View Poll Results: Rock the Vote 2008
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Obama
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McCain
94 36.58% -
Undecided still
13 5.06%
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To my knowledge, the US imposes more tariffs on Chinese imports than China does on US imports.The point about Communist China is that we need to level the playing field. When a country, any country has barriers in place through tariffs and restrictive importation rules that keep us from exporting goods to them and reducing the trade imbalance, we need to respond in kind. Of course one must be realistic -- if one can only get a needed product from one source, one has no other choice
. But as Obama points out, why should we have a tax policy that rewards those who move production to other countries?
As for the tax policy, it's merely a matter of wording. I can just as easily say that we shouldn't have a tax policy that punishes those who wish to take advantage of foreign markets.
That's all good except that every president since Nixon has been saying the same thing. It's just not that easy. The problem is that oil is relatively cheap. The best way to make alternative fuels economically viable is to tax the **** out of oil but that's political suicide.
You paid for your own private education instead of benefiting from public education? That is impressive.
Oh well in that case, we should exempt Warren entirely! How about we tax only those who don't own a business? Imagine all the jobs that would create! Who cares if the rich don't pay any taxes? Isn't it better that they create more jobs?
I can just as easily flip it around. The poor and middle class create jobs. Somebody has to grow the food that they buy, make the clothes that they wear, run the transportation that they use... Punishing them won't help anybody else get rich.
And also, Warren's taxes don't just disappear. They are used to build roads and schools. That creates jobs. Taxation is merely a redistribution of resources. It doesn't destroy resources.
As I stated before, an appeal to "fairness" is always a loser. Fairness is relative. One could say that anybody paying a single dollar less than me in taxes, renders the system unfair. Why should I pay $10,000 and someone else pay $500? Government is the only service where we pay according to income instead of a flat fee. A flat percentage tax is still socialism under your definition of the word because the rich pay more in absolute dollars and the poor benefit disproportionately.
Likewise, one can also say that it's unfair that the rich pay the same percentage as the middle class because the rich enjoy a diminishing utility of their income-dollars thereby making 10% less burdensome to part with than a middle class family's 10%.
The take-away is that the system of taxation is normative. The fallacy of many on the right is the notion that there is some golden standard of "fair" taxation.10-24-08 03:00 PM - But fact checker isn't the only one saying the rumor is false -- Snoopes, who many Republicans cited to prove Barack's wife said bad things about our country:
snopes.com: Barack Obama Birth Certificate
And I suggest McCain is less qualified to be president because Article two of the constitution states that "no person except a natural born citizen...shall be eligible to the Office of president." Panama is not the United States. Looks like McCain and Obama will be in court and Obama is more likely to win. IMO
Want to read interesting stuff about McCain not being eligible, read the stuff at this site and tell me mcCain is eligible:
Citizen McCain - Fact Checker10-24-08 03:02 PM -
Read the above, aces, actually Article four is quite clear on the subject. Glad you know the law. There is no record of McCain being born on US property while being born in Panama. And, it doesn't matter what your parent's nationality is -- place of birth is what counts.Last edited by exelant; 10-24-08 at 03:20 PM.
10-24-08 03:06 PM - I'm only talking about fair Yeahman, and I do believe you're wrong about China's trade policies. A number of years ago, Chrysler wanted to export Jeeps to China. They actually required them to build a factory there and hire Chinese to build them. Talk about transfer of technology!. I understand anecdotes do not prove an argument, but it's the best I can do spur of the moment, lol.
On the oil subject, maybe it is a pipe dream, but it is not unrealistic to change oil/energy policy with the right president. I prefer to be optimistic as opposed to giving up on it happening.10-24-08 03:13 PM - When all is said and done, our country needs true change and a new direction. Obama is the only one that can provide this. Will the change be good? Only time will tell. However one thing is for sure. McCain is more of the same, which our nation cannot endure. Sometimes we have to just be willing to try a new approach. Now is that time. I hope we can turn things around in the years to come because we are in turmoil. If John prevails, he will indeed need to be the "maverick" he claims to be. We'll soon find out.
10-26-08 12:49 PM
