- I think Best Buy made a mistake. They're clearly talking about themselves.
I never recommend Best Buy to anyone unless their willing to pay the "ignorant tax" on their purchases.
I don't want to say that the professional and courteous etiquette is all but dead in retail, but if you look at the society in general you figure out why that is.
And no, it's not an age thing.07-06-12 11:31 AMLike 0 -
Sent from my SGH-I747M using Tapatalk 2pantlesspenguin likes this.07-06-12 11:34 AMLike 1 - I think Best Buy made a mistake. They're clearly talking about themselves.
I never recommend Best Buy to anyone unless their willing to pay the "ignorant tax" on their purchases.
I don't want to say that the professional and courteous etiquette is all but dead in retail, but if you look at the society in general you figure out why that is.
And no, it's not an age thing.
I'm always polite to a customer. Always. End of story. However, I do admit to a couple of times reacting to being ignored when I ask if I can help or answer questions and have some man put his hand in my face and beeline for a male staffer (it happens at least once a week) to ask them a question about their cell phone. My male coworkers are great, they will always defer back to me and say "Renee is the one to ask about that" and I'd be lying if I didn't admit to occasionally saying "I don't know, I'm just a know nothing woman who should be in the kitchen, but I'll sure try to answer this for you" ...
The worst thing that ever happened was the saying "the customer is always right" - it led to a complete lack of common human decency on the part of a segment of customers who think that means they can treat retail staff like rabid animals and we aren't allowed to react. The worst I ever saw was a guy who berated a trainee cashier into tears. He demanded to see a supervisor and I was the responder (this was years ago). He then told me how slow and stupid she was and she's sitting there in tears. In looked at him and finally said "did it make you feel like a man to make a 16 year old girl cry? You feel like a master of the universe now?" when he demanded MY manager, he came down and threw him out of the store and banned him when I said what happened.
I love this attitude that all store staff are playthings to toy with. Sure get them fired because they don't like your frigging cell phone. That's manly and reasonable.
Grow up. /rant
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The point that I'm trying to get at is that their job is match people up with phones. A salesperson probably only reads the headlines "RIM stock drops XX%", "BB7 devices EOL'd" and thinks he's doing you a favor by pointing you towards something different.
Whining to a manager about the anti-BlackBerry salesman is definitely not going to get him fired. In fact you'd probably be the angry customer he's laughing with all of his coworkers about.
If you want salespeople to recommend BlackBerry then you should show them some of the unique things BlackBerrys can do and maybe they'll have a change of heart. Being that annoying customer who throws a fit to the managers portrays BlackBerry users in a negative light.Laura Knotek and pantlesspenguin like this.07-06-12 12:16 PMLike 2 - Well he was just doing his job. And granny is pretty happy with her new iPhone. (Videochatting with my 93 year old Grandma was something I never thought would happen)
The point that I'm trying to get at is that their job is match people up with phones. A salesperson probably only reads the headlines "RIM stock drops XX%", "BB7 devices EOL'd" and thinks he's doing you a favor by pointing you towards something different.
Whining to a manager about the anti-BlackBerry salesman is definitely not going to get him fired. In fact you'd probably be the angry customer he's laughing with all of his coworkers about.
If you want salespeople to recommend BlackBerry then you should show them some of the unique things BlackBerrys can do and maybe they'll have a change of heart. Being that annoying customer who throws a fit to the managers portrays BlackBerry users in a negative light.07-06-12 12:21 PMLike 0 - Whining to the manager is not the best way to get results. Now contacting Best Buy corporate with complaints about the employee and the smarta$$ manager ... Well, I doubt anyone in that store will be laughing about it.07-06-12 12:21 PMLike 0
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He didn't like my cell phone? He thought Android phones were better than BlackBerrys?
Unless the employee was incredibly rude to you then contacting the corporate office is a waste of their time and yours.reeneebob likes this.07-06-12 12:33 PMLike 1 - When i went in to my Best Buy store in Milton, ontario, the sales guys were both using 9900. They both were telling a customer that for email the BB cant be beat and if you wanted a toy go with iphone or android. I was surprised but glad they were honest as opposed to Rogers store which was a show;07-06-12 12:44 PMLike 0
- smh at people wanting people fired for recommending another phone. If you really want a product, someone else's opinion probably isnt going to change that.
