[amazinglygraceless]

Success DOES NOT translate to meaningful contributions.

All of your stats supports my view that the average music listener would not know
good music if it slapped them in the face.

What exactly did Madonna do for women in pop? Not a damn thing, she never
intended to as it was and is always about her and her oversized, undeserved
ego. Simply put she bought her own press.

Fashion trends? Yeah if you are a gay male (no offense) or middle aged bridge
and tunnel cougar.

Profound effect on women? I never thought you were given to hyperbole but
here we are.

She tied Elvis. B F D, he sucked as much as she does.

I don't hate Madonna, I just think ALL of her music is crap and stand by my
assertion that she is a self absorbed, pretentious, talentless gas bag who
would be nowhere were it not for her decision to market herself as a "pop tart"

[LazyStarGazer]

AG, I'm curious. Is there an artist of any kind that you like, that more than 15 people have ever heard of?

I'm beginning to think you like obscurity for it's own sake.

[Username00089]

"Tunnel cougar." HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

[Mavis Fesselmeyer]

Success DOES NOT translate to meaningful contributions.

All of your stats supports my view that the average music listener would not know
good music if it slapped them in the face.

What exactly did Madonna do for women in pop? Not a damn thing, she never
intended to as it was and is always about her and her oversized, undeserved
ego. Simply put she bought her own press.

Fashion trends? Yeah if you are a gay male (no offense) or middle aged bridge
and tunnel cougar.

Profound effect on women? I never thought you were given to hyperbole but
here we are.

She tied Elvis. B F D, he sucked as much as she does.

I don't hate Madonna, I just think ALL of her music is crap and stand by my
assertion that she is a self absorbed, pretentious, talentless gas bag who
would be nowhere were it not for her decision to market herself as a "pop tart"

On behalf of bridge cougars everywhere, we're offended.

Ps.. What exactly is a bridge cougar??

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[username0022]

On behalf of bridge cougars everywhere, we're offended.

Ps.. What exactly is a bridge cougar??

Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com

"Tunnel cougar." HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

I believe it's "bridge AND tunnel cougar." And yes, I'm curious as to exactly what that ish is too! Haha!

[Mavis Fesselmeyer]

I believe it's "bridge AND tunnel cougar." And yes, I'm curious as to exactly what that ish is too! Haha!

Is that what they call women who squat nude over mirrors while wearing numerous rubber bracelets?

Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com

[amazinglygraceless]

AG, I'm curious. Is there an artist of any kind that you like, that more than 15 people have ever heard of?

I'm beginning to think you like obscurity for it's own sake.

Tons. Amy Grant, Parliament, Michael Jackson, Whitney Houston, Anita Baker,
Toni Braxton, Queen Latifah, Phoenix, Maroon 5, Dave Matthews Band, The
Greatful Dead, Phish,Eva Cassidy, Trace Adkins, Lyle Lovett, and on and on and on...

Yes I do like some things that are obscure, but no one can deny their talent.

What I don't like is trash masquerading as talent aka Madonna.

[xxxxpradaxxxx]

Michael Jacksons career isn't negligible, but Madonnas is?

Anyway, for your viewing pleasure:

[amazinglygraceless]

I never conferred any special merit to Michael Jackson's career, you
read that all by yourself.

But if you are comparing the two based on talent, Madonna loses all day, every day.

Your deep affinity for her has blinded you to her total lack of talent, voice, or stage
presence (which is why she distracts with dozens of dancers and other crap)

[xxxxpradaxxxx]

Your deep hatred for her has blinded you to her total contribution to pop culture, fashion,
feminine empowerment, drive for equality, and stage presence (Which is why she holds
the title for highest grossing tour of all time for female artists. 2x actually, she broke her
own record lol).

[amazinglygraceless]

Your deep hatred for her has blinded you to her total contribution to pop culture, fashion,
feminine empowerment, drive for equality, and stage presence (Which is why she holds
the title for highest grossing tour of all time for female artists. 2x actually, she broke her
own record lol).

Since you are apparently reading this from the short bus I am going to say it
one more time:

I do not hate Madonna the person. It is impossible for me to hate someone I
do not know. Simple concept unless of course one is simple.

Her contribution to pop culture is zero. Her influence on fashion is less than
that. She has empowered NO ONE and in all honesty I doubt she cares
about anyones equality (except her trophy babies)

You can quote her concert stats until your last breath and that will not
change the fact that she, the "artist" and I use that term loosely sucks.
But hey, she can take comfort in having you as a cheerleader.

[SterlingArcher]

madonna has made me the woman i am today


wait.......i have a package

[xxxxpradaxxxx]

Her contribution to pop culture is zero. Her influence on fashion is less than
that. She has empowered NO ONE and in all honesty I doubt she cares
about anyones equality (except her trophy babies)

I'm done here.

Because if I have to really explain how much she has contributed to the previously mentioned aspects of society, it would only prove how much of a close minded, opinionated, cave dweller you really are.

So whatever, make your funny little quips about the short bus and all that- I don't care.

In the end, it's your iPod.

[LazyStarGazer]

Since you are apparently reading this from the short bus I am going to say it
one more time:

I do not hate Madonna the person. It is impossible for me to hate someone I
do not know. Simple concept unless of course one is simple.

Her contribution to pop culture is zero.
Sorry, in the 80's, she WAS pop culture.

Her influence on fashion is less than
that.
In a similar vein, how old are you, because you obviously weren't there.


