1. cbreze's Avatar
    You mean the "porn" forum. The place with the "sticky" floor?

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    04-19-11 12:46 AM
  2. cbreze's Avatar
    Bob I never had problems yet with backing up 3rd party apps using DM. Did again yesterday when app loader wouldn't work. DM backed up and restored everything perfectly. (New version of DM)

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    04-19-11 12:49 AM
  3. underway99's Avatar
    How about we open a thread in the 9650 forum and call it something like "9650 Ramblin Help Center". We could post all of out technical posts there and be available to offer assistance to others as we have happily and nicely done in this thread.

    Perhaps if we did that they would move it to the "Pin" forum.
    Would that then make us all "PIN-pimps"?
    04-19-11 01:24 AM
  4. underway99's Avatar
    OK, Rehabers, I need some help here.

    I finally got around to DLing the latest QL a couple of days ago, following the reboot that QL required I promptly discovered that all of my themes were missing, before you ask what my first clue was, it was the fact that the crappi vzw zen theme was on my screen and those freaking trays were back. Went to change the theme and that was the only one there.

    I quickly discovered that BW and a bunch of other apps were missing as well. I have no idea what the F happened. I've gotten MB back and QL was not affected. Went to the Bellshare site, that's whare I got BW, and they don't have a download option like Mobi does. Sent them an email which they have not responded to.

    Then I thought I would restore all of my stuff from the last backup that I did when I installed .524. Attached my baby bold to the laptop and started BBSAK and was unplesantly surprised to find that BBSAK can't find my baby. Tried Boss, it couldn't either so I tried DM and it found it straight away. I then DL'd the lates version of BBSAK and it won't find the device either.

    So, here I am making a social post to see if anyone might be able to socially offer me some social advice on what the F do do next.
    They sure do have downloads. On your phone, go to BELLSHARE.COM. Find your app and click on LEARN MORE. Then download the app. I got my BS apps from Mobi, but I get updates direct from BS. They post the newer versions before Mobi gets them.

    As to BBSAK, I'm still using v1.7 with no complaints (and no nags, either). It keeps going and going and going. Kind of like this thread, huh? What are we up to? 14382 posts?

    Here's a link to v1.7 Driphter.com - BBSAK 1.7

    Yes, it's at Driphter's place, and I know that JayDee just got stomped for mentioning another site, but that's where I found the older version of BBSAK.
    Last edited by Underway99; 04-19-11 at 01:53 AM.
    04-19-11 01:27 AM
  5. skyboxer's Avatar
    OK, Rehabers, I need some help here.

    I finally got around to DLing the latest QL a couple of days ago, following the reboot that QL required I promptly discovered that all of my themes were missing, before you ask what my first clue was, it was the fact that the crappi vzw zen theme was on my screen and those freaking trays were back. Went to change the theme and that was the only one there.

    I quickly discovered that BW and a bunch of other apps were missing as well. I have no idea what the F happened. I've gotten MB back and QL was not affected. Went to the Bellshare site, that's whare I got BW, and they don't have a download option like Mobi does. Sent them an email which they have not responded to.

    Then I thought I would restore all of my stuff from the last backup that I did when I installed .524. Attached my baby bold to the laptop and started BBSAK and was unplesantly surprised to find that BBSAK can't find my baby. Tried Boss, it couldn't either so I tried DM and it found it straight away. I then DL'd the lates version of BBSAK and it won't find the device either.

    So, here I am making a social post to see if anyone might be able to socially offer me some social advice on what the F do do next.
    I had the same thing happen to me a few weeks ago. I blamed the memory cleaning feature of OS6 but others have no problem with it so I'm not sure. Anyway I turned off the memory cleaning. It thankfully hasn't happened again. Let's not let the JuJu loose again!

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    04-19-11 03:19 AM
  6. middbrew's Avatar
    OK, Rehabers, I need some help here.

    I finally got around to DLing the latest QL a couple of days ago, following the reboot that QL required I promptly discovered that all of my themes were missing, before you ask what my first clue was, it was the fact that the crappi vzw zen theme was on my screen and those freaking trays were back. Went to change the theme and that was the only one there.

