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  1. sandman10's Avatar
    i'm sure more details will trickle out soon, but a locked part of the Globe and Mail (a newspaper with well connected BB ties for info) has the headline :

    "On the heels of poor quarter, head of sales demoted...."
    12-24-14 07:11 PM
  2. Jtaylor1986's Avatar
    Just read the article and it said nothing of substance. Don't get to excited it's all speculation
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    12-24-14 07:40 PM
  3. sandman10's Avatar
    Just read the article and it said nothing of substance. Don't get to excited it's all speculation
    why not post the contents of the article so we can judge for ourselves?
    12-24-14 08:34 PM
  4. THBW's Avatar
    why not post the contents of the article so we can judge for ourselves?
    It's the Globe and Mail. It used to be a decent paper maybe 20 years ago but it has been relegated to the bush leagues by mediocre management. Sort of sad actually. Nothing more than click bait these days. Haven't been to the website in months.

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    12-24-14 08:49 PM
  5. sandman10's Avatar
    It's the Globe and Mail. It used to be a decent paper maybe 20 years ago but it has been relegated to the bush leagues by mediocre management. Sort of sad actually. Nothing more than click bait these days. Haven't been to the website in months.

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    Is that why they refer to it as the "Mop and Pail" now?

    mind you, I've always found that their BB articles are deeper and more accurate than any of the other canadian rags...
    12-24-14 09:07 PM
  6. KemKev's Avatar
    It's the Globe and Mail. It used to be a decent paper maybe 20 years ago but it has been relegated to the bush leagues by mediocre management. Sort of sad actually. Nothing more than click bait these days. Haven't been to the website in months.
    It still is a decent paper. All depends on what you are looking for and or expecting.
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    12-24-14 09:14 PM
  7. notafanofyou's Avatar
    The G@M is just garbage like more media outlets. They will print whatever you want for $$$$$$. That includes advertorials or hit pieces. The only problem for them is people are waking up to this reality.

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    12-24-14 09:47 PM
  8. KemKev's Avatar
    From 24News.ca

    On the heels of poorer-than-expected third quarter results, BlackBerry Ltd. chief John Chen has demoted the company’s head of sales, part of a broader set of management changes at the beleaguered smartphone maker.

    BlackBerry confirmed in an e-mail Wednesday that Eric Johnson, formerly president of global sales for BlackBerry, has been replaced by the company’s president of enterprise, John Sims. Mr. Johnson, hired 11 months ago, “will focus on driving enterprise sales, deepening our relationships with enterprise customers and ensuring” the company’s server software and portfolio of services “are meeting expectations” in a new role, a company spokesman said in an e-mail.
    Source: On heels of poor quarter, Blackberry?s Chen demotes head of sales - 24News.ca
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    12-24-14 10:17 PM
  9. sentimentGX4's Avatar
    Don't know why you guys are hating on the Globe & Mail for publishing news. It's not a subjective headline. Either the guy is demoted or he isn't and if he is demoted then many of the posts in this thread will be cringey.
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    12-24-14 10:19 PM
  10. AnimalPak200's Avatar
    Well, glad Chen agrees sales were poor.

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    12-24-14 10:31 PM
  11. Hlao-roo's Avatar
    Chen's long-term plan is apparently to put John Sims in charge of everything.
    12-24-14 11:31 PM
  12. alan510's Avatar
    Seems the article is based on an internal memo. Two other execs are shifting roles as well, likely to cover off some of the responsibilities that Sims had but would find hard to do with his new sales role. There's mention of carrier relations troubles. You'd have to think that Chen isn't pleased at how long it's taking to get AT&T to offer the new devices, especially the Passport. Chen might smile a lot and joke now and then, but he's clearly a task master.

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    12-25-14 12:43 AM
  13. trsbbs's Avatar
    JC seems a little slow (not aware of carrier issues prior to launch) and living in a small bubble with his insistence on physical keyboards.

    I hope he sees the light before he kills off the handset division.



    BlackBerry hates America!
    12-25-14 08:54 AM
  14. early2bed's Avatar
    One has to wonder whether Chen will be able to make any headway with carriers. Its not like they are going to do anything just because you fly out for a meeting and talk tough. This is a sales numbers game and Blackberry doesn't have them. The only company that has ever been able to push around the carriers has been Apple and even they had to start out with a multi-year exclusive. Even Microsoft can't get their updates out in a timely manner.
    12-25-14 09:09 AM
  15. prplhze2000's Avatar
    What are y'all griping about? Chen is actually imposing accountability on his executives. Something that didn't happen for a long time under prior management.

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    12-25-14 09:25 AM
  16. bhrgvr's Avatar
    What are y'all griping about? Chen is actually imposing accountability on his executives. Something that didn't happen for a long time under prior management.

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    +1 to you...

    They are actually doing periodic cleaning up the house before going anywhere, which is necessary. Problems may arise if they remove necessary staff during the cleanup.
    12-25-14 09:35 AM
  17. Cozz4ever's Avatar
    What are y'all griping about? Chen is actually imposing accountability on his executives. Something that didn't happen for a long time under prior management.

