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  1. anon(9721108)'s Avatar
    Hey thanks for the links !
    Already have 2 of your last options.

    When I put the battery on in doesn't show anything on the readout ( it should show the level of power remaining )
    When plugged into wall it doesn't do anything.
    ( I kept it in all night to make sure )

    Also in device there is no red led or anything else happening.

    Btw , battery was 2011.
    Had it for a year.
    Ah I see you tried a wall charger, disregard my last post
    02-23-17 02:43 PM
  2. kb7sqi's Avatar
    Today I decided try my AT&T Bold 9900 again. I'm happy to report that it's running perfectly this time around! Looks like it just took some persistance. :-)

    Steve
    mushroom_daddy and Frehley like this.
    02-23-17 09:40 PM
  3. Nguyen1's Avatar
    I hate that if I turn my passport completely off, the battery will still drain to zero while doing nothing in a drawer.

    I love that if I take the battery out of my 9930, it'll still be ready for use at any time with no discernible loss of battery juice.

    And that battery, with my level of usage, still lasts me days. A whole week, even, sometimes.
    02-23-17 09:53 PM
  4. anon(9721108)'s Avatar
    I think I read on a tech site that lithium-ion loses about 2% every day even if it's turned off
    02-24-17 12:44 AM
  5. mushroom_daddy's Avatar
    My original (2012) leather pouch is getting a bit battered so I've just ordered one of these to match my shiny 'new' 9900

    BlackBerry Leather Pocket Pouch for Bold 9930/9900 - Black Genuine / ACC-38857-201
    9900:Resurgence of popularity!-screenshot_372.jpg

    02-24-17 07:58 AM
  6. Michniks's Avatar
    My original (2012) leather pouch is getting a bit battered so I've just ordered one of these to match my shiny 'new' 9900

    BlackBerry Leather Pocket Pouch for Bold 9930/9900 - Black Genuine / ACC-38857-201
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    Yes, and this leather pocket is 10000x nice looking than any ugly skin or bumber on other phones...!
    02-24-17 08:21 AM
  7. Frehley's Avatar
    I received my New in Box 9900 today...the box is still shrink wrapped. How can I tell when it was made? The only date I see on the box is a AT&T copyright of 2012. Could this be one of the 2014 re-releases?

    Got it for $99 on eBay and the seller included a new leather swivel holster. Can't wait to get it activated!


    Posted via CB10
    02-24-17 01:28 PM
  8. Nguyen1's Avatar
    I think I read on a tech site that lithium-ion loses about 2% every day even if it's turned off
    My burner android phone disagrees with that. When off, nothing happens.

    My old cdma phone turned on just fine after 3 years of zero usage with near full battery.

    But something about the passport, I dunno... it consumes battery no matter what.
    02-24-17 05:02 PM
  9. anon(9721108)'s Avatar
    My burner android phone disagrees with that. When off, nothing happens.

    My old cdma phone turned on just fine after 3 years of zero usage with near full battery.

    But something about the passport, I dunno... it consumes battery no matter what.
    Lithium ion batteries are also supposed to be more affected by age than useage. Typically losing about 20-25% efficiency every year. If that's true then LI batteries should only last a few years before they have to be replaced. But I also had my original 9780 battery defy logic and it lasted for 6 years, BUT it would drain a lot faster than when batteries are newer.

    Probably also depends on the size of the battery and smaller JM1's probably MIGHT show their age more than say.....a 3000 Mah Android glass slab.

    -sent from a beautiful Bold 9900
    02-24-17 05:48 PM
  10. anon(9721108)'s Avatar
    My original (2012) leather pouch is getting a bit battered so I've just ordered one of these to match my shiny 'new' 9900

    BlackBerry Leather Pocket Pouch for Bold 9930/9900 - Black Genuine / ACC-38857-201
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    I got a white pouch when I got the 9780, never really understood where or when I would use it. I always viewed it as a "pain in the arse" obstacle when I had to quickly answer or make a phone call

    I do however like the belt clip holsters in winter, under a jacket but in summer I wear cargo shorts/pants and that's where it goes......