Some of you people really make this site an very irritating experience and im glad the mods have started banning...07-06-12 03:59 PMLike 0 - But think of the majority of people who go in to get cell phones. They go in and say "Yeah gimme that Droid iPhone thing." At that point the salesperson should indeed step in and ask the customer what they're looking for in a device. When someone comes in and says "I'd like to buy the BlackBerry Bold 9930, please" and the sales rep starts in with "Well, actually you might have better luck with..." then the customer could respond back with "Look, I've been using BlackBerry for X years, I've done my research on what BB7 is bringing to the table, and I know this phone will fit my needs perfectly. Now kindly bring me my new phone."jonno_atamaniuk likes this.07-06-12 04:15 PMLike 1
- Maybe RIM should step in and help fix the issue where stores that they let sell their producsts are bad mouthing it. Of course they wont get to everyone, but if it bothers some of you so much, write a letter/email to RIM, let them know about it, and let them deal with it.07-06-12 04:20 PMLike 0
- Your emails are bigger than 11MB on average??
The following is a list of new features being introduced with BlackBerry Internet Service 4.1:
Improved large email and native attachment support
Subscribers using BlackBerry smartphones with BlackBerry� 6 and BlackBerry� 7 installed can:
receive email messages that are up to 11MB in size
download attachments in their original format that are up to 8MB in size
view up to 300KB in an HTML email message
RIM limits your email in ways no other platform does. This limits the size of your emails and prevents you from getting large attachments. They get a kickback from the carriers for doing it because it limits the customers' use of data. So yes, in some ways Blackberry email is inferior, right now, today.07-06-12 05:54 PMLike 0 - It's funny because I'm a girl so everyone assumes I know nothing about cell phones. LOL
I always start with "What do you want to be able to use your cell for?" and go from there. I'll ask "Do you need a physical keyboard or are you comfortable with a touchscreen?", "Do you send and receive a lot of email, are you using it for work as well?" - stuff like that. If they say they like a lot of app selection, I'll ask what kind of apps. I will ask if they say they have a lot of music if they have an iPod - that way if they have any paid apps they can share them on an iPhone if that would best suit their other requirements.
We end up with a lot of the Futureshop or other stores sales coming to us for help with the phone because they can't get help from where they bought it and they were sold the entirely wrong phone for them. It's frustrating.
I agree with you about a lack of help from the big-box stores. I work at... well not really a "big box store" but we're not a corporate store either technically... and the number of people I personally help with their phones (regardless of make or carrier) is astounding! I honestly feel like certain carriers don't care one little bit about making sure the client knows how to use their phone, and the same goes for the big-box stores too. I hope the whole teaching a client how to use their phone thing changes soon, so people are more informed about their devices, how to use them properly, and have fewer complaints about an over-sized bill when they accidentally do something on the web that they didn't mean to :P.reeneebob likes this.07-06-12 07:19 PMLike 1 - Maybe RIM should step in and help fix the issue where stores that they let sell their producsts are bad mouthing it. Of course they wont get to everyone, but if it bothers some of you so much, write a letter/email to RIM, let them know about it, and let them deal with it.
Sent from my iPhone 4S using Tapatalk07-06-12 07:27 PMLike 0 - Salespeople not recommending BlackBerrys? What else is new?
They probably don't want to deal with people coming back and whining about how they aren't getting BB10 or how their favorite apps aren't in app world. These are employees who are trying to make a lasting sale and there's nothing wrong with them giving advice.
There are still reasons to recommend a BlackBerry device over some of the latest and greatest devices, and some of them are in direct contrast to what people believe the carriers are after. Perhaps it's helpful that I don't get paid a bonus depending what phone I sell and therefore have no additional reasoning to sell someone an Android phone or an iPhone over a BlackBerry, but even if I did I don't care about that. I care about a client getting a device that will serve them well for the period that they have their phone. Sometimes it's a BlackBerry. Sometimes it's an iPhone. Sometimes it's a Samsung Galaxy phone. Sometimes it's an HTC. Sometimes, believe it or not, it's a flip-phone!
