1. r0v3rT3N's Avatar
    From the title you may have guessed it, I was bored so I added up all the applications on the Playbook at the current time: Wednesday, December 11, 6:05PM EST.
    So what you all have been waiting for the list!
    I am NOT on O.S 2.0, just so you all know!

    Total Applications: 4044

    Games: 1369

    Action
    140

    Arcade
    279

    Board Games
    157

    Cards
    92

    Combat
    14

    Movie & TV Themes
    5

    Puzzles
    562

    Space
    30

    Sports
    57

    Strategy
    90

    Apps: 2675
    Business
    155

    Education
    374

    Entertainment
    261

    Finance
    103

    Health & Wellness
    158

    IM & Social Networking
    66

    Maps & Navigation
    245

    Music & Audio
    53

    News
    158

    Photo & Video
    129

    Productivity
    217

    Reference & eBooks
    936

    Shopping
    28

    Sports & Recreation
    90

    Test Center
    8

    Travel
    133

    Utilities
    477

    Weather
    20

    I would think this list could help the developers figure out which section's of the PB's App-World needed more apps.
    Last edited by r0v3rT3N; 01-17-12 at 02:13 PM.
    01-11-12 05:12 PM
  2. Fubaz's Avatar
    you should get a dev to make a script that monitors app world or compiles and dumps once a day
    i guarantee this list is already outdated

    good work though
    01-11-12 05:48 PM
  3. r0v3rT3N's Avatar
    you should get a dev to make a script that monitors app world or compiles and dumps once a day
    i guarantee this list is already outdated

    good work though
    Yes, this list most likely is outdated already. Let's hope the Playbook get's apps that fast at least...
    Thanks though...
    Last edited by r0v3rT3N; 01-11-12 at 05:59 PM.
    01-11-12 05:52 PM
  4. peter9477's Avatar
    I think we need more e-books.

    Preferably ones packaged individually with lousy reader apps.
    01-11-12 06:00 PM
  5. r0v3rT3N's Avatar
    I think we need more e-books.

    Preferably ones packaged individually with lousy reader apps.
    I was getting angry at how many their were, trying to count all of them I was going to flip if I lost count!
    01-11-12 06:03 PM
  6. anthogag's Avatar
    One day the playbook will have 50,000 apps...3,000 apps + 47,000 eBooks
    Last edited by anthogag; 01-12-12 at 08:18 AM.
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    01-11-12 06:06 PM
  7. bitek's Avatar
    One day the playbook will have 50,000 apps...3,000 apps + 46,000 eBooks
    and who needs amazon kindle ?
    01-11-12 06:23 PM
  8. BuzzStarField's Avatar
    I think we need more e-books.

    Preferably ones packaged individually with lousy reader apps.
    Why didn't I think of that?

    I'll get right on your project as soon as I have submitted a web launcher app for every URL on the internet. I can write a script to generate them and I should be able to submit 20,000 apps a day for at least a year.

    Don't worry, my fellow developers, the App World approval process shouldn't be affected all that much - RIM has very few restrictions on what is considered acceptable. Only one guy is employed in the test house and he comes in once a month to rubber stamp everything that's been submitted.
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    01-11-12 06:24 PM
  9. peter9477's Avatar
    From the title you may have guessed it, I was bored so I added up all the applications on the Playbook ...
    Just in case you plan to update the grand total from time to time, or anything like that, you may not be aware you could find the total much more easily than counting each group.

    Both the Apps and the Games categories can be viewed with an "All" button somewhere, and by paging forward you can identify the end of the list and the total count.

    A while back I did that count and got 4069, which is rather odd considering your total is lower. Any chance you missed anything? Or maybe I made a mistake and added the ebooks instead of subtracting them when I did my total? I don't have time right now to troubleshoot either approach to identify the inconsistency but maybe someone else does.
    01-11-12 06:56 PM
  10. r0v3rT3N's Avatar
    Just in case you plan to update the grand total from time to time, or anything like that, you may not be aware you could find the total much more easily than counting each group.

    Both the Apps and the Games categories can be viewed with an "All" button somewhere, and by paging forward you can identify the end of the list and the total count.

    A while back I did that count and got 4069, which is rather odd considering your total is lower. Any chance you missed anything? Or maybe I made a mistake and added the ebooks instead of subtracting them when I did my total? I don't have time right now to troubleshoot either approach to identify the inconsistency but maybe someone else does.
    I don't know, I may have miscounted...
    01-11-12 07:33 PM
  11. anthogag's Avatar
    Just in case you plan to update the grand total from time to time, or anything like that, you may not be aware you could find the total much more easily than counting each group.

    Both the Apps and the Games categories can be viewed with an "All" button somewhere, and by paging forward you can identify the end of the list and the total count.

    A while back I did that count and got 4069, which is rather odd considering your total is lower. Any chance you missed anything? Or maybe I made a mistake and added the ebooks instead of subtracting them when I did my total? I don't have time right now to troubleshoot either approach to identify the inconsistency but maybe someone else does.


    Yes...he missed 25 puzzle apps
    01-11-12 08:29 PM
  12. r0v3rT3N's Avatar
    Yes...he missed 25 puzzle apps
    That's odd I'm sure I got all of them.
    01-11-12 08:55 PM
  13. BuzzStarField's Avatar
    One day the playbook will have 50,000 apps...3,000 apps + 46,000 eBooks
    + 46,000 lousy eBooks
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    01-11-12 11:32 PM
  14. LimeTripBlog's Avatar
    + 46,000 lousy eBooks
    Digi media is also into jigsaw puzzles, not just eBooks .
    I wish the app world provided us a Spam folder, i would like my app world to be spam free.
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    01-12-12 08:00 AM
  15. jedibeeftrix's Avatar
    I think we need more e-books.

