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  1. Chuck Finley69's Avatar
    This was the latest article that I could find. I felt worth posting here because it seemed to be fairly neutral across the board with some potential insight as to what to realistically expect.

    https://www.mobilenewscwp.co.uk/Feat...esh-blackberry

    Also, found this in my searches and thought others might appreciate.

    https://www.rainierco.com/pr-blog/ne...cations-as-aor
    10-08-20 02:48 PM
  2. Rico4you's Avatar
    This was the latest article that I could find. I felt worth posting here because it seemed to be fairly neutral across the board with some potential insight as to what to realistically expect.

    https://www.mobilenewscwp.co.uk/Feat...esh-blackberry

    Also, found this in my searches and thought others might appreciate.

    https://www.rainierco.com/pr-blog/ne...cations-as-aor
    Another opinion.

    Why another thread for this? Should be added to current thread.

    https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink/top...ink_source=app
    10-08-20 03:02 PM
  3. conite's Avatar
    This was the latest article that I could find. I felt worth posting here because it seemed to be fairly neutral across the board with some potential insight as to what to realistically expect.

    https://www.mobilenewscwp.co.uk/Feat...esh-blackberry

    Also, found this in my searches and thought others might appreciate.

    https://www.rainierco.com/pr-blog/ne...cations-as-aor
    Salient points to me:

    "Corporates and governments have already benefited from nearly a decade of security from Android through its Android Enterprise Recommended system, Samsung’s Knox software or Apple’s strong iOS ecosystem, as well as myriad bespoke providers. So it’s not clear how OM can offer something that will provide a better experience than the market share leaders, say analysts. “Knox is so sophisticated now, and lots of distributors have begun specialising in the credentials needed to deploy Android Enterprise Recommended at scale with factors such as zero-touch deployment and third-party enterprise mobility management platforms,” says Canalys senior analyst Ben Stanton."

    And:

    “TCL did a really good job,” says Donn. ..."They didn’t fail because they disappointed people, they failed because the market wasn’t there.”

    And:

    He adds: “This new company (OM) is a bit of an enigma and ... I haven’t seen anything to suggest it has the capacity to pick up where TCL wasn’t fully invested, which is the go-to-market strategy.”
    Last edited by conite; 10-08-20 at 03:53 PM.
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    10-08-20 03:42 PM
  4. conite's Avatar
    It once again comes back to my general thesis on the subject - OM needs to do a specific task that Knox and iOS CAN'T do, or are unwilling to do. Otherwise they are dead in the water.
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    10-08-20 03:46 PM
  5. conite's Avatar

    Why another thread for this? Should be added to current thread.
    An entire forum has been created for OnwardMobility. Why have everything in a single thread?
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    10-08-20 03:50 PM
  6. Chuck Finley69's Avatar
    Another opinion.

    Why another thread for this? Should be added to current thread.

    https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink/top...ink_source=app
    What's type of interview article doesn't have opinions? This one included and started with Onward Mobility and Peter Franklin's opinions. It then features actual real industry experts that are familiar with BlackBerry as OEM and licensing strategies and not just the "BlackBerry is dead" nonsense.

    Then my second link was simply information that was pretty hidden in my searches going back to initial BlackBerry Onward Mobility licensing announcement. It demonstrated some form of commitment which I've aggressively questioned. Why shouldn't I be objective and offer that up to give OM credit where it's due?

    Before I created a thread, I objectively looked where I should post the information but was concerned, that once again, I'd hear whining about hijacking some thread. I don't start many threads here. For me, it's a lot easier to post and reply.

    Whatever, as you know, it doesn't really matter to me as no matter what I say or how I say it, somebody is going to recommend that I need to attend sensitivity training..
    BBuso77 and phuoc like this.
    10-08-20 04:54 PM
  7. Rico4you's Avatar
    Speculative opinions nothing new...the record keeps on spinning. That's Entertainment.
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    10-08-20 05:09 PM
  8. the_boon's Avatar
    “TCL did a really good job,” says Donn. ..."They didn’t fail because they disappointed people, they failed because the market wasn’t there.”
    That's this random blogger's opinion...

    OM needs to do a specific task that Knox and iOS CAN'T do, or are unwilling to do. Otherwise they are dead in the water.
    ...and that one is yours
    Paulelmar18 likes this.
    10-08-20 05:14 PM
  9. conite's Avatar
    That's this random blogger's opinion...



    ...and that one is yours
    Well, he's a senior analyst from Canalys (a rather large and reputable firm). But ok.

    And yes, the second one is mine, as I indicated.
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    10-08-20 05:17 PM
  10. Chuck Finley69's Avatar
    Speculative opinions nothing new...the record keeps on spinning. That's Entertainment.
    The initial controlled questions, one-sided interviews are called press releases and infomercials. The opinions stated, in the link, were based on the past and seemed pretty factual about the past and future challenges. What opinions specifically do you think are incorrect and more importantly, why?
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    10-08-20 05:19 PM
  11. the_boon's Avatar
    Well, he's a senior analyst from Canalys (a rather large and reputable firm). But ok.
    "They (TCL) didn't fail because they disappointed people, but because the market wasn't there"

    How do you know he knows that for a fact?
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    10-08-20 05:23 PM
  12. Chuck Finley69's Avatar
    That's this random blogger's opinion...