    I quickly discovered that BW and a bunch of other apps were missing as well. I have no idea what the F happened. I've gotten MB back and QL was not affected. Went to the Bellshare site, that's whare I got BW, and they don't have a download option like Mobi does. Sent them an email which they have not responded to.

    Then I thought I would restore all of my stuff from the last backup that I did when I installed .524. Attached my baby bold to the laptop and started BBSAK and was unplesantly surprised to find that BBSAK can't find my baby. Tried Boss, it couldn't either so I tried DM and it found it straight away. I then DL'd the lates version of BBSAK and it won't find the device either.

    So, here I am making a social post to see if anyone might be able to socially offer me some social advice on what the F do do next.
    I'm having the same issue since upgrading DM. I basically have to shut down and restart the computer to be able to use BB BOSS or BBSAK. Even then it is hit or miss.
    04-19-11 07:06 AM
  7. hamsterwheel's Avatar
    Morning Ramblers!

    Bob, I agree with everything you said, and thanks for putting it into words for us.

    I've still been using BBSAK with no issues, but then again I have not installed the the new DM. Maybe I will do that today and see if I get the same issue as everyone else.

    I'm in the mood to shrink again. God help me.
    04-19-11 08:04 AM
  8. jaydee5799's Avatar
    good mornin my Rambler friends!
    As I told Hamster on bbm last night, I came dfown with a bad bout of bronchitis on my vacation and spent part of the first day in the ER here in Maine. I have meds to take but I am afraid I am very sick. Extremely sick. Sicker than I have been in quite a long time. I'm not sure if I need to go back to ER or beg to be put in hospital.

    Say a prayer for me please.
    Am trying to enjoy my vacation, but when you are as sick as I am, it is tough.
    04-19-11 09:27 AM
  9. ThePinkChameleon's Avatar
    good mornin my Rambler friends!
    As I told Hamster on bbm last night, I came dfown with a bad bout of bronchitis on my vacation and spent part of the first day in the ER here in Maine. I have meds to take but I am afraid I am very sick. Extremely sick. Sicker than I have been in quite a long time. I'm not sure if I need to go back to ER or beg to be put in hospital.

    Say a prayer for me please.
    Am trying to enjoy my vacation, but when you are as sick as I am, it is tough.
    Ohh no Jaydee! I hope you start to feel better soon, bronchitis is no joke. Rest & take in plenty of fluids to push the meds thru your body to get rid of it. You will def be in my thoughts girlie.

    I'm so sorry to hear how sick you are, plz Keep us updated on how your doing and if you need to go back to the hospital, go quickly - the last thing you want is this turnin to pneumonia
    04-19-11 09:48 AM
  10. ThePinkChameleon's Avatar
    Bob, everything you've said was very nicely put. I couldn't agree with it more

    As for all these issues you guys are having with upgrading DM and BbSak not recognizing the bb anymore, I'm gonna stay with the DM I have. I have a headache today the size of Canada! 2 tylenol and a comfy couch is where i'll be spending my day, maybe a little posting too. My BbSak is working fine as well.

    Bob, IDK if this is an option, I read what happ'd with your dm & ql upgrade and loosing your themes, app etc. Could you downgrade your DM back to what you had and see if that will work? IDK if you'd want to do that tho. Just a suggestion



    04-19-11 09:56 AM
  11. Branta's Avatar
    I'm going to have to disagree with you on what you have said about the content of this thread. Yes, we are a bit social in that we have all become friends over the last year and almost a half; however, we spend a lot of time helping one another with issues, questions and what not about how to do things with our Bold 9650s. We have had quite a few new CB folks that have come to us asking questions as they become familiar with their new devices, we do all we can to help them learn. We often have posts that report strange occurances and ask for advice from our fellow ramblers on what might be the solution or if they have seen a similar situation.

    Personally, I have found that there is as much or more knowledge hanging out in this thread than most of what I see in the other threads in the 9650 forum. I also see the ramblers taking their knowledge that they gained in this thread and offering help to others in the 9650 forum.

    If one were to carefull puruse the posts since the 9650 dropped I believe that one would find that the number of posts that are helpful, educational and technically oriented will outweigh the "Social" posts by a large margin. I would grant that it would be a huge task considering the number of posts in the thread; however, I'm convinced as are other ramblers that this would be the outcome of an evaluation.

