[conite]

Is anyone here familiar with the degoogled e.foundation /e/OS? If yes would like to hear impressions. If good maybe it could become an option for OM's device? Helping against today's binary choice(s).

No one would be interested in a non-Google-certified device. It wouldn't even get out of the gate.

/e/ is basically just LineageOS. What would you like to know, as many of us have devices using that?

[Chuck Finley69]

Is anyone here familiar with the degoogled e.foundation /e/OS? If yes would like to hear impressions. If good maybe it could become an option for OM's device? Helping against today's binary choice(s).

OM announced device, when it happens (and if ) would run the latest Android OS plus be kept up to date and secure, theoretically, like a Pixel for example. If you're interested, Teracube 2e is available degoogled although I doubt it's selling much.

[Emaderton3]

They are obviously redirecting inquiries as they have nothing to do with a new BlackBerry phone.

[Dunt Dunt Dunt]

Is anyone here familiar with the degoogled e.foundation /e/OS? If yes would like to hear impressions. If good maybe it could become an option for OM's device? Helping against today's binary choice(s).

Yeah OM is going to want all the Google goodness... as that is what sells. Enterprise can use a UEM to manage the "privacy" settings as needed.

Now the hope will be they leave the boot rom unlocked, and user can chose to do what they want.... install some fork version of Android that is less Google or a more pure Linux distribution.

[DonHB]

Never expected /e/OS to be standard issue. The /e/OS would be an optional alternative OS to be installed by customers not preinstalled by OM. Should the OM device have up-to-date hardware this would be a better offering then what the e.foundation currently supports and sells. The foundation does the porting. So, it should not require additional investment by OM.however, if it takes time to port, it could breath new life into the device as it reaches the age when competitors devices are reaching EoL.

Also, the foundation offers devices with its OS preinstalled. The problem is that only older generation devices are supported. So, this could be an opportunity to change that, but the PKB could delay what could otherwise be a routine port.OM could provide devices to the foundation for sale and development as an incentive to do the port. How many is anyone's guess ? At preproduction (safe asssumption) this could help to determine the size of the 1st production run. People who want the OS ,but questiontt the need for a PKB would likely buy the device if it has Current hardware.
Despite the PKB this would furthrer differentiate OM from the Android masses and address Privacy concerns regarding Google. The Foundation also funds development in MicroG to improve compatibiliy with Android apps. Have yet to use the OS (don't own a compatible device), hoped to hear from the experienced here.

[DonHB]

for those interested this page about its products has a link to search for available apps (in e.foundation's app store):
https://e.foundation/products/

[conite]

Never expected /e/OS to be standard issue. The /e/OS would be an optional alternative OS to be installed by customers not preinstalled by OM. Should the OM device have up-to-date hardware this would be a better offering then what the e.foundation currently supports and sells. The foundation does the porting. So, it should not require additional investment by OM.however, if it takes time to port, it could breath new life into the device as it reaches the age when competitors devices are reaching EoL.

Also, the foundation offers devices with its OS preinstalled. The problem is that only older generation devices are supported. So, this could be an opportunity to change that, but the PKB could delay what could otherwise be a routine port.OM could provide devices to the foundation for sale and development as an incentive to do the port. How many is anyone's guess ? At preproduction (safe asssumption) this could help to determine the size of the 1st production run. People who want the OS ,but questiontt the need for a PKB would likely buy the device if it has Current hardware.
Despite the PKB this would furthrer differentiate OM from the Android masses and address Privacy concerns regarding Google. The Foundation also funds development in MicroG to improve compatibiliy with Android apps. Have yet to use the OS (don't own a compatible device), hoped to hear from the experienced here.

Get a brand new Pixel 5 and install LineageOS and MicroG. Same result.

To make anything work with a pkb, drivers would have to be integrated into the OS, so some work would have to be done to accommodate.

[DonHB]

why would I want a google device? Presumably, the drivers from the standard issue Android OS could be used in /e/OS.

[Chuck Finley69]

why would I want a google device? Presumably, the drivers from the standard issue Android OS could be used in /e/OS.

Again, Teracube 2e is attempting with probably not so great results. OM needs to make at least mainstream device first before it wastes limited resources elsewhere. Not saying Teracube has been successful but they’ve made it farther than OM and somewhere between Sonim, Fairphone and Unihertz products and projects.

[conite]

why would I want a google device? Presumably, the drivers from the standard issue Android OS could be used in /e/OS.

Because, ironically, it's the newest hardware that will work exceptionally well with LineageOS.

As an example of the driver issue, several people have worked tirelessly to bring an AOSP to the Titan, but have struggled with the keyboard software. It can certainly be done, but it's not academic.

[nst6ldr]

Is anyone here familiar with the degoogled e.foundation /e/OS? If yes would like to hear impressions. If good maybe it could become an option for OM's device? Helping against today's binary choice(s).

If you mean flashing the device and loading the image on there: probably not. Historically BlackBerry devices only take images that have been signed by the manufacturer. BlackBerry has always done this, TCL has adopted it, OM is likely going to do the same.

If you mean anything else: OM has announced a partnership with a mysterious company X that will provide security. Your guess is as good as mine but I don't think it'll be an open source project.

Because, ironically, it's the newest hardware that will work exceptionally well with LineageOS.

As an example of the driver issue, several people have worked tirelessly to bring an AOSP to the Titan, but have struggled with the keyboard software. It can certainly be done, but it's not academic.

Breaking news: MediaTek device brings compatibility issues, shocking literally no-one.

It's a disgrace that drivers are such an issue in a world where the amount of component manufacturers has shrunk as hard (perhaps faster) as the amount of manufacturers. Oh well, at least this particular one isn't Google's fault, so that's refreshing.

[Dunt Dunt Dunt]

If you mean flashing the device and loading the image on there: probably not. Historically BlackBerry devices only take images that have been signed by the manufacturer. BlackBerry has always done this, TCL has adopted it, OM is likely going to do the same.

If you mean anything else: OM has announced a partnership with a mysterious company X that will provide security. Your guess is as good as mine but I don't think it'll be an open source project.



Breaking news: MediaTek device brings compatibility issues, shocking literally no-one.

It's a disgrace that drivers are such an issue in a world where the amount of component manufacturers has shrunk as hard (perhaps faster) as the amount of manufacturers. Oh well, at least this particular one isn't Google's fault, so that's refreshing.

I wonder how much of Windows 5GB is drivers and support for hardware? I guess now that 64GB and up are almost standard on phones, there should be room for a Android install to support most everything. But in the end that's why each OM is responsible for their own drivers with Android. Some highly customize those drivers to get the most out of components like the camera.... while others just put in enough effort to make them "work".