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  1. ofutur's Avatar
    See you in the other thread; I'm intrigued as to where the system reports the SoC.
    Perhaps like the 'boot time bug', the OS is reporting the info incorrectly?
    No, the OS is reporting the info correctly, but marketing only knows of S4 Pro. I'll post now in the other thread.
    09-29-13 02:16 PM
  2. Pete The Penguin's Avatar
    No, the OS is reporting the info correctly, but marketing only knows of S4 Pro. I'll post now in the other thread.
    The Z30 is identifying it's chip using the EV-DO revision; all MSM8960 SoC's have EV-DO rev. A/B (doesn't relate to the actual model number).
    09-30-13 12:12 AM
  3. ofutur's Avatar
    The Z30 is identifying it's chip using the EV-DO revision; all MSM8960 SoC's have EV-DO rev. A/B (doesn't relate to the actual model number).
    The OS identifies the chip as MSM8960AB and so does the hardware when you query it. A Z10 or a Q10 will give you MSM8960, a Tigris device MSM8974.

    Here is a list
    MDM1000.ESM6235.QSC6240.MSM6245.MSM6255.MSM6255A.M SM6260.MSM6246.QSC6270.MSM6280.MSM6290.MSM7200.MSM 7201.ESM7205.ESM7206.MSM7200A.MSM7201A.ESM7205A.ES M7206A.ESM7225.MSM7225.MSM7500.MSM7500A.MSM7525.MS M7600.MSM7601.MSM7625.MSM7800.MDM8200.QSD8650.MDM8 900.QST1000.QST1005.QST1100.QST1105.QSD8250.QSD855 0.QSD8850.MDM2000.QST1500.QST1600.QST1700.MSM7227. MSM7627.QSC6165.QSC6175.QSC6185.QSC6195.QSC6285.QS C6295.QSC6695.ESM6246.ESM6290.ESC6270.ESC6240.MDM8 220.MDM9200.MDM9600.MSM7630.MSM7230.ESM7227.MSM762 5-1.MSM7225-1.QSD8250A.QSD8650A.MSM7625-2.MSM7227-1.MSM7627-1.MSM7627-2.MSM8260.MSM8660.MDM8200A.QSC6155.MSM8255.MSM8655 .ESC6295.MDM3000.MDM6200.MDM6600.MDM6210.MDM6610.Q SD8672.MDM6215.MDM6615.APQ8055.APQ8060.MSM8960.MSM 7225A.MSM7625A.MSM7227A.MSM7627A.ESM7227A.QSC6195-2.FSM9200.FSM9800.MSM7225AD1.MSM7227AD1.MSM7225AA. MSM7225AAD1.MSM7625AA.MSM7227AA.MSM7227AAD1.MSM762 7AA.MDM9615.MDM9615M.MDM8215.MDM9215.MDM9215M.APQ8 064.QSC6270D1.QSC6240D1.ESC6270D1.ESC6240D1.MDM627 0.MDM6270D1.MSM8930.MSM8630.MSM8230.APQ8030.MSM862 7.MSM8227.MSM8660A.MSM8260A.APQ8060A.MPQ8062.MSM89 74.MSM8225.MSM8225D1.MSM8625.MPQ8064.MSM7225AB.MSM 7225ABD1.MSM7625AB.MDM9625.MSM7125A.MSM7127A.MSM81 25.MSM8960AB.APQ8060AB.MSM8260AB.MSM8660AB.MSM8930 AA.MSM8630AA.MSM8230AA.MSM8626.MPQ8092.MSM8610.MDM 8225.MDM9225.MDM9225M.MDM9624M.MSM9625M.APQ8064V2P .MSM8930AB.MSM8630AB.MSM8230AB.APQ8030AB.MSM8226.M SM8826.APQ8030AA.MSM8110.MSM8210.MSM8810.MSM8212.M SM8612.MSM8812.MSM8225Q.MSM8625Q.MSM8125Q.MDM9310. APQ8064V2SP.MDM8110M.MDM8615M.MDM9320.MDM9225_1.MD M9225M_1.APQ8084.MSM8130.MSM8130AA.MSM8130AB.MSM86 27AA.MSM8227AA
    I don't see a DT, do you?

