11-12-13 01:34 AM
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  1. kevinnugent's Avatar
    So, is the rumour true? Heins got paid $22m USD today to go away?
    richardat likes this.
    11-05-13 04:09 AM
  2. Elite1's Avatar
    I've had a busy day outside of CrackBerry life, so I haven't followed every detail...

    But I understand that technically we're not informed that Heins is let go, but will be stepping down as CEO and leaving Board of Directors.
    So while it's probably a safe assumption, there's still a chance that he be assuming a position like COO or VP of something. IF that was teh case, I'm not sure how the whole "golden parachute" thing would work.
    11-05-13 04:16 AM
  3. kevinnugent's Avatar
    I've had a busy day outside of CrackBerry life, so I haven't followed every detail...

    But I understand that technically we're not informed that Heins is let go, but will be stepping down as CEO and leaving Board of Directors.
    So while it's probably a safe assumption, there's still a chance that he be assuming a position like COO or VP of something. IF that was teh case, I'm not sure how the whole "golden parachute" thing would work.
    Hmmm. He's been sh$tcanned. And paid $22m. He's not staying. Will be interesting to see if his Canadian citizenship is ever used again.
    11-05-13 05:07 AM
  4. Frank2029's Avatar
    Blackberry needed someone younger and more enthusiastic. Heins sounded like he had no clue what was going on and was always so monotone. Even his hairstyle was out of date... What blackberry needs to do is get with the times. Get developers to get up off their *** and do some proper coding. Some of the same apps released on BB10 have less features then OS7. Does that make any sense at all? I hope chen will do a good job because if not my z10 (which i love) will be my last BB.
    11-05-13 06:00 AM
  5. DOCTOREVIL8's Avatar
    And his hands were just WAY too big to be showcasing the beautiful BB10 phones. They looked so tiny when he held them.

    As long as he didn't get his $55.6 million for burying the company, I'm a happy dude. Putting in my order for a Z30 today!
    11-05-13 06:10 AM
  6. richardat's Avatar
    Oh rest assured Heins got at least the 22. Quite possibly more and quite possibly invisibly.

    Indeed, it is a sad day for him....now he feels the bitter sting of the BB employee who has been let go.....or even the hourly worker, living paycheck to paycheck, below the poverty line, in some cases trying to support a family. Tears well up for me when I think of the hard times ahead for the Heins family. What to do?? Scramble out there, desperately looking for a job before ending up on the streets? Perhaps every morning down to Labor Unlimited to look for a day gig? Perhaps to take a cushy government or academic advisory position, requiring him to show up for a meeting once every couple of months? A board position from one of his big friends? Write a book? Or perhaps spend his days in luxury accommodation, yet in a personal agony, thinking over and over of the PB owners he lied to.....or the investors, or the bb10 owners.....yes, perhaps he will spend the remainder of his days on a personal quest to make things right for them. Retreating to the basement to work on that bb10 for pb build......while during the day: searching for the real killers of Brown and Goldman.
    11-05-13 07:15 AM
  7. sigint99's Avatar
    Only in the corporate or government world can an executive be rewarded for their incompetence.

    Hein's legacy as CEO of BlackBerry will be used as a blueprint for managerial failure.
    11-05-13 10:44 AM
  8. SEAWARRIOR's Avatar
    Hmmm. He's been sh$tcanned. And paid $22m. He's not staying. Will be interesting to see if his Canadian citizenship is ever used again.
    i wondered why he did that to begin w/??? prob a better tax rate than Germany...
    11-05-13 01:41 PM
  9. richardat's Avatar
    I've had a busy day outside of CrackBerry life, so I haven't followed every detail...
    Oooooo.....oo.....um...oooosss.......ooostyyye? OATside?

    What is this guy talking about?!!!!
    sheeraz_aa, 00stryder and JeepBB like this.
    11-05-13 03:42 PM
  10. PaulPaul49's Avatar
    Heins was a muppett

    Posted via CB10
    11-05-13 03:47 PM
  11. jegs2's Avatar
    Only in the corporate or government world can an executive be rewarded for their incompetence.
    Only at the highest levels is that true though. The executives below the CEO level can just be told to pack their office and be gone, before security comes to escort them out.
    xiaohuaxing and JeepBB like this.
    11-05-13 04:14 PM
  12. Sargon123's Avatar
    Poor heins? He's sitting on millions...

    Posted via CB10
    11-05-13 04:14 PM
  13. FSeverino's Avatar
    Poor heins? He's sitting on millions...

    Posted via CB10
    half a stack of what he was expecting though...
    11-05-13 09:52 PM
  14. Chicago777Guy's Avatar
    50 M is not expensive to get rid of him considering the billions he has already costed shareholders.

