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Bwaa haa. Now that is funny, however, it's funny because it's so sad! They same joke was used for Tyson... and Ike Turner.
If anyone DOESN'T see the similarities here between Givens and Tyson, you just aren't old enough. There are a hundred other examples. Tina Turner anyone?
The psychology of a battered partner, sadly, can be summed up in two words and a phrase from a song. The words are: Dependency and Fear. The phrase is, "The more you suffer, the more it shows you really care."
The fear isn't necessarily of the partner, either. It's fear of the unknown WITHOUT the partner. It's fear of abandonment. It's fear of making mistakes that their parents made. It's fear of hurting the partner more than the partner hurt them (as in, if I leave them, it will hurt them more than they are hurting me, and I won't do that to them like they did to me... )
Everyone makes their own decisions. If she stays with him and he never does this again and turns his life around and they are happy... we will all be saying, wow... amazing turn around. Look at all they made it through. But statistically, that won't happen...
And yes, he needs to be sufficiently "punished" in order to see that what he did has consequences, but that's not our job... its HIS job. She can't make him see how terrible it is to do violence to the one you love and the public can't either...
Inside, many celebrities are just scared little kids that get told every day how "cool" they are by everyone around them and all the $$$ they make..
ok ok ok... / soapbox.
03-01-09 11:37 AM - lol. You two need to sit down before what I am about to describe comes to life in the inter-webs...
Indeed. You haven't read a word I have said if you think there is EVER justification for what he did.
You can never ever hit another adult (or child for that matter) unless it is in defense of your life. Nobody can "provoke" you to hit them. Try using that one in court.
Your honor, he just told me I was a weak, worthless limp wimp until I had to hit him and break his jaw.
Judgement: Plaintiff in the amount of $30,000 for medical bills and time off work caused by getting his jaw broke by the defendant.
Abusers always try to find justification for what they have done. She always criticizes me, he is always yelling and crying, etc etc etc...
Justification is the FIRST step in abuse.03-01-09 01:03 PM - Self defense is to protect yourself under any circumstances not just protecting your life. What will get you in trouble is to what extreme you go too. If a man breaks into your home and you beat him up you were within your rights to protect your home but if you bet him and break both his legs and beat him up it went fro defending and protecting your home to excessive force and torture.lol. You two need to sit down before what I am about to describe comes to life in the inter-webs...
Indeed. You haven't read a word I have said if you think there is EVER justification for what he did.
You can never ever hit another adult (or child for that matter) unless it is in defense of your life. Nobody can "provoke" you to hit them. Try using that one in court.
Your honor, he just told me I was a weak, worthless limp wimp until I had to hit him and break his jaw.
Judgement: Plaintiff in the amount of $30,000 for medical bills and time off work caused by getting his jaw broke by the defendant.
Abusers always try to find justification for what they have done. She always criticizes me, he is always yelling and crying, etc etc etc...
Justification is the FIRST step in abuse.03-01-09 01:10 PM