    I've seen some Qualcomm tools have an extra "8960 Pro" entry, on top of 8960AB, so I'll check on a real Z30 (as opposed to a X00) to see what it reports. It's probably the family. I'll stick to my theory that 8960AB + MoGoogle chips = 8960DT.
    09-30-13 05:10 AM
  4. ofutur's Avatar
    From the Channel update:
    I thought I would compile a list of what I've found so far regarding the camera side of things on BlackBerry 10 devices.

    CAMERA MODULES
    * 13MP: Sony IMX 135
    * 8MP: Samsung S5K3H7
    * 8MP: Omnivision OV8835
    * 5MP: STMicroelectronics VB6955
    * 2MP; Omnivision OV2720
    * 2MP: Aptina A2030

    CAMERA ISP
    * Fujitsu M9Mo
    * Qualcomm 3A
    Akuji_ism and bbtino like this.
    09-30-13 06:37 AM
  5. Marios199546's Avatar
    From the Channel update:
    I thought I would compile a list of what I've found so far regarding the camera side of things on BlackBerry 10 devices.

    CAMERA MODULES
    * 13MP: Sony IMX 135
    * 8MP: Samsung S5K3H7
    * 8MP: Omnivision OV8835
    * 5MP: STMicroelectronics VB6955
    * 2MP; Omnivision OV2720
    * 2MP: Aptina A2030

    CAMERA ISP
    * Fujitsu M9Mo
    * Qualcomm 3A
    The Omnivision OV8835 is used on the Z30,isnt it ? This sensor is newer that the Sony IMX 135
    09-30-13 08:50 AM
  6. Marios199546's Avatar
    From the Channel update:
    I thought I would compile a list of what I've found so far regarding the camera side of things on BlackBerry 10 devices.

    CAMERA MODULES
    * 13MP: Sony IMX 135
    * 8MP: Samsung S5K3H7
    * 8MP: Omnivision OV8835
    * 5MP: STMicroelectronics VB6955
    * 2MP; Omnivision OV2720
    * 2MP: Aptina A2030

    CAMERA ISP
    * Fujitsu M9Mo
    * Qualcomm 3A
    The Omnivision OV8835 is used on the Z30,isnt it ? This sensor is newer that the Sony IMX 135
    09-30-13 08:53 AM
  7. ofutur's Avatar
    Ok, smarty pants...


    ... the MSM8960DT has a quad-core Adreno 320 (it's the only MSM8960 in the S4Pro family that does)...
    Says who? On top of that the cores are not totally independent.

    ...why would BlackBerry state the Z30 has a quad-core gpu if it's only using the AB version? They wouldn't.
    Yes, they would, because the AB version apparently has the quad-core version of the Adreno 320, according to BlackBerry's press release about the Z30.

    ...Also, why would Qualcomm list the DT in currently available SoC's if it's only for the Moto X? They wouldn't...
    Where is this famous list? I'm still waiting for your Qualcomm documents btw.

    The BlackBerry BB10 phones only list the generic model number for the family, not the full SoC model number.

    Same thing when I query my Galaxy Nexus, it gives the generic family.
    Sure, if you ask BB10 to give you the answer via its UI, but not when you query QNX via config and info files.

    That's from a Z10 and I'm still waiting for someone to do the same on a retail Z30...
    Updated model numbers and names-img_20130806.jpg
    09-30-13 09:00 AM
  8. ofutur's Avatar
    The Omnivision OV8835 is used on the Z30,isnt it ? This sensor is newer that the Sony IMX 135
    I believe so. The sony chip was for the AQ series.
    09-30-13 09:02 AM
  9. Marios199546's Avatar
    I believe so. The sony chip was for the AQ series.
    Are you sure about there is not another 13mp sensor ?This is odd
    09-30-13 09:14 AM
  10. ofutur's Avatar
    Are you sure about there is not another 13mp sensor ?This is odd
    They have some older modules used for development I think
    Sony IU074F & Samsung S5K3L1
    09-30-13 09:23 AM
  11. ofutur's Avatar
    It was brought to my attention that I may be wrong about the Q5 and it's true that I didn't spend much time on it when I started this list and I was only beginning my exploration, so after digging through my notes, I went through the OS again to try and find the answer.
    Sure enough, the Q5 is an underclocked version of the Q10, as reported by a few blogs. Other blogs are still listing it as using a Snapdragon 400, so does Qualcomm...

