07-23-20 01:22 PM
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  1. c29's Avatar
    And a further update on the second Punkt MP02 handset replacement - it has now got a failed connector between the LCD and system board. The LCD screen is now only ever green in colour. Calls do not get connected, voicemails notification does not occur.
    MP01 handset number 2 has now failed.
    'Punkt' apparently have no replacement stock. They are now awaiting the next production to be complete which will be some time in late August. A Euro-329 handset that stops working after 8 months - definitely not worth the money or inconvenience. Jasper Morrison may have designed the outside but the internals have obviously been produced with inferior quality components that have gone through very limited testing.
    07-02-20 07:30 PM
  2. c29's Avatar
    And just an update on the internal build quality of these handsets.
    From our experience it's pretty mediocre.
    We now have a second unit that has failed again after about 8 months of basic call and text usage.
    It started with the LCD screen going green and purple. It is now permanently green and white. Calls don't call, calls can't be answered, texts are sent as garbled illegible messages.
    The WiFi hotspot/tethering has never worked in either unit - perhaps that was a sign.
    We logged the failure of the LCD screen back on the 9th of June. We understand that COVID-19 has slowed everything down.
    The current status is that they are not manufacturing any more units due to COVID-19 and they have no replacement stock available.
    Even under these circumstances a refund is not possible.
    Don't bother with Punkt.
    It was a nice idea but the follow through makes it nowhere near worth the money or the pain of having the handsets perform so badly if at all.
    If BlackBerry came out with a secure basic handset they could make a killing because there's a market for it in the elderly, young kids and people that just don't want to be connected. It's a shame they're not around any more.
    07-07-20 06:50 PM
  3. brookie229's Avatar
    pretty mediocre.
    If that was "mediocre" I'd hate to see "bad".
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    07-07-20 07:56 PM
  4. Chuck Finley69's Avatar
    And just an update on the internal build quality of these handsets.
    From our experience it's pretty mediocre.
    We now have a second unit that has failed again after about 8 months of basic call and text usage.
    It started with the LCD screen going green and purple. It is now permanently green and white. Calls don't call, calls can't be answered, texts are sent as garbled illegible messages.
    The WiFi hotspot/tethering has never worked in either unit - perhaps that was a sign.
    We logged the failure of the LCD screen back on the 9th of June. We understand that COVID-19 has slowed everything down.
    The current status is that they are not manufacturing any more units due to COVID-19 and they have no replacement stock available.
    Even under these circumstances a refund is not possible.
    Don't bother with Punkt.
    It was a nice idea but the follow through makes it nowhere near worth the money or the pain of having the handsets perform so badly if at all.
    If BlackBerry came out with a secure basic handset they could make a killing because there's a market for it in the elderly, young kids and people that just don't want to be connected. It's a shame they're not around any more.
    BlackBerry left the business and took OEMs upfront licensing money believing much if not all of it would fail.
    07-07-20 08:03 PM
  5. c29's Avatar
    I know. Writing a bit of BlackBerry into a few kernels of code does not make it anywhere even close to a BlackBerry.
    It's a shame they weren't willing to diversify when they needed to.
    07-07-20 08:10 PM
  6. Chuck Finley69's Avatar
    I know. Writing a bit of BlackBerry into a few kernels of code does not make it anywhere even close to a BlackBerry.
    It's a shame they weren't willing to diversify when they needed to.
    Microsoft couldn’t do it, so little BlackBerry Limited never stood a chance.
    07-07-20 09:43 PM
  7. Dunt Dunt Dunt's Avatar
    If BlackBerry came out with a secure basic handset they could make a killing because there's a market for it in the elderly, young kids and people that just don't want to be connected. It's a shame they're not around any more.
    Your beliefs don't match up to the market....

    Basic handsets can be had for $50, and in the end what's unsecured about them? BlackBerry didn't do anything to make Phone Calls, SMS Text, more secure. Other than making sure the OS can't be changed by someone else.... like that happens all the time without wiping a device anyway.

    At one point I did wonder if a BB10 Secure Device for $1,500 or so might be viable... but in the end most in Enterprise use the UEM to secure a device... and to dumb it down if need be. BlackBerry, Silent Circle and Boeing Black aren't really required...


    Nokia is doing very will in the basic phone market today... but with $50 - $100 hardware, that might be better quality than a $300 MP02.
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    07-08-20 07:22 AM
  8. c29's Avatar
    I reckon the Nokia will be way better - with any luck we may even be able to sync the contact list from a computer or even a CSV file. Security wise you're right it certainly doesn't need much - the Punkt is about as insecure as it gets with an Android completely open source backend. Security wise I was more thinking of locking out anything that an oldie or young one may use safely. Nokia are hard to find in Melb Australia in the basic handsets
    07-08-20 07:28 AM
  9. RBR 1's Avatar
    The only issue with Nokia is that nearly all those basic phones they make are only sold in developing countries. They are pretty much all GSM phones. To my knowledge there is only 1 2G network in the USA (T-Mobile) and 1 here in Canada (Rogers) and both those networks are being decommissioned at the end of 2020.

    Regarding the Punkt phone, perhaps it should have been named "Punked". That would be more apropos given the "glowing" testimonials I've been hearing about it.
    07-23-20 12:01 AM
  10. mikael11's Avatar
    The only issue with Nokia is that nearly all those basic phones they make are only sold in developing countries. They are pretty much all GSM phones. To my knowledge there is only 1 2G network in the USA (T-Mobile) and 1 here in Canada (Rogers) and both those networks are being decommissioned at the end of 2020.

    Regarding the Punkt phone, perhaps it should have been named "Punked". That would be more apropos given the "glowing" testimonials I've been hearing about it.
    There is definitely 4g phones, among them the 8110. In a quick search I saw at least four with lte/4g in different priceclasses and features.
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    07-23-20 01:34 AM
  11. RBR 1's Avatar
    There is definitely 4g phones, among them the 8110. In a quick search I saw at least four with lte/4g in different priceclasses and features.
    True. That's one of the few basic (or smart-ish) Nokia phones available to Americans and Canadians although it is still rare to see them here. The 2720 Flip is another that I've seen selling on eBay and Amazon and of there's the 3310 3G. The Nokia 105 is still available for people who's needs are just calling and texting but it is a 2G phone and will be useless by the end of this year. I'll have to retire my 20 year-old Nokia 3390 (aka, the 3310 to those living outside of Canada/USA) and my 15 year-old Motorola V360.
    07-23-20 12:15 PM
  12. Dunt Dunt Dunt's Avatar
    True. That's one of the few basic (or smart-ish) Nokia phones available to Americans and Canadians although it is still rare to see them here. The 2720 Flip is another that I've seen selling on eBay and Amazon and of there's the 3310 3G. The Nokia 105 is still available for people who's needs are just calling and texting but it is a 2G phone and will be useless by the end of this year. I'll have to retire my 20 year-old Nokia 3390 (aka, the 3310 to those living outside of Canada/USA) and my 15 year-old Motorola V360.
    Don't know if it's changed... but one time there was an issue with drivers for dumb phones. Why many were running either KaiOS or version of Android (like Punkt). I know with Verizon they were all Android based.... but no apps or higher functionality.
    07-23-20 01:22 PM
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