1. spARTacus's Avatar
    The difference on how the U.S. and Canada are handling Covfefe-19. This is at Niagara Falls. The ship with 6 people in red on it was not launched from the American side...
    An example of two extremes. No need for the restrictions on the Canadian operator to be as extreme as they are....and, silly that the US operator isn't required to put in place mechanisms to ensure that 100percent of the space on the boat is used by the 50percent passenger load limit in a spread out manner.
    Last edited by spARTacus; 07-24-20 at 07:42 PM.
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  2. spARTacus's Avatar
    How can they stay in business like that?
    Perhaps government subsidy. I wouldn't think they'd be making money with that few passengers.
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    07-24-20 07:12 PM
  3. spARTacus's Avatar
    When you have flattened the Covfefe-19 curve some things don't need to be done. My city of 800,000 has 7 active cases and nobody hospitalized.
    ...wait for it. The spike in cases I suspect will be here in Canada soon also. Too many people think it's over and are letting things get too loose (in my opinion)
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    07-24-20 07:14 PM
  4. spARTacus's Avatar
    What’s false in my reply. I clearly see about 9-10X the number of people on the other boat. That’s all I was simply commenting. Like the USA over Canadian population. Simple math.
    Made sense to me. Only thing maybe wrong with it as a real analogy is the size of the Canadian boat (too big).
    07-24-20 07:15 PM
  5. spARTacus's Avatar
    Dinner is undecided. We’re really dropping the ball lately.
    ...and maybe getting hungry also.
    07-24-20 07:17 PM
  6. spARTacus's Avatar
    I actually get along quite well with the rabbits. Leads back to about 10 years ago when I saved a baby from being eaten by my dog. I've actually had Mama rabbits bring their young to the Shed-Bo and leave them with me to babysit. I'm not joking!
    Couple of my kids were looking out their window one winter day:
    - Oh look, there's a rabbit. Hmmm, what's that thing over there. Hey, it's going towards the rabbit. Hey what's it doing? Hey that thing is attacking the rabbit! Hey its killing it!!!
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    07-24-20 07:22 PM
  7. spARTacus's Avatar
    Sorry, can't resist, should have gone Moe!
    Mufarow Moe!

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    07-24-20 07:44 PM
  8. anon(10694483)'s Avatar
    One thing that really impressed me this week was the Manitoba government releasing plans for Phase 4 reopening. There were things in those plans that were upsetting to a lot of us. Plans included opening the borders to all Canadian provinces (including your province) and not asking for a 14 day self isolation. Also was to allow for churches to operate at 50% along with casinos at 50%. Crowds were to be 100 inside, 250 outside instead of 50/75.

    When I spoke about being impressed is that before enacting the plan we had a telephone town hall and also a survey on line that was open to all to participate. After 2 days of voting results led the government to stop the increase in gathering size, the border remains closed to free for all travel, churches limited to 30% and the casino brought down to 30%. Democracy at work. From home.
    ...wait for it. The spike in cases I suspect will be here in Canada soon also. Too many people think it's over and are letting things get too loose (in my opinion)
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    07-24-20 08:10 PM
  9. anon(10694483)'s Avatar
    Paddled up to Matawa
    Mufarow Moe!

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    07-24-20 08:10 PM
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    Couple of my kids were looking out their window one winter day:
    - Oh look, there's a rabbit. Hmmm, what's that thing over there. Hey, it's going towards the rabbit. Hey what's it doing? Hey that thing is attacking the rabbit! Hey its killing it!!!
    07-24-20 08:11 PM
  11. anon(10694483)'s Avatar
    The maid of the mist (U.S.) has a capacity of 600. The hornblower has a capacity of 700. So there are over 200 people aboard the American ship, 6 on the Canadian ship. How anybody can come up with math that somehow relates to populations versus group limits such as in this case has some issues. I suggest he take the same Montreal Alzheimer's assessment that Trump took and brags about
    Made sense to me. Only thing maybe wrong with it as a real analogy is the size of the Canadian boat (too big).
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    07-24-20 08:33 PM
  12. anon(10694483)'s Avatar
    Dinner is undecided. We’re really dropping the ball lately.
    Tried the Taco Bell Double Quesarito tonight. It wasn't too bad.... Good job ZeeThe CB 1M post Challenge!-taco-bell-double-beef-quesarito.jpeg
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    07-24-20 08:40 PM
  13. misterabrasive's Avatar
    Government of the people, by the people and for the people. Won't ever work here anymore.
    One thing that really impressed me this week was the Manitoba government releasing plans for Phase 4 reopening. There were things in those plans that were upsetting to a lot of us. Plans included opening the borders to all Canadian provinces (including your province) and not asking for a 14 day self isolation. Also was to allow for churches to operate at 50% along with casinos at 50%. Crowds were to be 100 inside, 250 outside instead of 50/75.