    A friend also helped me confirm it from a real device. Thanks Adam!
    Attachment 207078
    Attachment 207079
    10-02-13 06:55 AM
  12. ofutur's Avatar
    From the Channel:
    Hearing Aid support for Z10, Z30, Caf, Kopi
    While trying to confirm whether or not Miracast was removed from the c-series (it has), I stumbled upon configuration changes for hearing aid support (closed caption). Not all devices have it for now, but maybe it's just because it's too early to tell.

    10-02-13 07:43 AM
  13. Marios199546's Avatar
    From the Channel:
    Hearing Aid support for Z10, Z30, Caf, Kopi
    While trying to confirm whether or not Miracast was removed from the c-series (it has), I stumbled upon configuration changes for hearing aid support (closed caption). Not all devices have it for now, but maybe it's just because it's too early to tell.

    Aid support? What is it?
    10-02-13 07:59 AM
  14. ofutur's Avatar
    Aid support? What is it?
    When you're 83 years old, like me, you sometimes need the help of an electronic device in order to hear properly. Some TV programs or radio shows can connect directly to this device in order to give the listener a better experience.
    I'm sure this will make some people very happy.
    10-02-13 08:15 AM
  15. ofutur's Avatar
    Hey oftur is there any indication of what file systems the 10.2.1(the z30's os?) supports - is it only fat32 or is exfat and ntfs supported? Doesn't make much of a difference if it's for the sd but I'm thinking in terms of usb otg?

    Posted via CB10
    ExFat support has been added to 10.2.1
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    10-02-13 08:57 AM
  16. sayf777's Avatar
    ExFat support has been added to 10.2.1
    Thanks for the info

    Posted via CB10
    10-02-13 10:10 AM
  17. nuke99's Avatar
    Would be nice if they can make AQ happens. It's a s4 specs camera and with ac Internet bandwidth.
    Maybe 10.3 to support Quad core and 64 bits. Best of best. That would sell.

    But cancelled. Z 30 should have Aq specs imho


    I read with so much z10 in warehouse. Just sell them cheap. Get more users in developing countries. No need for kopi specs. But I'm sure they already knew.

    Posted via CB10
    10-02-13 09:10 PM
  18. ofutur's Avatar
    Screenshot from a Z30, confirming the MSM8960AB Soc AKA the S4 Pro AKA the 8960 Pro. Thank you Stphane!
    Updated model numbers and names-z30_specs.jpg
    10-03-13 08:41 AM
  19. Daniel Rudolf's Avatar
    Anything new updates?
    10-29-13 10:09 AM
  20. ofutur's Avatar
    Nothing interesting in these troubled times I'm afraid... but I'm expecting things to get back to life from next week.
    10-31-13 06:00 PM
  21. ofutur's Avatar
    Seems the new Curves (Kopi) won't be getting LTE. The cheap touch will though...
    11-12-13 12:38 PM
  22. sayf777's Avatar
    I'd like a rehash of the z10 (size wise), with a newer chipset with support for miracast, wifi direct, usb otg and removable battery.

    Sorry when was the 1st post edited with the o and w series?


    Posted via CB10
    11-12-13 03:33 PM
  23. eldricho's Avatar
    The Kopi is still set for release? I thought it was a Q5, but just with a removable battery and a little faster processor
    Thought they wouldn't go on with it

    Posted via CB10
    11-12-13 03:56 PM
  24. ofutur's Avatar
    I'd like a rehash of the z10 (size wise), with a newer chipset with support for miracast, wifi direct, usb otg and removable battery.

    Sorry when was the 1st post edited with the o and w series?
    O and W were added a while back, in September I think.

    Latest info I found is confusing... Windermere seems to have a 1440x1440 screen resolution or an area of that size for the keyboard is they go dual screen.

    The Kopi is still set for release? I thought it was a Q5, but just with a removable battery and a little faster processor
    Thought they wouldn't go on with it
    I'm also surprised to still see progress and testing on Kopi... Especially if they've delayed the release of the device...
    11-12-13 05:54 PM
  25. Pallavgarg10's Avatar
    1440x1440 screen resolution is odd indeed
    STW is a touch only device is it not
    So how come it has a qwerty like resolution
    11-15-13 08:51 PM
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