    I will also state that I think the huge majority of posts deal with the 9650, the forum that the thread was in, and not other devices. We do get folks that wander into the forum and ask about other devices in many threads, not only this one.

    Just my $.02 FWIW, not much I'm sure.
    I think I have failed to explain clearly so there is still confusion.

    First, the history of the move... Several mods had noticed the drift to off-topic content in the past and some posted a reminder. Maybe the drift was reversed for a few days but the overall trend has continued toward social content. For whatever reasons none of the mods ever followed up until a few members started a campaign of harassment against a new member. This prompted a wider look at their posting activity and this thread was viewed by many mods. At that stage it was not simply one or two mods... most of the team, all acting independently, formed the same opinion and the question was referred to Forum Managers.

    To put it on the record, at least one of the harassers had been warned in the past after similar campaigns against others. He quite reasonably got some time away from the forums to reflect on the merits of his actions and the other most active harasser got a warning which should leave no doubt that such activity is not acceptable. With hindsight I made a bad decision. I did not know I was dealing with a teacher, who would already be aware of the problems caused by harassment and bullying. If I had known this before the warning was issued there is no doubt I would have made a different decision and there would have been two bans imposed. All I can say now is, I hope is that none of our members have kids unlucky enough to be at a school where staff think bullying is acceptable. I have experienced it and seen the impact on victims - not nice, and staff tolerance was directly responsible for the death of one of my classmates many years ago.

    So there you have it. bad behavior by a few members was the direct reason why moderators finally gave this thread the attention it needed for so long.
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    04-19-11 10:14 AM
  12. BigBadWulf's Avatar
    How about we open a thread in the 9650 forum and call it something like "9650 Ramblin Help Center". We could post all of out technical posts there and be available to offer assistance to others as we have happily and nicely done in this thread.

    Perhaps if we did that they would move it to the "Pin" forum.
    This is exactly one of the main reasons the thread was moved. Let me explain a few things for you all, as there's been a lot of speculation, and suspicion posted recently, but little fact.

    This thread has been mostly social for a long time. It really should have been moved nearly a year ago, as the StormTroopers got a lot of theirs shifted to off topic. That being said, Bob, your post creates a scenario I want to paint a picture of, so you all understand.

    Imagine CrackBerry as you've just envisioned it. One huge thread for each device. How useful would that be for those that don't live on it? The amount of searching and sifting required would make CrackBerry the laughing stock of the BlackBerry world. The only ones to come here would be you folks, and what help would that be.

    Now, I came here a few times recently to try and help, and to try and steer this thread on topic. Each time I was ignored by most, and ridiculed by some. So much for a welcome party. Let's look at some facts, that I can point to over just the last few days. It seems that none of you know how to make a 3rd party backup using DM., nor how to restore one made by any 3rd party app properly. I'll happily explain it properly later. Underway, cbreze, would you ever have gotten King's hybrid installed from help on this thread? I think not. Got the picture yet?

    What this thread has become, is a source for gossip, innuendo, theme sharing, app sharing, and very little knowledge sharing. It's also become a vehicle to leech traffic to BlackBerry Empire, and that needs to stop ASAP.

    Threads should be about a specific topic, where people can go to have a good discussion, share knowledge, and yes, have some fun sometimes when the moment arises. There's been a lot of assumption that this has become personal. That comes from a total lack of understanding of how this site operates. If you think any thread gets moved, let alone one of this magnitude, based on the personal feelings by a moderator or two, you are delusional.

    Now, can this thread please focus on what it's become, a fun place for a handful of members to hang out, and all the belly aching and bomb throwing end?

    Thank you one and all,
    Ed
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    04-19-11 10:15 AM
  13. underway99's Avatar
    I'm using the newest DM and the older BBSAK with no problems so far. I would next uninstall DM and your BB utilities, reboot and run the registry cleaner, and reinstall.

