1. spARTacus's Avatar
    Is there an end? No clear cut goal in sight?
    666666
    10-03-20 07:07 AM
  2. spARTacus's Avatar
    Here's a suggestion: If anyone feels motivated to respond to anyone else's opinion based post, then do so. However, keep the responses short. Break them up across multiple posts with each one conveying or commenting on only a single focused thought, point, position or argument.
    10-03-20 07:16 AM
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    That way things better contribute to the flow and goal of the thread, and also more constructive debate.
    10-03-20 07:18 AM
  4. spARTacus's Avatar
    ....we all need to do "you do you" and don't worry about what others do so much....
    As long as when people do that it doesn't enfringe upon the rights of others (or seem like it will eventually enfringe upon the rights of others), and as long as it doesn't enfringe (or seem like it will eventually enfringe) on the collective overall human and global responsibilities we all have as individuals and nations on this same planet and in this same universe we all exist in, then fine.
    10-03-20 07:32 AM
  5. spARTacus's Avatar
    Coffee Time.
    10-03-20 07:34 AM
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    Koffie Koffie
    10-03-20 07:38 AM
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    lekker bakkie koffie
    10-03-20 07:40 AM
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    Wat knapt de mens daarvan op
    10-03-20 07:40 AM
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    As long as when people do that it doesn't enfringe upon the rights of others (or seem like it will eventually enfringe upon the rights of others), and as long as it doesn't enfringe (or seem like it will eventually enfringe) on the collective overall human and global responsibilities we all have as individuals and nations on this same planet and in this same universe we all exist in, then fine.
    That’s more or less what I’m saying. Unfortunately sovereign nations do have different objectives, goals and responsibilities to it’s citizens. I’m not referring to just USA or Canada in this context. So while I’d like peace, harmony, rainbows and puppy dog tails, it’s not a probable expectation.
    10-03-20 07:51 AM
  10. spARTacus's Avatar
    ...Unfortunately sovereign nations do have different objectives, goals and responsibilities to it’s citizens....So while I’d like peace, harmony, rainbows and puppy dog tails, it’s not a probable expectation.
    Agree, and that's also why sometimes nations go to war with each other, or why within nations there is civil war.
    10-03-20 07:54 AM
  11. Chuck Finley69's Avatar
    I'm happy for you in that you can find humour in another 1000+ Covfefe-19 related deaths in America today.
    Not humorous but just part of the deaths we deal with every year for a variable of reasons. It eventually happens. We’re all dying from the moment of birth. That’s not even just a human thing.
    10-03-20 07:55 AM
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    Not humorous but just part of the deaths we deal with every year for a variable of reasons. It eventually happens. We’re all dying from the moment of birth. That’s not even just a human thing.
    I follow your logic Chuck, but I think even you'd agree that where human death can reasonably be prevented then actions to prevent such should be taken.
    Last edited by spARTacus; 10-03-20 at 09:00 AM. Reason: Edited back, because original wording was already quoted.
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    10-03-20 08:25 AM
  13. Chuck Finley69's Avatar
    I follow your logic Chuck, but I think even you'd agree that where human death can reasonably be prevented then actions to prevent such should be taken.
    No different than regular flu, seatbelts, texting while driving and so forth. I believe in seatbelts, short reply texts while stopped at red lights and I don’t usually don’t get flu shots annually.

    I’m pretty much like everyone around me here. We take precautions but we have population density in our country
    10-03-20 08:54 AM
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    Texting while stopped doesn't impact anyone else (in my opinion). Texting while driving I think infringes on potential injury and death to others.
    10-03-20 09:02 AM
  15. spARTacus's Avatar
    Not wearing seatbelts doesn't directly impact others. However, increased risk of injury to self from not wearing seatbelts has potential to add strain and costs on the system, and depending on the system/model, has potential to indirectly impacts others due to increased costs that now have to be shared also by others (eg: for policing, emergency response/recovery, health care, insurance, etc...).
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    10-03-20 09:07 AM
  16. spARTacus's Avatar
    Not getting flu shots has potential impact to others, unless one stays completely isolated from others.
    10-03-20 09:08 AM
  17. spARTacus's Avatar
    I am assuming most people agree that COVID-19 is a fair bit different than regular flu.
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    10-03-20 09:09 AM
  18. spARTacus's Avatar
    I don't regularly get annual flu shots either.
    10-03-20 09:10 AM
  19. spARTacus's Avatar
    I don't regularly get annual flu shots either.
    ..didn't. This year is different. Aggressive flu shot campaigns in Ontario is aiming this year to reduce strain on the Ontario Health Care system, to ensure there is enough capacity for COVID-19, and to reduce the number of flu issues that would otherwise be confused mixed in with possible COVID-19.
    Last edited by spARTacus; 10-03-20 at 09:21 AM. Reason: Spelling
    10-03-20 09:13 AM
  20. Chuck Finley69's Avatar
    I don't regularly get annual flu shots either.
    But that’s my point. I’ve been treating as really bad flu. I’m at moderate risk. I had minimal to moderate asthma that required medication as kid but not inhalers. Now I’m 50, average health, fully aware that I suffered minimal but some lung damage as young person from 4-13 years old.

    I also had mild SARS back in 2009 but it lasted for me off and on about 6-8 months. The really sick part was about ten days, the breathing and coughing issues lasted for rest of 6-8 months.

    But I haven’t stopped pushing my luck.
    10-03-20 09:19 AM
  21. MB64's Avatar
    Thought this was a biography of trump and his team :
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    10-03-20 09:19 AM
  22. MB64's Avatar
    Good morning boys and girls
    10-03-20 09:20 AM
  23. MB64's Avatar
    Wake me up when we talk about other things besides politics
    10-03-20 09:21 AM
  24. spARTacus's Avatar
    Wake me up when we talk about other things besides politics
    I don't see any political talk in the last several posts.
    10-03-20 09:22 AM
  25. spARTacus's Avatar
    Wake me up when we talk about other things besides politics
    ...other than the grenade you just tossed in.
    10-03-20 09:23 AM
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