She has empowered NO ONE and in all honesty I doubt she cares
about anyones equality (except her trophy babies)
I'll have to disagree with you here as well. I've always thought she was a good role model in the sense that she knew how to play the game, and walk away richer. That IS empowering in a materialistic society.

You can quote her concert stats until your last breath and that will not
change the fact that she, the "artist" and I use that term loosely sucks.
But hey, she can take comfort in having you as a cheerleader.

Whether or not you or I like what an artist does, success equals talent.

[amazinglygraceless]

I'm done here.

Because if I have to really explain how much she has contributed to the previously mentioned aspects of society, it would only prove how much of a close minded, opinionated, cave dweller you really are.

Translation: Aside from my tired stats and unqualified assertions, I got nothing.

Opinionated? Why thank you. To be opinionated requires the mental acumen to think
critically and for oneself. Glad you noticed.

Cave dweller aka an actual REAL man. Again, thank you.

Thank you for playing.

Whether or not you or I like what an artist does, success equals talent.

I beg to differ. Tiny Tim, Bell Biv DeVoe, Bobby Brown, Billy Ray Cyrus, Ricky
Martin and a long list of others were successful. Talented, not so much.

[xxxxpradaxxxx]

AG it's nice to see you finally take a leap of faith and take a dump on a thread.

Its an OT rite of passage.

Now please print out the following attachment and use it to wipe your bum and clean up.

[amazinglygraceless]

I'm done here.

Well are you done or not. Make up your mind
.
Oh wait, making up ones mind is so very bourgeois (Madonna likes that word)
and is the last refuge of us real men er, um I mean cave dwellers.

[xxxxpradaxxxx]

More cute quips from the mod turned troll?

I'll be done when I retire from OT, or get a ban.

Regardless AG, I like seeing you play on my level

Now do me dirty like a real man.

[LazyStarGazer]

tal�ent�ed [tal-uh n-tid]
-adjective
1. having talent or special ability; gifted.
Origin: 1375�1425; late ME: inclined, disposed; see talent, -ed3

AG, we're not talking about levels of talent.
If they have any amount of talent, they are talented.

You are letting your feelings about the artist or their art cloud your logic.
Most of the musicians you post about in the SOTD thread do nothing for me. I don't like their music. That doesn't mean they aren't talented.

[LazyStarGazer]

More cute quips from the mod turned troll?

I'll be done when I retire from OT, or get a ban.

Regardless AG, I like seeing you play on my level

Now do me dirty like a real man.

I almost cried from laughing at this.

[amazinglygraceless]

Now do me dirty like a real man.

Not even in your dreams

What I do find funny though is the fact that you and I have always got along
quite well but the second I say a cross word about that hag you idolize you go
all nuclear. I may be opinionated but the close minded label rest squarely on you.

[amazinglygraceless]

@LSG: I do not expect anyone to like what I like. My point is that Madonna is
completely devoid of talent. She is the Howard Stern of music. Her appeal is shock
and nothing more.

As to her altruistic nature, it's total BS in my opinion. Trophy babies do not a
saint make. The rest is just noise.

[xxxxpradaxxxx]

Not even in your dreams

What I do find funny though is the fact that you and I have always got along
quite well but the second I say a cross word about that hag you idolize you go
all nuclear. I may be opinionated but the close minded label rest squarely on you.

How so?

Me being close minded to you thinking Madonna is a hag?

Or me being close minded to you thinking Madonna has no talent?

If anything, it is you who is being close minded.

Thinking that just because you can not appreciate something as subjective as someone's music, they must be labeled worthless.

It is you, who has questioned my masculinity, it is you who has laughed at my short bus status, it is you who decided to make the jump and pursue a topic I suggested not to.

I explained my side, but you decided it was not valid.

I can accept that you sincerely dislike her persona and music.

But don't discredit where credit is obviously due.

That shows close mindedness.

In the end, who decides who's worth?

PS-

I find it hilarious you think I'm going nuclear.

I'm Prada. I eat flames for breakfast lunch and dinner.

I can take the heat. I'm a senior citizen here in in OT , and on more than one occasion I've had my feet held to the fire.

Taking it with stride.

This is no different.

[amazinglygraceless]

Close minded in that you feel you must vehemently defend this over produced,
egotistical, wanna be diva to the point where you cannot tolerate dissent.
At the first word disparaging Madonna you were as reliable as Pavlov's dog.
I absolutely knew you would take the bait. Just had to ring the bell.

As to your being a senior citizen in OT, child, by comparison I am friggin Methusala.

Taking it in stride? Oh I think not. remember a few posts ago you were "done" yet
here you are still trying to make your case.

Oh by the way, what was the topic of this thread again.
I rest my case.

[xxxxpradaxxxx]

Close minded in that you feel you must vehemently defend this over produced,
egotistical, wanna be diva to the point where you cannot tolerate dissent.
At the first word disparaging Madonna you were as reliable as Pavlov's dog.
I absolutely knew you would take the bait. Just had to ring the bell.

As to your being a senior citizen in OT, child, by comparison I am friggin Methusala.

Taking it in stride? Oh I think not. remember a few posts ago you were "done" yet
here you are still trying to make your case.

Oh by the way, what was the topic of this thread again.
I rest my case.

So what, you admit to Trolling? Very mod-like of you AG!

I am taking it in stride, and as for being a MethusalaH, more like a Stormette.

Anyway, thanks for the entertainment.

/Puts the Sticky & Sweet Tour into the Blu-Ray player.

Now I can see my favorite hag in Hi-Res!