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  1. Tre Lawrence's Avatar
    Yes, yada yada get a tin foil hat etc.

    Tin foil hats have a scary way to be right in recent history though.
    I don't disagree with some of your pertinent points; I do feel that BBRY is the biggest reason for its own decline.
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    08-01-15 03:37 PM
  2. rthonpm's Avatar
    For the tin foil hat set that are running a Professional version of Windows, here are the steps for disabling OneDrive.

    http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/i...8feb225?auth=1

    Windows works perfectly well without activating OneDrive and most corporate machines have it disabled.

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    08-01-15 03:47 PM
  3. AluminiumRims's Avatar
    I don't disagree with some of your pertinent points; I do feel that BBRY is the biggest reason for its own decline.
    Partially, it is of course because of Blackberry. However, it doesn't explain why Blackberries are virtually impossible to buy. They aren't in any store and I had to order mine from an overseas importer to get one. That said, when I go into the store I can see several vertical brands like CAT (Bullitt Mobile), Doro, Vertu. These brands aren't high volume sellers but I can still get them in the store. Blackberry market access is being blocked because they run the "wrong" OS.
    08-01-15 03:48 PM
  4. AluminiumRims's Avatar
    For the tin foil hat set that are running a Professional version of Windows, here are the steps for disabling OneDrive.

    How to Disable OneDrive Completely ? - Microsoft Community

    Windows works perfectly well without activating OneDrive and most corporate machines have it disabled.

    Posted via CB10
    Corporates would stop using Windows if they couldn't disable the spying. The spying is intended for the computer illiterate civilian who agrees having his private data accessed through the EULA, which he/she never reads. Therefore all the spy features are enabled by default as not many will know or care to disable it. Morally this is really ugly.
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    08-01-15 03:54 PM
  5. deadcowboy's Avatar
    It's "couldn't care less" and taking a dump is not illegal, but you wouldn't want people monitoring it would you? The bottom line is that privacy is a very important aspect of FREEDOM.

    On another note, you say that you don't do anything illegal but you're doing an absolutely magnificent job of murdering the English language.

    Z30STA100-2/10.3.1.2582 O2 UK
    Actually it's "I could care less" with the full phrase being "I could care less, but I'd have to try". In any case, don't correct people for things when you don't do your due diligence.

    Your phrasing is a modern adjustment, and not the original phrase at all.

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    08-01-15 10:04 PM
  6. deadcowboy's Avatar
    Corporates would stop using Windows if they couldn't disable the spying. The spying is intended for the computer illiterate civilian who agrees having his private data accessed through the EULA, which he/she never reads. Therefore all the spy features are enabled by default as not many will know or care to disable it. Morally this is really ugly.
    I'm handling the transition to a new set of computers for a company's workstations, all Win 8.1. I don't see any reason to move to Win 10 now, and in certain industries, it could be a major liability.

    Linux is looking like it may be the only option in the future (in like 5 years).

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    08-01-15 10:06 PM
  7. guygardner73's Avatar
    Actually it's "I could care less" with the full phrase being "I could care less, but I'd have to try". In any case, don't correct people for things when you don't do your due diligence.

    Your phrasing is a modern adjustment, and not the original phrase at all.

    Posted via CB10
    I have never heard of that phrase in my life. It's "I couldn't care less" with the full phrase being "I couldn't care less if I tried".

    Perhaps you quoted an American colloquialism or something. Or you just made it up. Either way, I COULDN'T care less.

    PassportSQW100-1/10.3.1.2576 O2 UK
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    08-02-15 03:14 AM
  8. reversekcid's Avatar
    I leave this here :

    http://prntscr.com/7ykzbh

    Most interestingly, you can not disable the sending of telemetry data to Microsoft is you are a private user. Even if you disable it using the setting it will still send the data.


    And...

    Don't confuse security and privacy.
    08-02-15 04:20 AM
  9. AluminiumRims's Avatar
    I'm handling the transition to a new set of computers for a company's workstations, all Win 8.1. I don't see any reason to move to Win 10 now, and in certain industries, it could be a major liability.