    Preferably ones packaged individually with lousy reader apps.
    only if they are drm-free epub files.

    i'll be damned if i am going to invest in files restricted to use on BBdevices.
    01-12-12 08:04 AM
  16. kbz1960's Avatar
    Digi media is also into jigsaw puzzles, not just eBooks .
    I wish the app world provided us a Spam folder, i would like my app world to be spam free.
    At least give these things their folder/section so you don't have to see them littered all over.
    01-12-12 08:08 AM
  17. BuzzStarField's Avatar
    only if they are drm-free epub files.

    i'll be damned if i am going to invest in files restricted to use on BBdevices.
    Peter9477's post was issued with tongue planted firmly in cheek and was meant to slam certain authors of lousy reader apps. But it's interesting that you would want access to FREE!!! drm-liberated ePub titles.

    I suppose there will always be a conflict between people like yourself and authors who will be damned it they are going to invest in a platform that allows just anybody to use their creations free of charge.
    01-12-12 09:38 AM
  18. jedibeeftrix's Avatar
    You misunderstand entirely.

    I want nothing for "FREE!!!"
    I am in fact quite happy to pay for media.
    I buy games from GoG all the time, and book from TheBlackLibrary too.

    I do not even necessarily demand drm-free media, although i would greatly prefer it.
    No, all i objected to was the foolishness of buying a few DRM restricted books from a non-specialist app-store limited to devices bearing a Blackberry badge.
    I likewise buy games from Steam all the time, and books from Kobo for that matter.
    Last edited by jedibeeftrix; 01-12-12 at 10:26 AM.
    01-12-12 10:24 AM
  19. BuzzStarField's Avatar
    You misunderstand entirely.

    I want nothing for "FREE!!!"
    I am in fact quite happy to pay for media.
    I buy games from GoG all the time, and book from TheBlackLibrary too.

    I do not even necessarily demand drm-free media, although i would greatly prefer it.
    No, all i objected to was the foolishness of buying a few DRM restricted books from a non-specialist app-store limited to devices bearing a Blackberry badge.
    I likewise buy games from Steam all the time, and books from Kobo for that matter.
    Sorry. Just so I don't misunderstand you again, could you elaborate on the highlighted text? Which of the apps/DRM restricted books in App World are you referring to and what is your objection to them? Whose "foolishness" are you referring to: consumers or the publishers or RIM or all three?
    01-12-12 12:40 PM
  20. jedibeeftrix's Avatar
    Sorry. Just so I don't misunderstand you again, could you elaborate on the highlighted text? Which of the apps/DRM restricted books in App World are you referring to and what is your objection to them? Whose "foolishness" are you referring to: consumers or the publishers or RIM or all three?
    there are a smattering of ebooks sprinkled through App World.

    if I buy one, can I read it elsewhere? for example; on my desktop computer, on my iphone/android/WP7 phone, etc.

    is that media portable?

    what DRM system does it use?

    if ebooks are restricted using adobe digital editions DRM, then i can at least run it on windows via the digital editions application.

    if it uses some other system, what happens to my 'library' of media when i decide to get a non-blackberry phone next time, or indeed, a non-blackberry tablet.

    does my 'library' become obsolete?

    now, given that App-World has no real interest or focus in e-books, unlike amazon/hobo/etc, what confidence should i hold in it to preserve my investment over future iterations of software and hardware?

    as to who is foolish; at this point i don't know how those books are restricted, if they are drm-free epubs then no-one is daft as the media is portable (.'. full of win), if these books are totally non-portable then the consumer is indeed daft.

    [edit]

    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/01...new_chokehold/

    [/edit]
    Last edited by jedibeeftrix; 01-17-12 at 11:18 AM.
    01-13-12 04:29 AM
  21. jedibeeftrix's Avatar
    Just so I don't misunderstand you again, could you elaborate on the highlighted text?
    does the above answer your question?
    01-17-12 11:16 AM
  22. BuzzStarField's Avatar
    does the above answer your question?
    There are no DRM protected books in App World with the exception of Kobo eBooks. There ARE a lot of public domain eBooks in an unknown format that certain authors have bundled with an eReader. These are not in intended to be portable in any sense of the word. Other vendors allow offer readers for sale and allow you to transfer your libraries of non-DRM protected books to the PlayBook.

    I personally think the practice of packaging books as apps is harmful to the App World experience and RIM needs to publish enforceable guidelines (a style-book, if you will) that describes exactly what standards apply to apps accepted into app world. However in the absence of such guidelines, RIM has no choice to accept them as legitimate apps. But this discussion has nothing to do with DRM protection - it is related rather to with the design of the app store and the regulation of what is allowed to be sold there.
    01-17-12 12:39 PM
  23. jedibeeftrix's Avatar
    "I personally think the practice of packaging books as apps is harmful to the App World experience and RIM needs to publish enforceable guidelines that describes exactly what standards apply to apps accepted into app world."

    Agreed, I would suggest ADE encrypted epub given the existing relationship with Kobo. Or better still, just plain a old epub that is extractable from the reading contraption it comes packaged in, in order that the media is portable.

    "But this discussion has nothing to do with DRM protection - it is related rather to with the design of the app store and the regulation of what is allowed to be sold there."

    If these books are not DRM encrypted then yes; however it is at least orthogonal to the broader issue of not buying into a library service that is only as portable as your continued loyalty to BB. A throwaway library is a bad-proposition all round.
    01-18-12 03:47 AM
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