1. 2-Shoes's Avatar
    BlackBerry would seem to be on a very good strategic path with best in class wireless security for the automotive sector.

    New York Times article: http://nyti.ms/1zn30V2

    By AARON M. KESSLER
    Last Updated: February 8, 2015
    WASHINGTON Serious gaps in security and customer privacy affect nearly every vehicle that uses wireless technology, according to a report set to be released on Monday by a senators office.

    The report concludes that security measures to prevent hackers from gaining control of a vehicles electronics are inconsistent and haphazard, and that the majority of automakers do not have systems that can detect breaches or quickly respond to them.

    Drivers have come to rely on these new technologies, but unfortunately the automakers havent done their part to protect us from cyberattacks or privacy invasions, said the senator, Edward J. Markey, Democrat of Massachusetts, whose office published the report after obtaining detailed information from 16 automakers.

    In addition to finding a clear lack of appropriate security measures to protect drivers against hackers who may be able to take control of a vehicle or hackers who wish to collect and use personal driver information, the report expressed concerns over how automakers track drivers behavior and collect, transmit and store that information.

    The report found that large amounts of data on driving histories are harvested, frequently without consumers being explicitly aware that the information is being collected or how it will be used. At least nine automakers use third-party companies to collect vehicle data, which can make consumers even more vulnerable, and some transmit that data to third-party data centers too.

    This reveals that a majority of vehicle manufacturers offer features that not only record but also transmit driving history wirelessly to themselves or to third parties, the report said.

    The information collected includes where drivers have been, like physical location recorded at regular intervals, the last location they were parked, distances and times traveled, and previous destinations entered into navigation systems. A host of diagnostic data on the car is also captured.

    The findings in the report are based on information received from BMW, Fiat Chrysler, Ford, General Motors, Honda, Hyundai, Jaguar Land Rover, Mazda, Mercedes-Benz, Mitsubishi, Nissan, Porsche, Subaru, Toyota, Volkswagen and Volvo. Aston Martin, Lamborghini and Tesla did not respond to the requests.

    Technological innovations for vehicles are expanding rapidly: Safety features powered by radars, lasers and cameras are available in some vehicles and coming to more, and vehicle-to-vehicle communication in which cars can share information is expected to be available in the near future.

    At the same time, connecting cars to the Internet means that more vehicles have smartphonelike interfaces that allow for new possibilities, but also carry inherent risks.

    In November, two auto industry trade groups the Alliance of Automobile Manufacturers and the Association of Global Automakers tried to address consumer concerns by publishing a set of voluntary privacy principles aimed at limiting the use of vehicle data for marketing purposes. The principles called on automakers to collect information only as needed for legitimate business purposes.

    The report says the phrase legitimate business purposes is vague enough to allow for all kinds of collection, and asserts that clear federal rules should be established for what are permissible and appropriate uses of drivers data.

    Ford and Toyota declined to comment on the report. Fiat Chrysler and General Motors referred questions to the Alliance of Automobile Manufacturers.

    Wade Newton, a spokesman for the trade group, said automakers believe that strong consumer data privacy protections and strong vehicle security are essential to maintaining the continued trust of our customers and cited the November principles as a way that the industry was taking proactive steps.

    Auto engineers incorporate security solutions into vehicles from the very first stages of design and production and security testing never stops, he said.

    Auto companies post privacy policies in their owners manuals and on corporate websites, he said, and they pledge to provide heightened protections to the most sensitive types of consumer information protections that go beyond similar principles in other industry sectors.

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    02-09-15 07:54 AM
  2. anon1727506's Avatar
    When the Automakers are installing programs and selling the data that they collect... I'm not sure how BlackBerry can stop that. That sounds more like a privacy issue for lawmakers.
    02-09-15 08:08 AM
  3. filanto's Avatar
    My previous jeep Rubicon had a QNX-BASED operating system and so does lots of other Chrysler vehicles. Were those part of the ones with problems

    I am what I am, and that's all that I am.
    02-09-15 08:08 AM
  4. Troy Tiscareno's Avatar
    Most "smart" car systems are using QNX already, so that's clearly not the issue. The issue is how the car companies CHOOSE TO IMPLEMENT what they install, and the fact that they aren't fully disclosing this stuff to buyers. Just because an OS gives them the ability to create secure connections doesn't mean they actually do so with their implementation, and that's true of any OS. The failing here wouldn't be QNX (or Microsoft, or Linux, or whatever), but rather the car manufacturers, who have ulterior motives than you sell you a car that secures YOUR data, even from the manufacturer.
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    02-09-15 10:52 AM
  5. filanto's Avatar
    That's what I thought. Kind of like buying a top end cisco firewall and not changing the default password

    I am what I am, and that's all that I am.
    02-09-15 11:11 AM
  6. Zirak's Avatar
    Has anyone thought seriously about buying a classic car for no other reason than avoiding big brother?
    Or am I just paranoid?

    Sent while driving from my Crackberry.
    02-11-15 05:20 PM
  7. abwan11's Avatar
    Data mining is as important to the car companies, as it is to Google, Facebook, etc. Turning other people's business into cash for your business (snake oil salesman). At the turn of the century, they would of strung them up and stoned them in town square. (but, hey that was then). Today it's the business to be in and one reason for BlackBerrys fall, they were the other side of the equation. Blackberry brought a violin to a death metal jam.

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    02-11-15 09:01 PM
  8. filanto's Avatar
    My "classic" jeep xj has the top end dnr cassette tape. I am sure that they can't track me unless I have my phone

    I am what I am, and that's all that I am.
    02-18-15 03:07 PM
  9. Prem WatsApp's Avatar
    Has anyone thought seriously about buying a classic car for no other reason than avoiding big brother?
    Or am I just paranoid?

    Sent while driving from my Crackberry.
    Yes.

    I might still have my grandpa's model '70 VW beetle somewhere in a garage if my dad hasn't given it away yet.. :-D

      "Telstra, Telstra an der Wand, wer ist der schoenste im ganzen Land...?" Answer: Passport... (Optus got it!) ;-)  
    02-22-15 05:01 PM
  10. Prem WatsApp's Avatar
    Big Brother on your phone, Big Brother in your TV, in your PC and on the road...

    Hello, 1984,
    Global pwnage... *eek*

    Data minage... LOL

      "Telstra, Telstra an der Wand, wer ist der schoenste im ganzen Land...?" Answer: Passport... (Optus got it!) ;-)  
    02-22-15 05:06 PM

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