    As to your phone, did you lose data along with your apps? And was it all the apps, like a wipe? Updating running apps on this phone has been hit and miss for me. Apps like QL, which worm their way into every corner of the phone can be especially troublesome. I lost an app (I can't recall which one) once when I updated QL, but I figured it was just one of those things. I thought perhaps the app was running when QL updated and either grabbed a shared file or wanted the memory space the other app had already claimed. I've learned to delete apps before I update them. It's especially easy with the ones that have the backup and restore settings feature.

    Get well, JayDee. We need you to keep things moving around here, what with Paul still on his extended hiatus.
    04-19-11 10:36 AM
  14. Branta's Avatar
    Last Chance

    While writing my response to Bob I looked at some recent posts in this thread. I noticed about 30 inappropriate, insulting, and derisive references to another member who is not able to defend himself.

    Fortunately each poster has the right to edit their own posts. Please edit or delete your posts as appropriate to remove all offensive references to "Norli" - and that doesn't mean minor tweaks so the exact name is not there, it means remove the entire reference if it is offensive or hurtful. I will allow 24 hours for action, from the time I post this. After that time moderators may act without further warning against any remaining offending content, and a lenient response is by no means guaranteed.

    http://forums.crackberry.com/f39/bas...r-conduct-114/
    Play Nice, Be Helpful, and have Respect!

    This means keep the language clean, keep your posts polite, and don’t get into arguments over dumb things. If somebody responds to a thread you posted in poor fashion, ignore it, and the moderation team will quickly clean it up (you can always message or email a moderator at any time if you observe anything that is in poor taste/against the rules). Think back to what your parentals and teachers used to lecture - if you don't have something nice to say, don't say anything at all.

    Always remember that we are all unique and at different levels here - some of us are experienced BlackBerry users and forum junkies, while others are just starting out. If you’re on the experienced side, have patience for those just joining in on the fun and be helpful. With a little patience and a little help they won’t be newbies for long. Also remember that it is our differences that keeps this place interesting. If everyone was from the same place and at the same experience level it would be boring. This is a worldwide community united by a common interest - our love, or addiction as some would call it, for the BlackBerry!
    http://forums.crackberry.com/f39/pos...uidelines-113/
    Do not flame, insult or post personal attacks against other users. Be courteous, not rude. Any instances or reports of harassment of members will be treated seriously. CrackBerry.com has a zero tolerance policy against this kind of behavior, which may result with an immediate temporary or permanent ban at moderators' discretion.
    04-19-11 10:37 AM
  15. cbreze's Avatar
    Best wishes for a speedy recovery Jaydee. Never fun being sick, but being sick away from home is the worst. I'd send you some good ol' Arizona sunshine if I could, to warm you. I will have you in my thoughts and send some positive energy your way. I hope your on the mend very soon. Please post when you can.

    Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com
    04-19-11 10:49 AM
  16. jaydee5799's Avatar
    Guys, went back to page 932 of this thread approximately and started editing my posts.You might want to start around there to conform with the posts above.

    Oh and to the mods who posted...
    thanks for the clarification. We could have used that from the beginning.
    It might have been appropriate when we were first moved. Anyway, the details are nice to know. Now we all know why it was moved.
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    04-19-11 11:02 AM
  17. BigBadWulf's Avatar
    For those of you having trouble backing up/restoring 3rd party apps, here's how I do it.

    If I'm just making a backup, but not upgrading, I follow CX's method:

    http://forums.crackberry.com/f3/how-...cations-53201/

    As long as DM connects, it will never fail.

    Now, if I'm upgrading, I do much the same, but during the upgrade process. Using loader.exe, the first step it does is make a database backup, so that's always golden. Next step in the process is a 3rd party backup, which also never seems to fail. When the 3rd party backup is complete, and before the upgrade is over, use the same search technique for your pin #, COPY the folder, don't dare cut it, then paste it in a safe location you can find. I have one folder in My Documents labeled 3rd Party Backups (I know, I'm so creative ), and paste it in there. Then I rename it, and add the date to the title, so I can easily keep track.

    As far as restoring them, no matter what the method for backing them up, I would use DM's Application Loader. Browse to the alx file in the backup you want to restore from, and all the apps included in that folder will now become available for installation. Hope that helps ya'll out.
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    04-19-11 11:42 AM
  18. ThePinkChameleon's Avatar
    Hamster, hows the mem leak issue you were having back when you installed BB Protect, did you fig out what was making it leak more that usual?

