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  1. thurask's Avatar
    What OIS?

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    Optical Image Stabilization

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image...ion#Techniques

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    06-23-14 10:26 PM
  2. Tank1978's Avatar
    Optical Image Stabilization

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image...ion#Techniques

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    Camera improvements are good!

    Posted via CB10
    06-23-14 10:42 PM
  3. UrbanGlowCam's Avatar
    This is great. But you don't see that for the Classic I'm guessing?
    06-23-14 10:55 PM
  4. thurask's Avatar
    This is great. But you don't see that for the Classic I'm guessing?
    Probably not. The Classic's rear camera looks like the usual BB10 setup, much smaller than what the Passport has. OIS requires more room around the lens for the hardware to move things around.
    06-23-14 11:20 PM
  5. UrbanGlowCam's Avatar
    Probably not. The Classic's rear camera looks like the usual BB10 setup, much smaller than what the Passport has. OIS requires more room around the lens for the hardware to move things around.
    I figured it would require more space, but the Classic is bigger than the Q10. A friend that handled the Classic at the AGM said it felt thicker than the Q10 even. But I do see it being more of a marginal upgrade with specs closer to the Z30 at most.

    Still hoping for some changes that aren't reflected in the OS.
    06-24-14 12:31 AM
  6. MAJ009's Avatar
    Okay, new SDK, new thing to play with. So far:

    • Manitoba exists (720x1280 screen, Z30 radio, R146/R147)
    • Passport will have wireless charging
    • P9983 confirmed
    • Passport has ANX7808 Slimport transmitter
    • Passport probably has OIS
    • Passport keypad is probably backlit (why else would it have GLO?)


    Attachment 279943
    Attachment 279944
    Still no sign of any touch flagship I guess...
    Also please enlighten if all apps would be compatible with the passport?

    CAUTION : MAJ On Z30 Now!!!!
    06-24-14 01:39 AM
  7. smart548's Avatar
    Great news for the passport! If it will run all of the Z apps as it seems,it would be awesome!

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    06-24-14 03:31 AM
  8. hashtagwinning's Avatar
    I wonder how much the Z3 LTE will cost with the upgraded screen?
    And I saw Ontario mentioned? That's a good sign
    06-24-14 03:38 AM
  9. ofutur's Avatar
    Okay, new SDK, new thing to play with. So far:

    • Manitoba exists (720x1280 screen, Z30 radio, R146/R147)
    • Passport will have wireless charging
    • P9983 confirmed
    • Passport has ANX7808 Slimport transmitter
    • Passport probably has OIS
    • Passport keypad is probably backlit (why else would it have GLO?)
    I wonder if Manitoba isn't just a Z30 refresh, made by Foxconn... The Z30 radio tells us it's not the old Ontario.

    Regarding the wireless charging, I though that was the reason they were not showing the back, but then many current models can be charged wirelessly, so I don't see the novelty...

    I don't get the P9983... they could have gone with a Porsche version of the classic instead of using the failed Q10 as the basis...

    I'll look for OIS

    Yes, the Passport's keypad is backlit. (We could see it on the various pics and videos taken at the meeting)
    06-24-14 04:57 AM
  10. ofutur's Avatar
    Updated devicemap:
    ...
    0x04002e0a:Unknown:Unknown:Unknown:Unknown Z3 LTE
    0x05002e0a:Unknown:Unknown:Unknown:Unknown Z3 LTE
    0x86002c0a:Unknown:Unknown:Unknown:Unknown Passport
    ...
    0xa400080a:Unknown:Unknown:BlackBerry Unknown:Unknown -- Dev Alpha X?
    0xae00240a:Unknown:Unknown:BlackBerry Unknown:Unknown Ontario
    0xaf00240a:Unknown:Unknown:BlackBerry Unknown:Unknown Ontario
    0xb400240a:Unknown:Unknown:BlackBerry Unknown:Unknown Ontario
    0xb600240a:Unknown:Unknown:BlackBerry Unknown:Unknown Ontario
    0xbc00240a:Unknown:Unknown:BlackBerry Unknown:Unknown -- Ontario?
    06-24-14 05:46 AM
  11. kb61's Avatar
    So ontario still in development? :/
    06-24-14 05:53 AM
  12. ofutur's Avatar
    So ontario still in development? :/
    Yeah, it's really strange... this OS is all about Windermere, Manitoba and Ontario...
    06-24-14 06:14 AM
  13. kb61's Avatar
    I always thought that they would eventually bring another flagship full touch device. I mean if it was all about cost saving and being good in a niche keyboard market, why would they have decided to offer 10.3.1 for z30 and z10 as well? Maybe because in the long run another full touch device could make use of that development...?!
    06-24-14 06:30 AM
  14. ruhban's Avatar
    Okay, new SDK, new thing to play with. So far:

    • Manitoba exists (720x1280 screen, Z30 radio, R146/R147)
    • Passport will have wireless charging
    • P9983 confirmed
    • Passport has ANX7808 Slimport transmitter
    • Passport probably has OIS
    • Passport keypad is probably backlit (why else would it have GLO?)


