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I also have found that DM does not always restore all of my third-party aps. I use BBSAK to back up each app so that I can restore them individually if I cannot find them OTA, and because BBSAK loads them all as a single app, so I cannot delete just one from my phone (it shows as "BBSAK backup" or something on the Application Manager screen). APPLOADER normally restores all of my apps and data when I let it. Having said that, make sure you have a new data backup before you start.
I would expect your new phone to have 431 preloaded, but there may still be some in their inventory with the last OS5 build. If you get one of those, I'd wipe and load 431. Get a fresh copy direct from VZW and load all of it. No shrink -- in fact, I wouldn't even open up any of the shrink tools after installing the new copy of 431. Remember that you can delete the languages and such from the phone after you select ENGLISH on startup. I would use APPLOADER to load just the OS, then I'd reload my apps OTA. You can add back your themes later with APPLOADER.
If I correctly recall, you use Google or Yahoo or something to keep your contacts and memos, right? If so, I would not even restore your PIM data from your backup, but sync directly to the PIM vendor to restore your data. If you keep it locally on your PC, sync it with your new phone and let it make a new PIM database.
Is Big Red sending replacement guns along with the phone?
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03-07-11 10:17 AM - Underway, Thanks for the info. For my "downgrade today" I also used a clean copy of 431 downloaded from VZW. I did shrink tho. I will take your advice, and that of many before you, and NOT shrink anything if it comes with OS5. Using APPLOADER for the OS I get, go into the folder start Loader.exe and then it will load the only OS i have on my PC, right?
I would expect your new phone to have 431 preloaded, but there may still be some in their inventory with the last OS5 build. If you get one of those, I'd wipe and load 431. Get a fresh copy direct from VZW and load all of it. No shrink -- in fact, I wouldn't even open up any of the shrink tools after installing the new copy of 431. Remember that you can delete the languages and such from the phone after you select ENGLISH on startup. I would use APPLOADER to load just the OS, then I'd reload my apps OTA. You can add back your themes later with APPLOADER.
If I correctly recall, you use Google or Yahoo or something to keep your contacts and memos, right? If so, I would not even restore your PIM data from your backup, but sync directly to the PIM vendor to restore your data. If you keep it locally on your PC, sync it with your new phone and let it make a new PIM database.
Is Big Red sending replacement guns along with the phone?
I do have Google mail but do not want to let it sync my contacts. I got duplicates when I did that once. Both my home and work email is on Google and I don't want all my work emails being synced to my phone... So i will do a very selective restore...but please...which choice is for BBM contacts?
And one more thing, not to sound ignorant but how would I load themes with Apploader again? I have the alx and cod files...I always used DM. If I open apploader...how does it know where the themes are??? How do I give it the path?
I have to be late after work tomorrow, too so it seems like it's gonna be a long night! Guns and tonics on the house!!!03-07-11 10:47 AM -
I agree with rr for the bbm contacts. Once you get them loaded back on via DM and you get everything else sorted out, take a few moments to set up remote back up for bbm with an email associated with your bb. This way if in the future you need to reload bbm contacts, you simply go into the bbm menu and prompt for a remote back up. depending on how many contacts you have, it could take about 10mins or so to restore it that way. I've had to use it once about a year ago and it worked wonderfully.
03-07-11 01:46 PM - I agree with rr for the bbm contacts. Once you get them loaded back on via DM and you get everything else sorted out, take a few moments to set up remote back up for bbm with an email associated with your bb. This way if in the future you need to reload bbm contacts, you simply go into the bbm menu and prompt for a remote back up. depending on how many contacts you have, it could take about 10mins or so to restore it that way. I've had to use it once about a year ago and it worked wonderfully.
Guys,
I appreciate your help, but unfortunately, this isn't my first rodeo!
lol
I DID use backup just as you suggested for BBM this morning and every time I tried a different email address FROM WHICH to load my contacts, it said there was no bbm account associated with this email. It did this for all 7 email addresses I have registered!!!!
That's why I am asking WHAT TO DO. I seemed to hit it lucky when, after doing just a selective restore, I said the **** with it and did a complete restore of my device data I had made this morning and then all my contacts reappeared.
I have made a backup copy on my card, which is great advice and I have re-registered my email addresses. So I appreciate that advice, too. I am just worried that I don't know which file to selectively restore from the .ipd for bbm contacts. Does anyone know?03-07-11 03:53 PM - Hey guys and gals!!!
What themes do you use on a daily basis on your 9650?
I want to write about some other themes but am not sure which to purchase. What have you bought that you really like?
Some themers are not so accommodating when asking for a free theme.
So I guess I will have to start purchasing. So give me some ideas on which ones to try. OTHER than Al3azim's because I have all of those, as you all do!!! LOL
Essex, Hamster and Pink, I'm really counting on you guys to help me out. Give me theme names to research...
Skyboxer, you use some too, right? I'd appreciate ideas from anyone who wants to share theme titles.
Thanks!
03-07-11 05:34 PM - Hey guys and gals!!!
What themes do you use on a daily basis on your 9650?
I want to write about some other themes but am not sure which to purchase. What have you bought that you really like?
Some themers are not so accommodating when asking for a free theme. So I guess I will have to start purchasing. So give me some ideas on which ones to try. OTHER than Al3azim's because I have all of those, as you all do!!! LOL
Essex, Hamster and Pink, I'm really counting on you guys to help me out. Give me theme names to research...
Skyboxer, you use some too, right? I'd appreciate ideas from anyone who wants to share theme titles.