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    Seems like Chen has a reaction for every action within Blackberry. I'm very impressed with how fast he can make a decision. This sort of style should have been implemented over 5 years ago.
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    12-25-14 09:40 AM
  18. Powdah's Avatar
    One of my favorite leadership guru's favorite comments is the most important thing is to make sure you have the right people in the right seats on the bus.

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    12-25-14 09:47 AM
  19. crackberry_geek's Avatar
    BlackBerry has a Head of Sales?

    Really?

    I wonder what he does all day long?

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    12-25-14 10:11 AM
  20. AnimalPak200's Avatar
    BlackBerry has a Head of Sales?

    Really?

    I wonder what he does all day long?

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    Post shopblackerry.com coupon codes on CrackBerry? Woops.

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    12-25-14 10:53 AM
  21. Jtaylor1986's Avatar
    The reason I said this article is click bait is because it is not even remotely clear this is a demotion rather than a lateral move. People don't get demoted in anywhere but the army. You can't demote someone legally as it's constructive dismissal you basically keep them in their job, fire them of transfer them laterally.
    12-25-14 10:53 AM
  22. sentimentGX4's Avatar
    One has to wonder whether Chen will be able to make any headway with carriers. Its not like they are going to do anything just because you fly out for a meeting and talk tough. This is a sales numbers game and Blackberry doesn't have them.
    Carrier relations have markedly deteriorated under Chen. Verizon and AT&T barely carry any Blackberry models now and new models are by online order only. Chen initiated the very public T-Mobile fiasco and Sprint has basically reverted back to its longstanding policy of ignoring alternative OSes.

    Not entirely certain that Chen has put any effort on carrier relations at all given the direction things are going. Earlier in the year, some posters argued that Chen was consolidating channels even. (Basically, cutting relations with retailers carrying Blackberry.) If Chen's goal is to preserve the hardware division, he has his work cut out for him.
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    12-25-14 11:27 AM
  23. crackberry_geek's Avatar
    Carrier relations have markedly deteriorated under Chen. Verizon and AT&T barely carry any Blackberry models now and new models are by online order only. Chen initiated the very public T-Mobile fiasco and Sprint has basically reverted back to its longstanding policy of ignoring alternative OSes.

    Not entirely certain that Chen has put any effort on carrier relations at all given the direction things are going. Earlier in the year, some posters argued that Chen was consolidating channels even. (Basically, cutting relations with retailers carrying Blackberry.) If Chen's goal is to preserve the hardware division, he has his work cut out for him.
    Exactly!

    Chen has been worthless for a year now when it comes to carrier relations. Tmo has even put an olive branch out there and he's ignored it. Regardless of who's fault it was... Chen's arrogance on the matter is hurting BlackBerry more than any other.

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    12-25-14 12:00 PM
  24. bhrgvr's Avatar
    Exactly!

    Chen has been worthless for a year now when it comes to carrier relations. Tmo has even put an olive branch out there and he's ignored it. Regardless of who's fault it was... Chen's arrogance on the matter is hurting BlackBerry more than any other.

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    I dont think Chen has been worthless. His aim is to move the company beyond hardware sales. Pre and Post BB10 release Sales of hardware have been going down and it is near impossible to crack that ever elusive consumer market. Chen has realized it and seeing carriers being ignorant of new BB handset release and absolute no support for its phones, he decided to ignore them.

    Getting phones to be sold by carriers means a lot of training for its staff and that means spending money, which BB does not want to spend. It may try another shot at the market if and when it returns to good growth and profitability.

    Lets say for a moment that BlackBerry accepted the olive branch from TMO, will that ensure that BB sales pick up? I doubt it.
    12-25-14 12:09 PM
  25. Hendri Hendri's Avatar
    I dont think Chen has been worthless. His aim is to move the company beyond hardware sales. Pre and Post BB10 release Sales of hardware have been going down and it is near impossible to crack that ever elusive consumer market. Chen has realized it and seeing carriers being ignorant of new BB handset release and absolute no support for its phones, he decided to ignore them.

    Getting phones to be sold by carriers means a lot of training for its staff and that means spending money, which BB does not want to spend. It may try another shot at the market if and when it returns to good growth and profitability.

    Lets say for a moment that BlackBerry accepted the olive branch from TMO, will that ensure that BB sales pick up? I doubt it.
    If the carriers being ignorant of new BlackBerry handset, it's completely normal. Why must they put their attention to handset that lack of support ?

    on one occasion, they stated that they will focusing on enterprise business, which mean business software, security, BES sales, and with no obligation using BlackBerry handset. Many BlackBerry fans support this decision, and proud with chen

    But on the other hand, people still expecting BlackBerry will have a good sales on their phone?

    When some people complaining about lacking of native application, they said BlackBerry is focusing on enterprise, and applications are not really that important for business person. But can't accept low sales on the handset?

    Pick a side, and stick with it, with all the consequences

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    12-25-14 12:55 PM
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