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I agree with this statement. This not only applies to CB but life in general. I have worked 5 years in property management- I know inside and out the meaning of 'behind the scenes'. Unfortunately it is human nature to say 'perception is reality'. As far as the banning goes- it should be relatively obvious why a person gets banned when they do. This is an online community where we don't interact in person. This is why there are rules. You break them you suffer the consequences. I am a firm believer in 'the gray' meaning things are usually more 'gray' then black & white. It is hard to see the gray when the posts are right in front of you in black & white- either right or wrong. I have been around long enough to see 'Hi-Def', 'Mr. Asterisk', and 'Fence'. From what I have seen none of the individuals have said anything so severe that it would allow me to understand the decision that was made. Honestly, if I have missed something I am all 'ears'. From where I stand I see three individuals who had a difference of opinion and engaged in banter with other individuals who didn't like the opposing responses. I would say that I saw some vicious banter on both sides but I never witness anything that crossed the line. Now, as you pointed out, it isn't my business to know why that decision was made but as a member of CB I find it disturbing and coincidental that these people have been banned from what appears to be pure dislike for those individuals and their points of view. Coincidence does exist in the world but don't you think more times then not the word is just a cover up for the intended truth of the matter?
Word filters aren't perfect as you pointed out and as it would appear my statement does not apply to you. I think it is obvious as to what it does apply, all you have to do is search off topic and you will find what I speak of, in fact you can look at this thread and find the purposeful misspellings meant to allude the filter.
Your analogy of a snake amuses me but I couldn't agree with you more. On the other hand, posting in other CB forums mindless posts to increase ones post count is also ridiculous. As for your 'snake' which I can only assume you are referring to Fence, I unfortunately don't follow you. I took Psych in college too and a true psychopath isn't going to reveal themselves in an online BlackBerry forum, they are much more intelligent then that. It goes back to that 'thick skin' or 'ignore feature' as many other members have stated/suggested. If someone upsets you personally, whatever the forum, here/bbm/real life, it is best to allow yourself time to rationalize the situation before you react. Impulsive reactions usually lead to regret which is never good for anyone.
Thank you for your honest opinion. As with PG, I appreciate the feedback and the healthy banter.
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03-31-09 02:43 PM - Just a quick comment with regards to banning people from forums.I agree with this statement. This not only applies to CB but life in general. I have worked 5 years in property management- I know inside and out the meaning of 'behind the scenes'. Unfortunately it is human nature to say 'perception is reality'. As far as the banning goes- it should be relatively obvious why a person gets banned when they do. This is an online community where we don't interact in person. This is why there are rules. You break them you suffer the consequences. I am a firm believer in 'the gray' meaning things are usually more 'gray' then black & white. It is hard to see the gray when the posts are right in front of you in black & white- either right or wrong. I have been around long enough to see 'Hi-Def', 'Mr. Asterisk', and 'Fence'. From what I have seen none of the individuals have said anything so severe that it would allow me to understand the decision that was made. Honestly, if I have missed something I am all 'ears'. From where I stand I see three individuals who had a difference of opinion and engaged in banter with other individuals who didn't like the opposing responses. I would say that I saw some vicious banter on both sides but I never witness anything that crossed the line. Now, as you pointed out, it isn't my business to know why that decision was made but as a member of CB I find it disturbing and coincidental that these people have been banned from what appears to be pure dislike for those individuals and their points of view. Coincidence does exist in the world but don't you think more times then not the word is just a cover up for the intended truth of the matter?
Word filters aren't perfect as you pointed out and as it would appear my statement does not apply to you. I think it is obvious as to what it does apply, all you have to do is search off topic and you will find what I speak of, in fact you can look at this thread and find the purposeful misspellings meant to allude the filter.
Your analogy of a snake amuses me but I couldn't agree with you more. On the other hand, posting in other CB forums mindless posts to increase ones post count is also ridiculous. As for your 'snake' which I can only assume you are referring to Fence, I unfortunately don't follow you. I took Psych in college too and a true psychopath isn't going to reveal themselves in an online BlackBerry forum, they are much more intelligent then that. It goes back to that 'thick skin' or 'ignore feature' as many other members have stated/suggested. If someone upsets you personally, whatever the forum, here/bbm/real life, it is best to allow yourself time to rationalize the situation before you react. Impulsive reactions usually lead to regret which is never good for anyone.
Thank you for your honest opinion. As with PG, I appreciate the feedback and the healthy banter.