    ...and that one is yours
    The writer interviewed industry experts from what I could tell. The article was pretty objective and explained things fairly. What did you think was incorrect or unfair?
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    10-08-20 05:25 PM
  13. Chuck Finley69's Avatar
    "They (TCL) didn't fail because they disappointed people, but because the market wasn't there"

    How do you know he knows that for a fact?
    The KEYone demonstrated that. Carriers in USA couldn't give them away. It's BlackBerry largest demographic from their successful days.

    You can lead a horse to water......
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    10-08-20 05:29 PM
  14. conite's Avatar
    "They (TCL) didn't fail because they disappointed people, but because the market wasn't there"

    How do you know he knows that for a fact?
    That has always seemed pretty obvious to me, and apparently Canalys has data to back it up. I'm sure they would be willing to sell it to you if you were interested.
    10-08-20 05:33 PM
  15. the_boon's Avatar
    I'm sure they would be willing to sell it to you if you were interested.
    Lol
    10-08-20 05:35 PM
  16. conite's Avatar
    Lol
    That's how analytics firms work. They are not charities.
    10-08-20 05:41 PM
  17. Chuck Finley69's Avatar
    Another opinion.

    Why another thread for this? Should be added to current thread.

    https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink/top...ink_source=app
    See? Now someone else's thread hasn't been hijacked?
    10-08-20 06:01 PM
  18. shakingthrough's Avatar
    It once again comes back to my general thesis on the subject - OM needs to do a specific task that Knox and iOS CAN'T do, or are unwilling to do. Otherwise they are dead in the water.
    I agree, but found this quote from the article interesting: "It’s worth noting that the company’s journey didn’t start with the aim of taking a new BlackBerry phone to market: the company formed with the goal of bringing out a new, hyper-secure device, before TCL handed it an opportunity by giving up the BlackBerry licence." (their misspelling of "license", not mine). Anyway, maybe OM does feel that they have identified a unique functionality that Knox or iOS do not currently have - and it was identified even before they partnered with BlackBerry.
    the_boon likes this.
    10-08-20 06:28 PM
  19. brookie229's Avatar
    This was the latest article that I could find. I felt worth posting here because it seemed to be fairly neutral across the board with some potential insight as to what to realistically expect.

    https://www.mobilenewscwp.co.uk/Feat...esh-blackberry

    Also, found this in my searches and thought others might appreciate.

    https://www.rainierco.com/pr-blog/ne...cations-as-aor
    I like that last paragraph "shoebox" reference in your first link, lol. Thanks for the links btw.
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    10-08-20 06:29 PM
  20. conite's Avatar
    I agree, but found this quote from the article interesting: "It’s worth noting that the company’s journey didn’t start with the aim of taking a new BlackBerry phone to market: the company formed with the goal of bringing out a new, hyper-secure device, before TCL handed it an opportunity by giving up the BlackBerry licence." (their misspelling of "license", not mine). Anyway, maybe OM does feel that they have identified a unique functionality that Knox or iOS do not currently have - and it was identified even before they partnered with BlackBerry.
    Licence is spelled correctly for those of us using the Queen's English.
    10-08-20 09:23 PM
  21. shakingthrough's Avatar
    Licence is spelled correctly for those of us using the Queen's English.
    Oh jeez. In typical American fashion I had no idea.
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    10-08-20 09:29 PM
  22. Ecm's Avatar
    Licence is spelled correctly for those of us using the Queen's English.
    Yep. Licence = the noun; License = the verb
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    10-08-20 09:29 PM
  23. tubularbell's Avatar
    Well, all remains to be seen ofcourse. I thought I picked up somewhere (read or heard) that the hyper security USP of the phone would be that the phone itself would be more of a guide to the user on security matters than any other has ever been. Or something along that line... Maybe that's what they think will set the phone apart from Knox and iOS?
    10-09-20 06:32 AM
  24. donnation's Avatar
    This is what I find baffling about this entire venture: "Franklin also said the new device would fulfil the need in the market for a consumer-ready smartphone built from the ground up in terms of security.”

    There is no consumer need here.

    How many times is that approach going to be taken with consumers before its realized that its just not a major selling point? People already feel that their Android and iOS devices are secure and the majority of people aren't walking looking for a new phone based off of how secure it is. BlackBerry tried this with every single release since BB10, and it has always failed. It will fail again here too and OM should know better.
    Troy Tiscareno likes this.
    10-09-20 07:49 AM
  25. Emaderton3's Avatar
    I agree, but found this quote from the article interesting: "It’s worth noting that the company’s journey didn’t start with the aim of taking a new BlackBerry phone to market: the company formed with the goal of bringing out a new, hyper-secure device, before TCL handed it an opportunity by giving up the BlackBerry licence." (their misspelling of "license", not mine). Anyway, maybe OM does feel that they have identified a unique functionality that Knox or iOS do not currently have - and it was identified even before they partnered with BlackBerry.
    Was the license exclusive to TCL? Other companies in other countries were licensing BlackBerry, right?
    10-09-20 08:39 AM
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