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  1. Ginowine's Avatar
    It's just rumors I guess.

    Posted via CB10
    06-20-14 05:21 AM
  2. DJM626's Avatar
    So much for Thors statement about keeping the phone for 10 years
    06-20-14 05:34 AM
  3. stabstabdie's Avatar
    So much for Thors statement about keeping the phone for 10 years
    Thor's gone dude
    06-20-14 05:51 AM
  4. qwerty4ever's Avatar
    You think that people are going to keep the current BlackBerry phones for 5 years? Come on let's be realistic nobody is keeping anything for 5 years. Furthermore, nobody goes out looking for something that is "sufficient". That's a strategy to kill off BlackBerry completely.

    Posted using my Z10 via CB10
    I use my electronic devices until they can no longer meet my needs. I still use the BlackBerry PlayBook which I have owned since release on April 19, 2011. It won't evolve in terms of software or applications but it meets my needs for the foreseeable future since BlackBerry doesn't seem interested in releasing a next-generation tablet. I'd still be using my BlackBerry Bold 9700/9780s if there were no BlackBerry 10 smartphones.
    Ragbert likes this.
    06-20-14 08:07 PM
  5. donnation's Avatar
    What OS is installed on the Z3, then? And really, 10.1, 10.2, and 10.2.1 weren't major updates? What exactly constitutes a major update, then?
    What's a Z3? That phone is just a ghost that was launched and never mentioned again.
    11-21-14 05:22 PM
  6. Bluenoser63's Avatar
    BlackBerry 10.4 will spell EOL (end of life) for the Q10, Q5, Z30, Z10 and Z3. They may receive minor updates when to get some features but won't receive the core 10.4 os. This may be due to new hardware and going 64-bit. The old devices will probably be sold to developing countries for around the same price as the Z3 is currently.

    Attachment 277887

    Posted via my BeastBerry Z30
    I can BS on this one. If they are EOL a series of devices, then it will be smarter to be BB11 and not BB10.4.
    zoomlink1 likes this.
    11-21-14 07:01 PM
  7. mithrazor's Avatar
    Surprised they were still producing Z10s considering it was a flop.

    Posted via CB10
    11-21-14 07:01 PM
  8. Bluenoser63's Avatar
    Might be possible they will EOL the whole Z10.
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    Posted via my BeastBerry Z30
    You don't even know the difference between EOL and end of production. And if you think that they are still manufacturing Z10 devices, you are crazy. They are most likely not producing the Q5, Q10 and Z30 anymore either. Probably stopped making them spring/summer this year. Doesn't mean they are EOL.
    11-21-14 07:04 PM
  9. Bluenoser63's Avatar
    I agree that going so far past everyone on specs won't really help move devices. However, they need to be on par with the competition on visual things like screen sizes and resolutions that people are buying to remove barriers from people considering the device. Right now they have low res smaller screens, and a horrible app situation. Both need to be addressed or sales will never grow.

    Posted with a BlackBerry Z10
    Stop with the screen crap. People seem to be very happy with Apple's retina display.
    11-21-14 07:08 PM
  10. grahamf's Avatar
    According to the information in the original post, the Passport and Classic are still supported. What specs do they have that are demanded of in 10.4 that even the Z30 doesn't have? Heck we could just limit the number of running apps like we did on the Z3.
    Bluenoser63 likes this.
    11-21-14 07:31 PM
  11. Bluenoser63's Avatar
    According to the information in the original post, the Passport and Classic are still supported. What specs do they have that are demanded of in 10.4 that even the Z30 doesn't have? Heck we could just limit the number of running apps like we did on the Z3.
    Yes. Can someone change the thread title and replace EOL with end of production. Will be more realistic rumor. LOL
    11-21-14 07:42 PM
  12. tchocky77's Avatar
    Not only that, but the 4s doesn't even run ios7 good

    Posted via CB10
    They're separated by more than two years. That it runs iOS 7 at all is impressive.

    Posted via the CrackBerry App for Android
    11-21-14 09:30 PM
  13. Fret Madden's Avatar
    They're separated by more than two years. That it runs iOS 7 at all is impressive.

    Posted via the CrackBerry App for Android
    Wife has iOS 8 on her 4s. Not the latest version, but definitely 8. She had to delete a bunch of apps, but it runs pretty good.

    Posted via CB10
    11-21-14 09:37 PM
  14. texn884's Avatar
    Oh the good ol days of 10.1.0
    11-21-14 09:44 PM
  15. Matty's Avatar
    IF and that's a very important if, if BlackBerry were to release 10.4 in September-ish next year and that meant that all BlackBerry devices excluding "Passport & Classic" would not receive the update, this means that the Classic will not be receiving a Z30 spec or a Q10 but a total different chip.

    So guessing it will be similar to the Passport but maybe a 600 variant. I don't really mind this whole "End Of Life" thing because look how many people are still using Bolds and they don't mind that they not getting "all the latest stuff"

    1st Gen: Q5 / Q10 / P'9983 / Z3 / Z10 / P'9982 / Z30

    2nd Gen: Classic / Passport / "Visa" / "Rio" /???