You have to keep in mind that what is seen on an open forum is not the only thing that goes on. The open forum is not the only place things can happen that will get you banned either. Some of the things that can get you banned may go as far down as your IP address. For example it has been said that Fence, Hi-def and Mr. Asterisk were all one in the same and if that is the case it could be shown by his/her/it/their IP address. If that is the case, then a person who was previously banned coming back under an alternate screen name would probably get them banned again. I have been a Mod on forums and an Admin on others and this was very common. You also have to keep in mind that the things you say in private, don't always stay private. The really bad things you say in private usually come to light and those can get you banned too.03-31-09 03:15 PM - Yes the IP address thing makes sense and I can understand how someone who is banned will continue to be banned based on the IP address being the same. But the original point is why the ban? If in fact what you say is correct, that the three were one in the same, the question would go back to the original cause of the ban.... I still do not see the reasoning behind it. And as for things said in private- the forum is public and what you do in private should stay there- its no one's place to referee my personal encounters or yours, we are all adults here (well the majority). I am not emailing site support when someone on bbm (who I met on CB) offends me or I get a PM that is less then desirable. Being a chick on a predominately male forum means you are going to get those ridiculous PM's. I hate to sound like a broken record but you have to grow a thicker skin. Somethings are just better to roll off your back.
And not that it truly matters but I have created a forum, held an admin position in a forum as well as moderated a forum. Since we are all laying our credentials out there I wanted to make sure I got credit for mine.
I am thanking everyone who has responded I will continue with the good will and thank you roeod for your insightful-ness.
03-31-09 04:05 PM - Wow, I have insightful-ness! You all heard it!Yes the IP address thing makes sense and I can understand how someone who is banned will continue to be banned based on the IP address being the same. But the original point is why the ban? If in fact what you say is correct, that the three were one in the same, the question would go back to the original cause of the ban.... I still do not see the reasoning behind it. And as for things said in private- the forum is public and what you do in private should stay there- its no one's place to referee my personal encounters or yours, we are all adults here (well the majority). I am not emailing site support when someone on bbm (who I met on CB) offends me or I get a PM that is less then desirable. Being a chick on a predominately male forum means you are going to get those ridiculous PM's. I hate to sound like a broken record but you have to grow a thicker skin. Somethings are just better to roll off your back.
And not that it truly matters but I have created a forum, held an admin position in a forum as well as moderated a forum. Since we are all laying our credentials out there I wanted to make sure I got credit for mine.
I am thanking everyone who has responded I will continue with the good will and thank you roeod for your insightful-ness.
Since I cannot legitimately talk about the situation with F/H/M (ok, that is pretty funny) I can speak from my own experience online and in other forums. I had an situation on a forum where another member of the forum stated to send threatening PMs to me. He was threatening me personally along with the rest of my family. Personally I don't care where someone stands on the whole issue, when it comes to threatening someone with bodily harm then that person no longer needs to be a member of a community. I reported the issue to the Admin/mod team and that person was banned. When they came back and started it again, they received an IP ban.
IMNSHO, this is a place for fun and information. Anyone who starts down a really negative path like that does not need to be here anymore. If they don't see the need to leave, then it is up to the Mods to show them the electronic door.03-31-09 04:34 PM - Well, I'm glad it does, but it wasn't meant to be funny. I'm talking about ANYONE who uses Off-topic to tear apart people, and never add anything else. Also having socio/psychopathic tendencies doesn't exclude a person from interacting in an online community. Your take is limited to what you can see. So, if you don't see it, then accept that you don't see it...and accept that others may see it (and have seen it). I'm not trying to debate who and who isn't crazy. But if you've only seen one side, then don't assume that your perception of a situation is the only one.Your analogy of a snake amuses me but I couldn't agree with you more. On the other hand, posting in other CB forums mindless posts to increase ones post count is also ridiculous. As for your 'snake' which I can only assume you are referring to Fence, I unfortunately don't follow you. I took Psych in college too and a true psychopath isn't going to reveal themselves in an online BlackBerry forum, they are much more intelligent then that. It goes back to that 'thick skin' or 'ignore feature' as many other members have stated/suggested. If someone upsets you personally, whatever the forum, here/bbm/real life, it is best to allow yourself time to rationalize the situation before you react. Impulsive reactions usually lead to regret which is never good for anyone.
Thank you for your honest opinion. As with PG, I appreciate the feedback and the healthy banter.