Thanks!
First, I don't understand why these developers would not want to provide you with a copy in return for free publicity?
That makes no sense to me.
Having said that, I have Sheath by Pootermobile and it is very nice, and runs smooth. I think he has several that are good.
BB Gloss by BBT looks very nice though I have not purchased it yet - I'm very tempted though..
Another one that I think looks good and has cool functionality is Ciel by Raypho..
And I do have one from Tatooz- it was free though
Hope that helps!
Just thought of another one that has caught my eye - buufduece..Last edited by hamsterwheel; 03-07-11 at 06:02 PM.
03-07-11 05:42 PM - I have this one ^ and like it,
however I prefer simple and plain more than this one is. I usually make one with a solid black background and a large colored clock. put a couple ocd slots for calendar and battery. This way I can use a wp of my choice easier. I'm different I guess because I don't like that row of icons at the bottom and don't like the pop up tray popping up either, just access everything from QL.(hey, a 2key press) I delete all from the top bar except my larger clock which I put a bit lower and left side. Use vorino battery icon for one ocd and cal app showing the date on the other ocd. No sig bars, nothing else on the top. I finish it with a nice weather display on the right using DeToday(has more color options)
So onscreen I can see my clock, battery meter and date icon. Anything else I want to see I just press menu key and it's all at the top. Pretty spartan and not for everybody or anybody maybe, but I love it. I'd post a quick pic but my wp's such that I might get a reprimand or worse.
I'll change the wp later and post up a screenie.
EDIT:
Green/blue are my 2 favs. The 2 icons on the left are permanent as well as the clock, as they are burned into the theme. The blue frame around the battery can be made to go away, I just forgot. Unfortunately the GPS icon upper right is non removable AFAIK. The weather on the right is DeToday's weather app. I like it better than the Beweather wallpaper as it has more font options including colors. It's also easier to move around. The center is a wp, otherwise it'd be solid black except for the sides. I removed my preferred wp to avoid controversy. I like black as this is a blackberry and the housing being black and all it just adds to the ambiance imho. Like I said it's not for everybody. The inner pages are lots of rich greens and blues with some sedona red thrown in for backgrounds. I'd post it and love to share but I haven't figured out how to do that. My bad. Maybe RR will give me some pointers on posting.Last edited by cbreze; 03-07-11 at 06:47 PM.
03-07-11 06:15 PM - Jim, you make themes??!I have this one ^ and like it,
however I prefer simple and plain more than this one is. I usually make one with a solid black background and a large colored clock. put a couple ocd slots for calendar and battery. This way I can use a wp of my choice easier. I'm different I guess because I don't like that row of icons at the bottom and don't like the pop up tray popping up either, just access everything from QL.(hey, a 2key press) I delete all from the top bar except my larger clock which I put a bit lower and left side. Use vorino battery icon for one ocd and cal app showing the date on the other ocd. No sig bars, nothing else on the top. I finish it with a nice weather display on the right using DeToday(has more color options)
So onscreen I can see my clock, battery meter and date icon. Anything else I want to see I just press menu key and it's all at the top. Pretty spartan and not for everybody or anybody maybe, but I love it. I'd post a quick pic but my wp's such that I might get a reprimand or worse.
I'll change the wp later and post up a screenie.
Lol! I've become a theme junkie!
But I too do like them simple - that is why I like al3's - pretty clean and very smooth and functional. I don't need that many icons on the home screen either...
Can't wait to see your screenie...now you must show us the one you don't want to show us03-07-11 06:20 PM - Hmm, Although I know his stuff looks interesting, I have written to him about a free copy and never heard back. I will try again I guess, although I see he has been written about in Berryfication and so probably doesn't care about me. I am going to exhaust themer's generosity before I start buying I think...so I may go back to him.
I don't want any of these themes for myself...I just want to review them. Al3azim's themes are all I need. They do everything you mentioned above, too. They are the cleanest, most functional out there. Oh and they're free!
But thanks for the ideas. I will write again to him and see what he can do for me....03-07-11 06:40 PM - I like the elite tech themes, available in multiple colors. Its not wallpaper friendly but it is incredibly functional. And I have a couple from DReW. He really knows how to skin a menu!Hey guys and gals!!!
What themes do you use on a daily basis on your 9650?
I want to write about some other themes but am not sure which to purchase. What have you bought that you really like?
Some themers are not so accommodating when asking for a free theme. So I guess I will have to start purchasing. So give me some ideas on which ones to try. OTHER than Al3azim's because I have all of those, as you all do!!! LOL
Essex, Hamster and Pink, I'm really counting on you guys to help me out. Give me theme names to research...
Skyboxer, you use some too, right? I'd appreciate ideas from anyone who wants to share theme titles.
Thanks!
Posted from my CrackBerry at wapforums.crackberry.com03-07-11 07:20 PM - Write about themes? What am I missing here? Did you go off and do something crazy while I was in hidding for a week or two?Hey guys and gals!!!
What themes do you use on a daily basis on your 9650?
I want to write about some other themes but am not sure which to purchase. What have you bought that you really like?
Some themers are not so accommodating when asking for a free theme. So I guess I will have to start purchasing. So give me some ideas on which ones to try. OTHER than Al3azim's because I have all of those, as you all do!!! LOL
Essex, Hamster and Pink, I'm really counting on you guys to help me out. Give me theme names to research...
Skyboxer, you use some too, right? I'd appreciate ideas from anyone who wants to share theme titles.
Thanks!
03-07-11 07:58 PM