    I'm quite excited for the new devices coming and I'm sure I would upgrade to one of them sooner or later

    Sorry for the long post here are some. Potatoes


    [Rumor] BlackBerry OS 10.4 Spells EOL-img_20141122_112343_edit.png

    Posted via BlackBerry Q5 on 10.2.1.3442
    11-22-14 03:24 AM
  16. thurask's Avatar
    What's a Z3? That phone is just a ghost that was launched and never mentioned again.
    Gravedigging is bad.

    Anyway, the first post looks to be the usual "exclusive" that someone pulled out from where the sun don't shine.
    11-22-14 04:39 AM
  17. Prem WatsApp's Avatar
    10.2.2 us coming it is a security update for the Germans.

    Posted via CB10
    It's the so-called Merkel-OS ;-)

    ? ? ? Qchen ? ? ?
    11-22-14 05:07 AM
  18. Prem WatsApp's Avatar
    Thanks Troy. I do understand that the carriers are not obligated to upgrade the hardware, but I did think they had some obligation to push software updates - hence all the screaming from customers when they lag behind. That's not such a big deal now that we can update our own phones with autoloaders or Sachesi.

    My real concern is that my particular contract isn't over until Aug. 2015. I'm not eligible for a hardware upgrade before then, either (unless VZW changes its terms), and I can't afford to buy a 2nd phone outright while I'm paying this one off. I was ok with that in the beginning, since I really love my Q10 and was in no rush to replace it. I did think, however, that I'd be able to keep my phone's OS up to date through the end of the contract, and even beyond.

    The poster who compared this to Microsoft ending support for XP didn't really make a parallel analogy; XP was supported for many years, even long after Windows 7 was being phased out for Windows 8 in new PCs. And with a PC you can upgrade your hardware yourself at any time.

    10.2.1 has been out for less than a year. And the Q10 - a year? The upcoming Classic is supposed to have the same or similar processor as the Q10, correct? So if I can finally buy a Classic in 2015 when my contract is up, I could end up buying something already obsolete, and nearing its EOL. Maybe it already won't run 10.4 either. None of this makes any sense for the markets that require these long multi-year carrier contracts - you're basically committed to old technology as soon as you sign one.





    Posted with my Q10, SQN100-2, 10.2.1.2947/2274 Radio
    Yes, the Classic's reportedly low specs actually give hope for long-term support of first-generation BB10 devices.

    Enterprise won't play the silly (yearly or what,Timmy!) upgrade game, they expect longevity. The Bold has lasted quite a while, is still sold and supported. And so are older iPhones ....

    :-)


    ? ? ? Qchen ? ? ?
    anon(8908445) likes this.
    11-22-14 05:38 AM
  19. Toodeurep's Avatar
    Gravedigging is bad.

    Anyway, the first post looks to be the usual "exclusive" that someone pulled out from where the sun don't shine.
    Especially now that the Passport and Classic are more than just rumored devices.

    Why in the 7734 is this thread back from the abyss anyway smh.
    11-22-14 06:31 AM
  20. anon3923428's Avatar
    Here's what gets me. All current bb10 phones are dual core snap dragons that have the capability to run 64bit OS. I doubt it's a processor issue and more so a RAM issue. 10.4 may be packing more RAM utilization and that may be the reason why the First Gens will EOL. Look at the passport and Porsche variations, they carry 3 gigs of RAM and not listed as EOF. It's safe to also assume that the classic may have 3 gigs of RAM also since it's not listed as EOF when 10.4 drops. (Food for thought)

    Posted via CB10
    11-22-14 06:47 AM
  21. light_barer's Avatar
    Would these new 'updated' phones with all this ram and all those extra cores be marketed for the enterprise crowd or the consumer crowd?
    11-22-14 07:50 AM
  22. Have_a_nice_day's Avatar
    Very old news,

    Cannot choose between glas or plastic keyboard
    11-22-14 11:08 AM
  23. Rootbrian's Avatar
    Rumours are just rumours. You can always load up allot more device software. Wait until BlackBerry makes the announcements. This thread is so... Old now.

    Sent from my BlackBerry Bold 9900 using Tapatalk
    11-23-14 04:23 AM
  24. sentimentGX4's Avatar
    Here's what gets me. All current bb10 phones are dual core snap dragons that have the capability to run 64bit OS.
    The Passport is a quad core device and no existing Blackberry device supports 64-bit OSes.
    11-24-14 01:46 AM
  25. anon3923428's Avatar
    The Passport is a quad core device and no existing Blackberry device supports 64-bit OSes.
    How do you know this. Dual core processors can run 64 bit Operating Systems. Single cores cannot. BlackBerry devices have dual core processors so I highly doubt that the limitations come from the Processors. It may be the RAM that is the issue.

    Posted via CB10
    11-24-14 05:32 AM
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