    Posted via CB10
    11-06-13 12:01 AM
  15. DS1331's Avatar
    Lol everyone wants to complain and cry about the CEO who was thrust into a dieing company. Watch the most recent CB poacast maybe you'll actually learn something

    Sent from my Nexus 7 using CB Forums mobile app
    11-06-13 12:05 AM
  16. kevinnugent's Avatar
    Lol everyone wants to complain and cry about the CEO who was thrust into a dieing company. Watch the most recent CB poacast maybe you'll actually learn something

    Sent from my Nexus 7 using CB Forums mobile app
    Oh, he was thrust? Gee, I thought he had the power of independent thought.
    11-06-13 02:37 AM
  17. rebroker2009's Avatar
    He was so lucky to be put there, wish I had the chance, he just blew it! If only he listened to crackberry nation instead!



    Q10 running10.2.1.641 leak and loving it!
    11-06-13 03:01 AM
  18. Blacklatino's Avatar
    So, is the rumour true? Heins got paid $22m USD today to go away?
    Damn! That's still a very good payday. I would not be surprised if that were true. If so, nice severance.

    Posted on my sexxy Q10 (*_~)
    11-06-13 03:17 AM
  19. richardat's Avatar
    Lol everyone wants to complain and cry about the CEO who was thrust into a dieing company. Watch the most recent CB poacast maybe you'll actually learn something

    Sent from my Nexus 7 using CB Forums mobile app
    Interesting reasoning. So BB was hopeless (glad you agree with that by the way), so it doesn't matter that Heins decisions were royal disasters....and therefore why complain if he is rewarded tens of millions.

    I bet lots of people would like a job where nothing they do really matters and a several months later they get tens of millions.
    techvisor and DS1331 like this.
    11-06-13 03:23 AM
  20. xiaohuaxing's Avatar
    Interesting reasoning. So BB was hopeless (glad you agree with that by the way), so it doesn't matter that Heins decisions were royal disasters....and therefore why complain if he is rewarded tens of millions.

    I bet lots of people would like a job where nothing they do really matters and a several months later they get tens of millions.
    The point of any severance package is that you get paid while you look for another job, and sometimes with a clause that says you can't sue for unlawful termination, so kind of like a liability insurance policy baked in.

    The higher the position the higher the severance because it will take you longer to get another job, the highest of which is of course a CEO position. There was a high risk associated with this job because if the person failed to turn the company around (high probability), he would have a poor reputation and it would be hard to impossible to get another job of a similar level.

    I think the assumption is you can make a random guy CEO and he should be grateful for the chance. But in reality if you want top talent with a proven track record you probably have to pay top dollar, which I don't think this is considered to be.

    Posted via CB10
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    11-06-13 03:49 AM
  21. buwee's Avatar
    Blackberry needed someone younger and more enthusiastic. Heins sounded like he had no clue what was going on and was always so monotone. Even his hairstyle was out of date... What blackberry needs to do is get with the times. Get developers to get up off their *** and do some proper coding. Some of the same apps released on BB10 have less features then OS7. Does that make any sense at all? I hope chen will do a good job because if not my z10 (which i love) will be my last BB.
    Yep, and this the same guy that declared Tablets are a dying breed - LOL
    11-06-13 03:54 AM
  22. bobauckland's Avatar
    Absolute muppet.
    His radio silence and lack of communications highlights what a conman he is.
    There are thousands of unemployed people who poured their heart into BlackBerry because of him, and he's walking away with millions.
    Disgusting.
    kevinnugent, m1a1mg and techvisor like this.
    11-06-13 03:59 AM
  23. nemo7's Avatar
    To be honest I am glad that he is out of game. He was not the man for this job. BB10 has a lot potential. Next one plz

    Posted via BlackBerry Z810
    11-06-13 05:07 AM
  24. Blacklatino's Avatar
    To be honest I am glad that he is out of game. He was not the man for this job. BB10 has a lot potential. Next one plz

    Posted via BlackBerry Z810
    No argument here.

    Posted on my sexxy Q10 (*_~)
    11-06-13 05:52 AM
  25. PineappleUnderTheSea's Avatar
    Heins did make some mistakes, releasing the Z10 instead of the Q10 was a blunder--ignoring your user base to instead "compete" with a touch screen was a big kick in the nuts to the BB brand, should have stayed focus on the business side of things and released a "consumer" phone after the Q10. Instead the Z10 lukewarm reception basically killed acceptance of the Q10. Nice going. They should have anticipated that the Z10 wouldn't compete effectively, especially since marketing was zero.

    And this is where I disagree with Chris Umiastowski: he believes BB had to layoff all these people to get lean and that's a good thing. Sure, a strategic layoff is good to get rid of duplication, but in this case I think BB laid off so many people that they don't have enough of a baseline to keep developing new hardware and software. So the BB we knew back then is gone, I don't know how they'll keep developing new and exciting handsets with so few people. Likely BB will become a service company, I don't know...
    11-06-13 10:05 AM
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