    When I spoke about being impressed is that before enacting the plan we had a telephone town hall and also a survey on line that was open to all to participate. After 2 days of voting results led the government to stop the increase in gathering size, the border remains closed to free for all travel, churches limited to 30% and the casino brought down to 30%. Democracy at work. From home.
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    07-24-20 08:52 PM
  14. anon(10694483)'s Avatar
    Careful...you may be accused of association with a "socialist". Funny how that works eh?
    Government of the people, by the people and for the people. Won't ever work here anymore.
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    07-24-20 09:01 PM
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    Oh, that is one of the mild words that gets bandied about around these parts.
    Careful...you may be accused of association with a "socialist". Funny how that works eh?
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    07-24-20 09:11 PM
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    The maid of the mist (U.S.) has a capacity of 600. The hornblower has a capacity of 700. So there are over 200 people aboard the American ship, 6 on the Canadian ship. How anybody can come up with math that somehow relates to populations versus group limits such as in this case has some issues. I suggest he take the same Montreal Alzheimer's assessment that Trump took and brags about Click image for larger version. 

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    I wasn't being that literal.
    07-24-20 09:19 PM
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    Mufarow Moe!

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    07-24-20 09:29 PM
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    Mosquitoes are horrendous tonight. Supposed to start fogging our area tomorrow night
    07-24-20 10:01 PM
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    Tomato plant #2 guardian update The CB 1M post Challenge!-img_20200724_214239.jpeg
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    This forum has now had over 18 million views. Congrats everyone!
    07-25-20 12:59 AM
  21. spARTacus's Avatar
    One thing that really impressed me this week was....Democracy at work...
    Governments in Canada are playing a fine line balancing act with the COVID thing. They know that if they make restrictions too harsh or for too long then many people will ignore or revolt and ignore them, and then they will be forced to be the bad guy and have to try to enforce, or simply be viewed with less popularity. Then there is also the economic consequences of the COVID slow down, which no governments like. Regardless of the growing numbers in the US, the Manitoba government was probably not really wanting to ease restrictions, but probably felt that if they didn't then people would revolt. The initial plans they came up with they had probably mainly come up with weeks ago, as a means of pleasing the people, even though they didn't really want to implement them. So, to avoid the responsibility of a though call, they heavily consulted. Then, regardless of decision they'd be able to at least partially have the populace have responsibility for the outcome. They were probably quite pleased with the populace desire to not ease restrictions as far as they had intended, because it probably aligned close to what they wanted to do in the first place, but we're slightly afraid to do. It's good all around. The populace feels like they had a say, the government gets to share the responsibility (and blame), and the outcome is better rather than worse. However, that approach is often not suitable. I knew someone that always said "...know what a camel is? It's a horse designed by committee...". I think the point of that saying was basically that committees have their places but can't be used for everything. Governments need to also have the balls to make tough calls by themselves, when no one will like the decisions, simply because the decision is the right decision and the populace is too naive (or too self interested).

    I am glad it worked out well for you guys.
    07-25-20 08:10 AM
  22. misterabrasive's Avatar
    Phew! Feeling a bit long-winded this morning aren't you?
    Governments in Canada are playing a fine line balancing act with the COVID thing. They know that if they make restrictions too harsh or for too long then many people will ignore or revolt and ignore them, and then they will be forced to be the bad guy and have to try to enforce, or simply be viewed with less popularity. Then there is also the economic consequences of the COVID slow down, which no governments like. Regardless of the growing numbers in the US, the Manitoba government was probably not really wanting to ease restrictions, but probably felt that if they didn't then people would revolt. The initial plans they came up with they had probably mainly come up with weeks ago, as a means of pleasing the people, even though they didn't really want to implement them. So, to avoid the responsibility of a though call, they heavily consulted. Then, regardless of decision they'd be able to at least partially have the populace have responsibility for the outcome. They were probably quite pleased with the populace desire to not ease restrictions as far as they had intended, because it probably aligned close to what they wanted to do in the first place, but we're slightly afraid to do. It's good all around. The populace feels like they had a say, the government gets to share the responsibility (and blame), and the outcome is better rather than worse. However, that approach is often not suitable. I knew someone that always said "...know what a camel is? It's a horse designed by committee...". I think the point of that saying was basically that committees have their places but can't be used for everything. Governments need to also have the balls to make tough calls by themselves, when no one will like the decisions, simply because the decision is the right decision and the populace is too naive (or too self interested).

    I am glad it worked out well for you guys.
    07-25-20 08:15 AM
  23. spARTacus's Avatar
    The maid of the mist (U.S.) has a capacity of 600. The hornblower has a capacity of 700. So there are over 200 people aboard the American ship, 6 on the Canadian ship. How anybody can come up with math that somehow relates to populations versus group limits such as in this case has some issues. I suggest he take the same Montreal Alzheimer's assessment that Trump took and brags about
    Unless I completely missed the boat (mind the pun...), Chuck had made an analogy not an analysis, one that I thought was pretty dead on. I hadn't counted the people in the picture to try to figure out if it was mathematically accurate. That was irrelevant for me. I also hadn't interpreted any political inference.
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    07-25-20 08:17 AM
  24. spARTacus's Avatar
    Phew! Feeling a bit long-winded this morning aren't you?
    Too much coffee.
    07-25-20 08:19 AM
  25. spARTacus's Avatar
    Maybe time for the coffee song?
    07-25-20 08:19 AM
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