 4
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- Hmmmm, let me see if I can figure this out? We have people that has gone the college for business and economics, let's break a customer base that purchases our products and make said produces somewhere that there is no customer base? I'm just a dumb redneck. How does that benefit the shareholders in the long term? Sorry I forgetted we life in a now society! F the long term.
University education is just theory, very little to do with the real world. Shares and real business sometimes are two different things. One is using the other for speculation to make short term money. That's just a lazy answer from me. I'm not the expert in business nor do I understand the whole lot without reading a bunch stuff. If you look at those ceo's not many last more than five years. They are like playing musical chairs going from one company to another. To built their resume. They need to show profit to boost the share price. So the easiest and quickest way is to cut staff and their wages( getting rid of full timers, long term employees with higher wages than the newbies, cutting benefits and so on). These Ceo do not care about the longevity of the company. They do not care beyond their short term tenure. It will always be the next Ceo problem. Think of politicians coming out to take pictures with the babies every four years. they get their sign on bonus and sign off bonus see?
Posted via CB10sad_old_man and Carl Estes like this.08-03-14 10:12 PMLike 2 - For someone who claim to be a dumb duck you certainly ask a lot of loaded questions.
University education is just theory, very little to do with the real world. Shares and real business sometimes are two different things. One is using the other for speculation to make short term money. That's just a lazy answer from me. I'm not the expert in business nor do I understand the whole lot without reading a bunch stuff. If you look at those ceo's not many last more than five years. They are like playing musical chairs going from one company to another. To built their resume. They need to show profit to boost the share price. So the easiest and quickest way is to cut staff and their wages( getting rid of full timers, long term employees with higher wages than the newbies, cutting benefits and so on). These Ceo do not care about the longevity of the company. They do not care beyond their short term tenure. It will always be the next Ceo problem. Think of politicians coming out to take pictures with the babies every four years. they get their sign on bonus and sign off bonus see?
Posted via CB1008-03-14 10:28 PMLike 3 - Yup. They are well protected in the clause. Thor is not the worst example yet. Nice job if you can get it.sad_old_man and Carl Estes like this.08-03-14 10:38 PMLike 2
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- It does is shamesed mees thought that is is the only one ear that kan speek Zulu for gods sake? We're dids yous lot goes to skool eh?Carl Estes likes this.08-04-14 07:34 AMLike 1
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