    Linux is looking like it may be the only option in the future (in like 5 years).

    Posted via CB10
    I will certainly stay on Windows 7 unless Microsoft removes all spy extras. Funny how Microsoft totally messed up Windows 8 and now they have to do something like this. This is going to blow up right onto the face of Microsoft. Then I will look into alternatives here as well. I don't like Linux but there aren't many other choices.

    Now it would be a great time for Blackberry to release a desktop version of the BB10 OS.
    lift likes this.
    08-02-15 05:06 AM
  10. Richard Buckley's Avatar
    I have never heard of that phrase in my life. It's "I couldn't care less" with the full phrase being "I couldn't care less if I tried".

    Perhaps you quoted an American colloquialism or something. Or you just made it up. Either way, I COULDN'T care less.

    PassportSQW100-1/10.3.1.2576 O2 UK
    This little branch is completely off topic, so to foreclose continued argument I consulted an expert who can, and does do, her research:

    http://www.quickanddirtytips.com/edu...ldnt-care-less

    Z10STL100-3/10.3.2.2252 SR 10.3.2.2168
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    08-02-15 05:58 AM
  11. SnapzGEG's Avatar
    Stop with the paranoia? People have lost jobs and been denied health insurance because of stupid comments posted on social media and/or search queries on Google etc. There are stupid people everywhere who will post/search stupid stuff all the time. Is that a fair punishment though? A little paranoia is a good thing these days...and you're dreaming if you think all is well. You don't even have to be doing anything illegal to have your life ruined because of the interweb. C'est la vie, right? Do you think it's ok for someone to look into your bedroom window, as long as you're not getting undressed?

    And yeah, I know...if you're so worried don't use it. Is that what it's really come to?
    Posted via CB10
    I scratch my head and wonder sometimes..
    08-02-15 08:33 AM
  12. deadcowboy's Avatar
    Oh well. It's an entrenched idiom and it's here to stay. Many think it's meant to an ironic statement in the vein of old yiddish, humorous sayings.
    08-02-15 11:09 AM
  13. tmf06's Avatar
    I dont do anything illegal, so I could care less.
    Soon to be famous last words of a free society

    Posted via CB10
    guygardner73 and lift like this.
    08-02-15 11:18 AM
  14. guygardner73's Avatar
    This little branch is completely off topic, so to foreclose continued argument I consulted an expert who can, and does do, her research:

    http://www.quickanddirtytips.com/edu...ldnt-care-less

    Z10STL100-3/10.3.2.2252 SR 10.3.2.2168
    Thanks Richard.

    Z30STA100-2/10.3.1.2582 O2 UK
    08-02-15 01:49 PM
  15. guygardner73's Avatar
    Oh well. It's an entrenched idiom and it's here to stay. Many think it's meant to an ironic statement in the vein of old yiddish, humorous sayings.
    Let's put it down to transatlantic difference. Anyhow, he still said "type writter" so, A: he's still a damn murderer and B: I'm still funny as hell and C: I installed Windows 10 yesterday and it asks for permissions to do the things being discussed and stresses that you can change them at any time. So.....no biggie.

    Z30STA100-2/10.3.1.2582 O2 UK
    08-02-15 01:58 PM
  16. ALToronto's Avatar
    It's all about the ads. I just upgraded, and I allowed the sending of information. My computer used to be non-tracking, and I would get very inappropriate ads - mail order brides, pornographic games, etc. (I am a 51 yo woman). The problem is - we will get ads regardless, so they may as well be ones that don't offend me. I'll see how it goes, and whether my new trackable profile on my Windows 10 computer will affect the ads I get on my not yet upgraded Surface tablet.

    Posted via CB10 from my awesome Passport
    08-03-15 08:58 AM
  17. grahamf's Avatar
    Soon to be famous last words of a free society

    Posted via CB10

    First they came for the criminals, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a criminal.

    Then they came for the hackers, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a hacker.

    Then they came for the deviants, and I did not speak out—
    Because I was not a deviant.

    Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
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    08-03-15 10:39 AM
  18. AluminiumRims's Avatar
    It's all about the ads. I just upgraded, and I allowed the sending of information. My computer used to be non-tracking, and I would get very inappropriate ads - mail order brides, pornographic games, etc. (I am a 51 yo woman). The problem is - we will get ads regardless, so they may as well be ones that don't offend me. I'll see how it goes, and whether my new trackable profile on my Windows 10 computer will affect the ads I get on my not yet upgraded Surface tablet.

    Posted via CB10 from my awesome Passport
    You should talk to your husband.
    08-03-15 11:37 AM
  19. vladi's Avatar
    OK people here is the definite list of what to tweak in order to stop the data mining. Even disable Telemetry on consumer version

    [Guide] Disable Data Collection in Windows 10 - Windows 10 - MSFN Forum
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    08-03-15 12:11 PM
  20. ALToronto's Avatar
    You should talk to your husband.
    He doesn't use any computers on our home network. It's my teenage son I have to worry about - but he has his own MS account, so his online activities shouldn't affect the ads I see, should they?

    Posted via CB10 from my awesome Passport
    08-03-15 12:23 PM
  21. deadcowboy's Avatar
    He doesn't use any computers on our home network. It's my teenage son I have to worry about - but he has his own MS account, so his online activities shouldn't affect the ads I see, should they?

    Posted via CB10 from my awesome Passport
    I wouldn't say those ads are the result of anyone's browsing habits. They kind of just happen. Spam isn't that picky.

    Posted via CB10
    08-03-15 09:13 PM
  22. jay64's Avatar
    I turned off the infernal auto update thing myself - 8.1 works fine for me and if it ain't broke..........There was simply too many invasive defaults that needed to be weeded out and turned off. The amount of "how do I uninstall windows 10" threads all over the internet was impressive. The tech "experts" were all orgasmic over it which immediately told me to avoid it.
    lift and gvs1341 like this.
    08-04-15 11:58 AM
  23. jgrobertson's Avatar
    I agree with the view that windows 10 obliterates the concept of privacy and data security. My opinion is that they are abusing their monopoly. One does not have to use Google, facebook or apple products. But most business and scientific software requires windows.

    My expectation is that our DOJ and the Europeans will take action. Hopefully that is to break up MS and put control of API under the IEEE/ANSI and split MS into a pure OS company and an application company. Then see what happens when MS has to compete.

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    08-04-15 02:35 PM
  24. guygardner73's Avatar
    On the plus side, I'm finding Edge to be an excellent browser and the XBOX app is pretty awesome.

    PassportSQW100-1/10.3.1.2576 O2 UK
    08-04-15 04:37 PM
  25. Cynycl's Avatar
    Amazing how far we've fallen.

    Free speech has no meaning anymore. Not in person, not on the interweb. From your comment I assume you think it's fair that I would be denied health insurance in the US if I made some search queries about cancer for a friend who was just diagnosed?

    Amazing.



    Posted via CB10
    I don't think free speech means what you think it does. Free speech doesn't protect people from dealing with consequences of stupid things they say or post online. Many people have lost jobs due to the stupid things they say to others or post on their stupid social media pages. There is no protection available under any law that I am aware of that protects the person authoring stupid comments from the consequences of saying or posting said comments. It protects them from getting sued and being found liable to pay damages.

    You tell someone you think your boss is a twit and your boss finds out.....soon you need to find a new boss. Nothing to do with freedom of speech. You are free to tell anyone you wish how your boss is a twit. Your opinion is free to give. Stating it or publishing it in a manner that causes damages to that party, could give rise to a lawsuit. Whether or not it is successful will be dependent on whether the comments are permitted under free speech laws.

    As far as you getting denied health insurance for Googling cancer treatments for a friend, that I believe falls into the "I heard this on the internet so it must be true" category. It never happened and certainly to nobody you know. (insert tin foil hat reference here)

    Once again nothing to do with free speech.
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    08-05-15 01:05 PM
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