    -sent from a beautiful Bold 9900
    02-24-17 05:50 PM
  11. anon(9721108)'s Avatar
    I received my New in Box 9900 today...the box is still shrink wrapped. How can I tell when it was made? The only date I see on the box is a AT&T copyright of 2012. Could this be one of the 2014 re-releases?

    Got it for $99 on eBay and the seller included a new leather swivel holster. Can't wait to get it activated!


    Posted via CB10
    If the original box there should be a double digit for the year and a month, if I recall from the box I had always kept from my 9780. It will be near where it says "Mexico 4" or whatever plant it was made......

    -sent from a beautiful Bold 9900
    02-24-17 05:52 PM
  12. anon(9721108)'s Avatar
    My burner android phone disagrees with that. When off, nothing happens.

    My old cdma phone turned on just fine after 3 years of zero usage with near full battery.

    But something about the passport, I dunno... it consumes battery no matter what.
    According to this a lithium ion loses about 5% every day from self discharge even when turned off from what I understand, but then other articles mention you can store a lithium ion battery for about eight or 10 years if put two about 50%. If it's charged to 100% and then stored, supposedly that could damage it. So who knows. I guess other things like temperature could affect it also…quality of the materials, etc

    http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/a...self_discharge
    02-24-17 06:03 PM
  13. EFats's Avatar
    According to this a lithium ion loses about 5% every day from self discharge even when turned off from what I understand, but then other articles mention you can store a lithium ion battery for about eight or 10 years if put two about 50%. If it's charged to 100% and then stored, supposedly that could damage it. So who knows. I guess other things like temperature could affect it also…quality of the materials, etc

    http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/a...self_discharge
    Well, I would disagree based on my experience. I've got about 8 BlackBerry devices. Other than the problematic Passport SE, all of them hold charge very well. Z30, PlayBook, they are all happy to sit well above 90% for many months.

    It has to be ridiculous, even my Passport SE will last over 2 weeks when it is ON! (Standby of course)

    If you read that article carefully, it is 5% for first 24 hrs then 1-2% per MONTH after that. The drop is not constant.
    02-24-17 06:19 PM
  14. Frehley's Avatar
    The box indicates "Handheld made in Mexico 6"...no other markings
    02-24-17 06:39 PM
  15. anon(9721108)'s Avatar
    Well, I would disagree based on my experience. I've got about 8 BlackBerry devices. Other than the problematic Passport SE, all of them hold charge very well. Z30, PlayBook, they are all happy to sit well above 90% for many months.

    It has to be ridiculous, even my Passport SE will last over 2 weeks when it is ON! (Standby of course)

    If you read that article carefully, it is 5% for first 24 hrs then 1-2% per MONTH after that. The drop is not constant.
    My point to Nguyen was that there IS SOME DISCHARGE. He said there was none.

    All of my devices even my point-and-shoot cameras with lithium ion batteries when completely shut off still discharge a little.

    Also since I mentioned that some batteries can last 8 to 10 years just from sitting and not discharge too much, (from the article) this means we are both not "wrong" in these observations.

    Supposedly batteries from the factory are stored with about 40 to 60% full because they anticipate they will be sitting on a shelf before purchased for weeks or months and you don't want battery damage. Some of the batteries I have got for the 9900 have been the red x, and depleted so bad that some cannot be recovered. Since they usually don't ship batteries completely empty, The fact that some are beyond recovery proves there is a level of discharge.
    02-24-17 11:59 PM
  16. anon(9721108)'s Avatar
    The box indicates "Handheld made in Mexico 6"...no other markings
    Here is what I'm talking about, the typical box on a 9930 or 9900 usually looks like this. Or similar to my 9780. You can see the production date on this is 2014.

    Maybe they repackaged yours in a plain box or something.9900:Resurgence of popularity!-img_1488003582.829990.jpg
    02-25-17 12:19 AM
  17. Nguyen1's Avatar
    I guess the best thing to do is just charge up loose batteries periodically, even if not in use. Better safe than sorry.

    I'll rue the day when there are no more working replaceable batteries for our beloved legacy devices.
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    02-25-17 03:15 AM
  18. mushroom_daddy's Avatar
    I got a white pouch when I got the 9780, never really understood where or when I would use it. I always viewed it as a "pain in the arse" obstacle when I had to quickly answer or make a phone call

    I do however like the belt clip holsters in winter, under a jacket but in summer I wear cargo shorts/pants and that's where it goes......
    For me this is the best case, protecting my Bold but allowing me to use and enjoy the device in all its 'naked glory'.

