1. diegonei's Avatar
    I am sure you guys remember this: [YT]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbZ9iNKw4No[/YT]

    Question is simple: Where did that go? It does not seem to be in OS2...
    01-13-12 02:25 PM
  2. glennster28's Avatar
    Hopefully it'll come out soon. The media/photo app with the carousal effect is impressive. I've noticed that Scrapbook is getting updated with more packs.
    01-13-12 02:43 PM
  3. diegonei's Avatar
    Ohh I really can't be bothered about Scrapbook... I think we can all agree we need that what we need is some awesome-looking stuff.
    01-13-12 03:02 PM
  4. BuzzStarField's Avatar
    I am sure you guys remember this:

    Question is simple: Where did that go? It does not seem to be in OS2...
    Look for it in the new category in App World called "Vapor Ware". Netflix and Kindle are also in this section. Note that the category may be invisible on some devices due to a minor bug caused by substandard PR capability at RIM head office.
    01-13-12 03:43 PM
  5. peter9477's Avatar
    I expect we'll see more of that "awesome-looking stuff" in the months following the 2.0 release.

    Obviously those demos are all heavily dependent on the Cascades UI framework, which is still in the works. It's finally entered a closed beta, and parts of it -- probably the more mature and stable (and likely less exciting) parts -- are being used for the new things in 2.0 as well. I wouldn't be very surprised to see other internal developments built using it start to show up in the next six months as both they and the framework itself reach maturity.
    01-13-12 03:55 PM
  6. BuzzStarField's Avatar
    I expect we'll see more of that "awesome-looking stuff" in the months following the 2.0 release.

    Obviously those demos are all heavily dependent on the Cascades UI framework, which is still in the works. It's finally entered a closed beta, and parts of it -- probably the more mature and stable (and likely less exciting) parts -- are being used for the new things in 2.0 as well. I wouldn't be very surprised to see other internal developments built using it start to show up in the next six months as both they and the framework itself reach maturity.
    I like your answer much better than mine. Leaking a video of this kind to the general public seems to be problematic because it sets unrealistic expectations - expectations that apply both to RIM and the developer community. The whole approach leads people to make wild assumptions based on the flimsiest of evidence - like an icon on a "demo" video. This is always followed by a big letdown when RIM "fails" to deliver on the "promise".

    It seems to me that it would be better if RIM had a two-stream strategy for communicating new development tools - giving developers at least a little bit of a heads-up with technically-oriented info and following up with a consumer-oriented campaign.

    The consumer campaign should never precede at least one or two working apps that show-off the new tools (even if part of the code is "faked" a little bit). These could be offered as freebies or could be utilities offered as part of the OS package (and of course updated frequently with hints of new tools along the way).

    The "hype" period would be followed some weeks later with a bevy of new 3rd-party apps.
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    01-13-12 04:27 PM
  7. diegonei's Avatar
    Wow Buzz, it is hard to believe both posts came from the same person. I hope you stick with the 2nd post's style.

    I understand that Cascades isn't available to the dev base. but... RIM has it. That media center was already working. Why not deliver something to impress the media and draw in consumers?
    01-13-12 05:07 PM
  8. BuzzStarField's Avatar
    Wow Buzz, it is hard to believe both posts came from the same person. I hope you stick with the 2nd post's style.

    I understand that Cascades isn't available to the dev base. but... RIM has it. That media center was already working. Why not deliver something to impress the media and draw in consumers?
    Here I go reverting again...

    They tend to do promotions and product roll-outs by halves almost as if they don't have a plan in place... perhaps because their PR program has a bug or it needs a reboot?
    01-13-12 05:45 PM
  9. patpatiar's Avatar
    haha nice pots Buzz. and i completely agree with Buzz's first post lol.
    imho - RIM is trying to do so much at once rather then perfecting something then moving on.
    it leaves the consumers with half finished products.
    01-13-12 06:08 PM
  10. mithrazor's Avatar
    I love the Frontrunner app.

    The only thing is I feel these transitions are too long (ie WP7 on the HTC Titan I think it was). I hope they can be sped up or have the customizability to be sped up or slow down.
    01-13-12 06:53 PM
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