    Also, the white reflection rose, i can't remember which thread you posted it in, do you? I'd like to grab a copy of it also TY doll!
    If you don't rem, could you PM it to me if its not too much trouble, whenever you get time no rush.
    04-19-11 11:44 AM
  19. jaydee5799's Avatar
    For those of you having trouble backing up/restoring 3rd party apps, here's how I do it.

    If I'm just making a backup, but not upgrading, I follow CX's method:

    http://forums.crackberry.com/f3/how-...cations-53201/

    As long as DM connects, it will never fail.

    Now, if I'm upgrading, I do much the same, but during the upgrade process. Using loader.exe, the first step it does is make a database backup, so that's always golden. Next step in the process is a 3rd party backup, which also never seems to fail. When the 3rd party backup is complete, and before the upgrade is over, use the same search technique for your pin #, COPY the folder, don't dare cut it, then paste it in a safe location you can find. I have one folder in My Documents labeled 3rd Party Backups (I know, I'm so creative ), and paste it in there. Then I rename it, and add the date to the title, so I can easily keep track.

    As far as restoring them, no matter what the method for backing them up, I would use DM's Application Loader. Browse to the alx file in the backup you want to restore from, and all the apps included in that folder will now become available for installation. Hope that helps ya'll out.
    Thanks Wulf. I can't remember who was having trouble with this but this is what I do. HOWEVER, I never reinstall the whole backup, just pick off cods and do them individually through BBSAK...
    04-19-11 11:55 AM
  20. runkle55's Avatar
    Time to share some ignorance and offer an apology after reading the mod's comments. My use of the name norli some time back was done with the assumption it was slang for newbie. Poking fun at myself by using the term was a dumb idea. If norli is out there some where, my apologies to you.
    04-19-11 12:32 PM
  21. jaydee5799's Avatar
    Time to share some ignorance and offer an apology after reading the mod's comments. My use of the name norli some time back was done with the assumption it was slang for newbie. Poking fun at myself by using the term was a dumb idea. If norli is out there some where, my apologies to you.
    Runkle,
    He is stilled banned for his part in the harassment.
    Just go back through your posts like the mods asked and remove references.
    Last edited by jaydee5799; 04-19-11 at 12:46 PM.
    04-19-11 12:40 PM
  22. cbreze's Avatar
    @ Big Bad Wulf and Branta, Thanks for the clarification. I have removed all my posts(3) that contained any reference to that aforementioned issue.

    Wulf, as for Dm backups. I've never had much issue using that method. Quick and easy and also very reliable has been my experience. I recommend it as I'm a firm believer in "easy".
    Last edited by cbreze; 04-19-11 at 01:48 PM.
    04-19-11 01:41 PM
  23. hamsterwheel's Avatar
    Hamster, hows the mem leak issue you were having back when you installed BB Protect, did you fig out what was making it leak more that usual?

    Also, the white reflection rose, i can't remember which thread you posted it in, do you? I'd like to grab a copy of it also TY doll!
    If you don't rem, could you PM it to me if its not too much trouble, whenever you get time no rush.
    P1nk, still hovering around 30 mb in 24hrs period, of course it is slightly less if I don't change theme,bw,battex often. I deleted fancy characters and it did seem to help a bit. As for BB Protect...I like the app, I don't what it could be,all of a sudden

    If it is the tulip one I used in reflex, yes, I'll pm it to you no problem.

    @ Jaydee - I hope, really hope you feel better soon Sorry you feel so bad...sending hugs and prayers you way.

    @ the mods...thx for the clarification and apologies extended. I've also removed reference in all posts.
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    04-19-11 01:57 PM
  24. underway99's Avatar
    I didn't find very many that could be considered questionable, perhaps four or five. At any rate, they're altered or gone.
    04-19-11 02:08 PM
  25. cbreze's Avatar
    Hamster/Pink and anybody with the memory leak issues. I just made a huge revelation. My memory leaks also, however the auto recovery system thats in os6 restores it each time before it drops below 82%. So it's a non issue. Why not for you as well?
    04-19-11 02:10 PM
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