1. Prem WatsApp's Avatar
    Apparently, a Chinese manufacturing plant for smartphone parts is run by 90% robots now. That means realistically, production could be brought back to home markets, like the US or Canada ...?

    So it's location independent. Or not. Maybe, and that's a guess, their environmental regulations are not as strict, and other costs like insurance, electricity and the residual labor costs might still be too high to compete in this cut-throat market.

    Chinese factory replaces 90% of humans with robots, production soars - TechRepublic

    What's your take?

    :-D

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    08-18-15 11:15 PM
  2. SuperionMaximus's Avatar
    There's nothing left to bring back home. BlackBerry won't be producing phones long enough to worry about who or what puts them together. Android isn't a magic bean that is going to grow a bean-stock to the market share sky for John Chen to climb and steal the golden egg of profit from the evil industry giants.

    BlackBerry is DONE in the hardware business. BlackBerry 10, Android, or Windows Phone. It's not going to boost sales. BlackBerry is a software and services company now. We will all just have to get used to it
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  3. audio_Rx's Avatar
    There's nothing left to bring back home. BlackBerry won't be producing phones long enough to worry about who or what puts them together. Android isn't a magic bean that is going to grow a bean-stock to the market share sky for John Chen to climb and steal the golden egg of profit from the evil industry giants.

    BlackBerry is DONE in the hardware business. BlackBerry 10, Android, or Windows Phone. It's not going to boost sales. BlackBerry is a software and services company now. We will all just have to get used to it
    Holy negativity.

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    08-19-15 07:37 AM
  4. BeautyEh's Avatar
    Batman.


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    08-19-15 12:52 PM
  5. Have_a_nice_day's Avatar
    There's nothing left to bring back home. BlackBerry won't be producing phones long enough to worry about who or what puts them together.
    I don't think PremWasabi was referring to BlackBerry handsets in particular, but more to the mobile industry in general.




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  6. Foreverup's Avatar
    Might be independent now but it is still way cheaper to make it over seas. Both Canada and USA need to do more to support manufacturing if they want to compete in a global market.
    08-19-15 08:35 PM
  7. Tkarps's Avatar
    Might be independent now but it is still way cheaper to make it over seas. Both Canada and USA need to do more to support manufacturing if they want to compete in a global market.
    Not true. Germany does not discount and they're doing fine. It's about innovation, efficiencies and tooling to help get you there. Labour is only part of the puzzle.

    Tim

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    08-19-15 09:24 PM
  8. lactose's Avatar
    Automation is going to be a bigger deal than most people think. See the short documentary "Humans Need Not Apply"
    08-20-15 11:39 AM
  9. CarbonKevin's Avatar
    While the costs of automated production are essentially the same around the world, with the exception of power and infrastructure requirements, there is more to the manufacturing picture that must be taken into account.

    Base electronic components are going to be made on Asia for the foreseeable future. Cheap labor, lax environmental laws, and plentiful resources means that won't change anytime soon.

    Bringing the components from Asia to North America isn't cheap.

    Also, the initial cost automated production is higher here - human labor, shipping these robots from Asia and Europe, more stringent building codes, etc.

    Robots need to be maintained and checked from time to time - those people cost more money in North America than they do in Asia.

    Now, over a massively large production run, those incidental costs become negligible, but that isn't the scale BlackBerry is working at right now.


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    08-20-15 12:31 PM
  10. Prem WatsApp's Avatar
    I don't think PremWasabi was referring to BlackBerry handsets in particular, but more to the mobile industry in general.




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    Yes, thanks, I was talking mobile industry in general, actually, also including a lot more industries that have gone overseas.

    I'm not hot enough to be PremWasabi... ;-)

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    08-20-15 05:35 PM
  11. bp2k7's Avatar
    Apple had brought manufacturing for their high margin Mac Pro models back to the US pretty much for the very reason outlined by OP. Plus, "Made in USA" makes for good business right now.

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    08-21-15 12:35 AM
  12. sentimentGX4's Avatar
    Not true. Germany does not discount and they're doing fine. It's about innovation, efficiencies and tooling to help get you there. Labour is only part of the puzzle.

    Tim

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    A sizable portion of Germany's trade is within the European Union (where it has preferential trade terms), though, and Europe is a structural, economic disaster. You don't need to be super competitive to flourish in Europe.

    If Tesla/Apple/Google ever revolutionize the automotive industry, Germany is guaranteed to take the shaft due to Europe's technological weakness. Apple will eat three-fourths of the pie and the Asians will eat the rest. It will be a replay of what happened to Nokia in the mobile revolution.
    Last edited by sentimentGX4; 08-21-15 at 04:20 AM.
    08-21-15 04:07 AM

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