If I sell someone a BlackBerry when they're really wanting the absolute best media experience, while they may learn to be happy with it, they'll probably never come back to me for their next phone no matter what the situation is. Same deal if I sell someone the SGSIII when what they really need is a basic, simple phone to make the occasional phone call in case of an emergency. On the other hand, if I listen to my client and find out what they need their phone to do, and put into their hand the device that will do what they need and want time and again, they're not going to care about anything other than the fact that I listened, got them exactly what they were looking for, and possibly even helped them learn more about that phone than they originally knew. THAT will have them coming back to me time and again, not only for me to answer questions about their phone, but also to buy their next one when either their term is up and they have a renewal offer, or their phone breaks and they need something to replace it.07-06-12 07:34 PMLike 3 - But think of the majority of people who go in to get cell phones. They go in and say "Yeah gimme that Droid iPhone thing." At that point the salesperson should indeed step in and ask the customer what they're looking for in a device. When someone comes in and says "I'd like to buy the BlackBerry Bold 9930, please" and the sales rep starts in with "Well, actually you might have better luck with..." then the customer could respond back with "Look, I've been using BlackBerry for X years, I've done my research on what BB7 is bringing to the table, and I know this phone will fit my needs perfectly. Now kindly bring me my new phone."07-06-12 07:41 PMLike 0
- Maybe RIM should step in and help fix the issue where stores that they let sell their producsts are bad mouthing it. Of course they wont get to everyone, but if it bothers some of you so much, write a letter/email to RIM, let them know about it, and let them deal with it.07-06-12 07:53 PMLike 0
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They do however have marketing/sales agreements with Best Buy as an authorized dealer and I suspect the agreements outline how RIM's products and product information are presented to potential customers. In other words, I doubt a sales person disparaging their products is in bounds. Best case it's unprofessional and unethical.07-06-12 07:54 PMLike 0 - You are correct!
They do however have marketing/sales agreements with Best Buy as an authorized dealer and I suspect the agreements outline how RIM's products and product information are presented to potential customers. In other words, I doubt a sales person disparaging their products is in bounds. Best case it's unprofessional and unethical.07-06-12 08:13 PMLike 0 - So disparaging or misrepresenting a product is ok then? Competition is a good thing we agree on that, but I believe you missed my point with all due respect.jonno_atamaniuk likes this.07-06-12 08:27 PMLike 1
- How about RIM asking its employees to visit retail stores and act as blackberry advocates? Nokia is doing something like that.
"Under this plan, more than 1,000 North American employees have signed up to go to outlets selling Nokia phones, such as an AT&T store at a shopping mall. The effort has spanned from Tuscaloosa, Ala., to Chicago.
Employees are usually armed with food and coffee, and work to bond with sales people and interact with potential phone buyers. Conversations often turn to the breadth of Nokia's apps, such as its navigation system, which comes free with the phone.
In some stores, such as a nearby T-Mobile store, Nokia staff would find their Lumia 710 smartphone had already been moved off the main display despite being a relatively new entrant in the market. In this store, phones from Samsung Electronics Co. 005930.SE -2.03% and HTC Corp. get the most prominent placement."
Nokia Late to the Silicon Valley Party - WSJ.com07-06-12 09:15 PMLike 0 -
It happens for cars, computers, gaming systems...you name it.
What do you consider the clerk said that was disparaging? Perhaps I missed it.07-06-12 09:56 PMLike 0 - Read the initial post by the OP.
For reference from Merriam Webster.
disparage
1: to lower in rank or reputation : degrade
2: to depreciate by indirect means (as invidious comparison) : speak slightingly about
IMO good selling is focusing on a given prouct's strong points as a reason to buy it and not on what you think are another products negative ones, especially when you don't have your facts straight. But that's just my view of things.07-06-12 10:39 PMLike 0 - Well, looks like they're letting 2500 people go, maybe he's one of them
It seems to be a big trend now, jobs going everywhere07-07-12 02:14 AMLike 0
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