    Attachment 279943
    Attachment 279944
    So will a mini/micro HDMI cable (the one I use with my Z10) work with the Passport's Slimport?

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    06-24-14 07:00 AM
  15. ofutur's Avatar
    So will a mini/micro HDMI cable (the one I use with my Z10) work with the Passport's Slimport?

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    No. You need a slimport-to-HDMI adapter
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    06-24-14 07:11 AM
  16. ofutur's Avatar
    Lots of bands in the NA version of Manitoba

    • R146 - ManitobaNA NA H-1,2,4,5,6 / LTE-1,2,4,5,7,13,17,25
    • R147 - ManitobaROW ROW H-1,2,5,6,8 / LTE-1,3,7,8,20


    2.4GHz wifi only, no HDMI and no NFC
    Last edited by ofutur; 06-24-14 at 08:33 AM.
    06-24-14 07:11 AM
  17. MAJ009's Avatar
    Lots of bands in the NA version of Manitoba

    • R146 - ManitobaNA NA H-1,2,4,5,6 / LTE-1,2,4,5,7,13,17,25
    • R147 - ManitobaROW ROW H-1,2,5,6,8 / LTE-1,3,7,8,20
    Any hints at Ontario specs would be appreciated

    CAUTION : MAJ On Z30 Now!!!!
    06-24-14 07:19 AM
  18. ofutur's Avatar
    Any hints at Ontario specs would be appreciated

    CAUTION : MAJ On Z30 Now!!!!
    Hasn't changed: 5" 1080p, 8974
    06-24-14 07:25 AM
  19. mathking606's Avatar
    Hasn't changed: 5" 1080p, 8974
    The manitoba is the lte z3 I think. James nieve of berryflow and n4bb said this on one of the podcast from what he has been told by BlackBerry employees

    Posted by my ZZZZZ33000
    06-24-14 07:31 AM
  20. ofutur's Avatar
    New 12MP Samsung S5K3L1 camera, only used for the development board.

    Passport is going to use the 13MP Sony IMX 135, with a 2MP front camera
    Same config for Ontario.

    Classic and Manitoba are going to use the 2013 config (Z10, Q10)
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    06-24-14 07:34 AM
  21. ofutur's Avatar
    Looks like the Dev Alpha X is a Tigris based 720p device used to test the new Wifi capabilities.
    06-24-14 08:09 AM
  22. ofutur's Avatar
    A FAQ on Slimport

    The SlimPort family of products offers additional features beyond basic DisplayPort and MYDP™ functionality:

    • Using a single mobile USB connector for data-sync, power-charging, and uncompressed protected contents delivery to an external big screen display.
    • Integrated USB switch, compliant with IC-USB specifications, to reduce the Bill of Materials cost for mobile devices.
    • Integrated downstream mobile accessory detect mechanism to reduce the Bill of Materials cost for mobile devices.
    • Direct connectivity to HDTVs, monitors, and projectors using VGA, DVI, HDMI and DisplayPort interfaces.
    • Reduced power consumption with Analogix proprietary power recovery techniques.
    • Ability to charge mobile devices while being connected to HD displays using HDMI and DisplayPort.


    Analogix

    HDMI converter
    http://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-...UvbUpU10514396
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    06-24-14 09:10 AM
  23. Tank1978's Avatar
    A FAQ on Slimport

    The SlimPort family of products offers additional features beyond basic DisplayPort and MYDP functionality:

    • Using a single mobile USB connector for data-sync, power-charging, and uncompressed protected contents delivery to an external big screen display.
    • Integrated USB switch, compliant with IC-USB specifications, to reduce the Bill of Materials cost for mobile devices.
    • Integrated downstream mobile accessory detect mechanism to reduce the Bill of Materials cost for mobile devices.
    • Direct connectivity to HDTVs, monitors, and projectors using VGA, DVI, HDMI and DisplayPort interfaces.
    • Reduced power consumption with Analogix proprietary power recovery techniques.
    • Ability to charge mobile devices while being connected to HD displays using HDMI and DisplayPort.


    Analogix

    HDMI converter
    http://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-...UvbUpU10514432
    Awesome, so I can basically hook up my phone directly to my tv??

    Posted via CB10
    06-24-14 09:18 AM
  24. ofutur's Avatar
    ...via an adapter which also lets you charge the phone by plugging in the standard charger.
    06-24-14 09:20 AM
  25. ruhban's Avatar
    New 12MP Samsung S5K3L1 camera, only used for the development board.

    Passport is going to use the 13MP Sony IMX 135, with a 2MP front camera
    Same config for Ontario.

    Classic and Manitoba are going to use the 2013 config (Z10, Q10)
    What's wrong with the 13mp Sony camera?

    Posted via CB10
    06-24-14 10:02 AM
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