    My 9900 spends a lot of time in my pockets or getting pushed into a rucksack or my work case. Never suffered a scratch from keys or money etc. The magnet function on BlackBerry holsters are great at prolonging battery life, auto -ending -answering calls etc. This pocket case has also protected my earlier 9900 from several substantial drops, perhaps not as significant as those handed out by idssteve but bad enough to dink & dent the chassis, or worse.

    What works for one will not necessarily suit all and I accept that others may prefer alternative (or no) cases on their 9900s
    Last edited by mushroom_daddy; 02-25-17 at 09:28 AM.
    02-25-17 03:48 AM
  19. Frehley's Avatar
    Here is what I'm talking about, the typical box on a 9930 or 9900 usually looks like this. Or similar to my 9780. You can see the production date on this is 2014.

    Maybe they repackaged yours in a plain box or something.Click image for larger version. 

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    For some reason I cannot add a picture, but the label on my AT&T box shows the PRD number as in your photo and has all of the other information except the 6 digit number
    02-25-17 07:19 AM
  20. littlebuff's Avatar
    For some reason I cannot add a picture, but the label on my AT&T box shows the PRD number as in your photo and has all of the other information except the 6 digit number
    Have you enable 'Share file' in App Permission for CB10 app?

    Posted from my  Passport
    02-25-17 09:22 AM
  21. anon(9721108)'s Avatar
    I guess the best thing to do is just charge up loose batteries periodically, even if not in use. Better safe than sorry.

    I'll rue the day when there are no more working replaceable batteries for our beloved legacy devices.
    We have a place called battery boys and supposedly they can custom make any battery if you give them an old one. Supposedly very expensive but possible :-)
    02-25-17 05:05 PM
  22. anon(9721108)'s Avatar
    For me this is the best case, protecting my Bold but allowing me to use and enjoy the device in all its 'naked glory'.

    My 9900 spends a lot of time in my pockets or getting pushed into a rucksack or my work case. Never suffered a scratch from keys or money etc. The magnet function on BlackBerry holsters are great at prolonging battery life, auto -ending -answering calls etc. This pocket case has also protected my earlier 9900 from several substantial drops, perhaps not as significant as those handed out by idssteve but bad enough to dink & dent the chassis, or worse.

    What works for one will not necessarily suit all and I accept that others may prefer alternative (or no) cases on their 9900s
    Oh yeah for sure I could see it if it's in like a backpack or something or a bag you definitely want something to protect the keys. Yeah I like them naked. I have that official BlackBerry softshell case and it just doesn't have the same feeling, and I never have a problem with the 99 wanting to slip out of my hand.
    02-25-17 05:07 PM
  23. anon(9721108)'s Avatar
    For some reason I cannot add a picture, but the label on my AT&T box shows the PRD number as in your photo and has all of the other information except the 6 digit number
    Hmm weird. Maybe the existing PRD number can be googled and you might get some information for a date.
    02-25-17 05:09 PM
  24. Frehley's Avatar
    Yep, strange. the PRD is 39473-101 which is the AT&T 9900 model RDE70UW which is correct for the 9900, but would like to find the built on date. Would searching the SKU number help?

    Great to have it powered up and activated by the way...missed this little "powerhouse"
    02-25-17 06:39 PM
  25. anon(9721108)'s Avatar
    Yep, strange. the PRD is 39473-101 which is the AT&T 9900 model RDE70UW which is correct for the 9900, but would like to find the built on date. Would searching the SKU number help?

    Great to have it powered up and activated by the way...missed this little "powerhouse"
    Not sure. I wish I had the original box for mine, but of course I bought it used.

    Have you done the "BUYR" test on your 99 yet? It just shows total useage measured in Days, Hours, minutes and seconds........

    Click Device, Service Status and type BUYR, (with Caps held) then scroll down to get the total useage the device has. This will confirm if the device was possibly refurbished or used, etc. It's also just interesting to try.


    -sent from a beautiful Bold 9900
    02-26-17 12:34 AM
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