Re: Thick Skins:
I don't have a problem with the community, as a whole, and find most of the people to be very nice and helpful. The level of jerks who are in residence, isn't any higher than what's found in most communities this large. Matter of fact, this community is one of the tamest I've experienced. So, maybe my skin is a little thicker than yours, but I won't tell you to toughen up (or use the ignore feature), because your perception of the situation is your reality.
Oh....and if I ban you (anyone) from my community, that means you're not wanted. Don't come back, trying to trick folks under a different name, and then start up the mess...again. In the cyber world, I call that "breaking and entering". That right there is shady, and means you should have been banned the first time.
I'm done, and thank you for letting me get that off my chest.Last edited by Tlynnsmith; 03-31-09 at 05:04 PM.
03-31-09 04:41 PM - That's right...and I bet others in the forum were like, "Why did SunRay get banned???? It's not fair! He's a cool guy and folks just don't like him!!". BTW, "SunRay" is a generic alias. I don't actually know anyone with that alias.Wow, I have insightful-ness! You all heard it!
Since I cannot legitimately talk about the situation with F/H/M (ok, that is pretty funny) I can speak from my own experience online and in other forums. I had an situation on a forum where another member of the forum stated to send threatening PMs to me. He was threatening me personally along with the rest of my family. Personally I don't care where someone stands on the whole issue, when it comes to threatening someone with bodily harm then that person no longer needs to be a member of a community. I reported the issue to the Admin/mod team and that person was banned. When they came back and started it again, they received an IP ban.
IMNSHO, this is a place for fun and information. Anyone who starts down a really negative path like that does not need to be here anymore. If they don't see the need to leave, then it is up to the Mods to show them the electronic door.
Yep, been there. I moderated in a community, and had the same problem. The member was a stellar individual, on the boards, but a demon off. They decided to get real ugly with a member (which included threats and cyber intimidation), and because of what online interaction can lead to offline, he was banned. Of course, some folks had a fit, because they thought they knew the situation, and they didn't.
There's too much going on in the world today, to just "let stuff go". Each situation has to be evaluated, and if you're not in the position to see all, you won't know all...and need to let those in charge do what they have been put in charge to do.Last edited by Tlynnsmith; 03-31-09 at 04:56 PM.
03-31-09 04:47 PM - If I wrote a book on relationships, I'd be tied to a pole and forced to watch Dr Phil or a 72 hour Lifetime network marathon...When you write the book, make sure I get a copy...
I think they already did a movie though.. "He's Just Not That Into You" ... I have not seen it, but the title fits, much too often with people settling for crappy relationships.03-31-09 09:24 PM - When Greg Behrendt wrote the book (He's Just Not That Into You), I was mad...that he made a mad load of cash, off one of the simplest books ever written. Nothing about it was revolutionary, yet so many women needed to be told that when a man cares about you, he pays attention to you, among other things. But I do know that sometimes women will receive that type of information better from a man, than from another woman.
Plus, sometimes we give bad info: "He's just busy with school", "He's just shy", "He's intimidated by your intelligence!", and a long list of other wrong answers, when the answer is: He doesn't like you...not the way you like him. Pack up, and press on.
Write the book!Last edited by Tlynnsmith; 03-31-09 at 09:38 PM.
03-31-09 09:35 PM - 110% agree. That book is pure rediculousness. Its called common senseWhen Greg Behrendt wrote the book (He's Just Not That Into You), I was mad...that he made a mad load of cash, off one of the simplest books ever written. Nothing about it was revolutionary, yet so many women needed to be told that when a man cares about you, he pays attention to you, among other things. But I do know that sometimes women will receive that type of information better from a man, than from another woman.
Plus, sometimes we give bad info: "He's just busy with school", "He's just shy", "He's intimidated by your intelligence!", and a long list of other wrong answers, when the answer is: He doesn't like you...not the way you like him. Pack up, and press on.
Write the book!04-03-09 01:28 PM - haha! well HJNTIY should have been a pamphlet....a free one at thats available in the junior high guidance counselors office.No, Thomas Paine wrote that book.
oh well.....someday I too will be laughing all the way to the bank when I finish my book "If He Takes You To His Place and Stops For Condoms Along the Way, He Wants To Have Sex With You!"
Im sure it will be a huge hit especially amongst the crowd which turn to Cosmo and Redbook to save their marriages04-03-09 01:46 PM
