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  1. Blackberry_Boss's Avatar
    BlackBerry 10.4 will spell EOL (end of life) for the Q10, Q5, Z30, Z10 and Z3. They may receive minor updates when to get some features but won't receive the core 10.4 os. This may be due to new hardware and going 64-bit. The old devices will probably be sold to developing countries for around the same price as the Z3 is currently.

    [Rumor] BlackBerry OS 10.4 Spells EOL-img_20140613_105404.png

    Posted via my BeastBerry Z30
    06-13-14 12:56 PM
  2. rajbir01's Avatar
    BlackBerry 10.4 will spell EOL (end of life) for the Q10, Q5, Z30, Z10 and Z3. They may receive minor updates when to get some features but won't receive the core 10.4 os. This may be due to new hardware and going 64-bit. The old devices will probably be sold to developing countries for around the same price as the Z3 is currently.

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    Posted via my BeastBerry Z30
    I can't wait that long for the MANITOBA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    06-13-14 01:01 PM
  3. Amirberry's Avatar
    plz stop spreading rumors, thanks
    06-13-14 01:06 PM
  4. Blackberry_Boss's Avatar
    plz stop spreading rumors, thanks
    It's a rumor for now but I suspect this is true. The company is going to want you to upgrade your phone from that dual core phone to something more advanced. It's just common sense.

    Posted via my BeastBerry Z30
    sparkaction and nokia4life like this.
    06-13-14 01:10 PM
  5. sentimentGX4's Avatar
    I'm not sure I believe this
    Source in BB told me that 10.3 is the LAST OS known as BB10
    OS will be rebranded to another name, but all QNX devices will be supported.
    Playbook? Cars? Space shuttles? The bulk of QNX devices in the world aren't even BB10. That statement from your friend makes absolutely no sense.

    It makes little sense unless they are making a complete change to the hardware and the OS in terms of x64 and 4/8 core OS
    Recall that BB10 is already the only major consumer OS requiring 2 GB RAM and BB10 has not had a major update since its launch.

    A major release could easily push the RAM requirement to 3 GB+ and obsolete all old devices.
    06-13-14 01:12 PM
  6. playbookster's Avatar
    When is 10.4 supposed to release? We still have 10.2.2 10.3 10.3.1 to get to first.
    06-13-14 01:12 PM
  7. Carterbits's Avatar
    With all the layoffs it does make (fiscal) sense to stop supporting older devices once they have newer revisions in the market.

    You need manpower to regression test new releases and every device you add makes the test matrix that much larger.

    If they reduce the amount of testing (heaven forbid) that they do and continue to support older devices we'll have even more bugs like the SMS history deletion on upgrade bug and the unable to sync with Link to exFAT sd cards bug we now have, etc.

    That being said, we'll have BB10 devices in our house for 3-4 years and I will be sad when they stop getting updates...

    Download Noted, my 5-star rated, native BB10 notepad app.
    Last edited by Carterbits; 06-13-14 at 02:43 PM.
    06-13-14 01:21 PM
  8. Munx's Avatar
    I really hope BlackBerry changes their fiscal year to line up with the calendar year.

    Q3 2015 either means in a few months (fiscal), or more than a year away (calendar).

    Posted via CB10
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    06-13-14 01:26 PM
  9. Aljean Thein's Avatar
    Let's be honest, this was gonna happen eventually...

    Posted via CB10
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    06-13-14 01:28 PM
  10. Blackberry_Boss's Avatar
    This is bound to happen, you can't get mad. It takes man power to test updated software on outdated hardware. 10.3 isn't even out yet so people don't really have to worry but I suspect they will stop support for older devices in 2016. Support for 4-16 cores is on the rise and support for higher ram is needed.

    Posted via my BeastBerry Z30
    06-13-14 01:37 PM
  11. Blackberry_Boss's Avatar
    When is 10.4 supposed to release? We still have 10.2.2 10.3 10.3.1 to get to first.
    There is no 10.2.2 lol. Keep up man you falling behind. Everything that people think was going to be in 10.2.2 will be added features to 10.3/10.3.1.

    Posted via my BeastBerry Z30
    06-13-14 01:41 PM
  12. bkbkjbb's Avatar
    10.3 is still months away and we're having discussions about 10.4? Lol wow!

    If it is EOL for the Z10 when 10.4 drops, then don't feel bad, and don't complain, its already been more supported than android devices currently get.

    Posted via CB10
    06-13-14 01:41 PM
  13. Peevish's Avatar
    There is no 10.2.2 lol. Keep up man you falling behind. Everything that people think was going to be in 10.2.2 will be added features to 10.3/10.3.1.

    Posted via my BeastBerry Z30
    10.2.2 us coming it is a security update for the Germans.

    Posted via CB10
    06-13-14 01:42 PM
  14. masterscarhead1's Avatar
    Playbook? Cars? Space shuttles? The bulk of QNX devices in the world aren't even BB10. That statement from your friend makes absolutely no sense.

    Recall that BB10 is already the only major consumer OS requiring 2 GB RAM and BB10 has not had a major update since its launch.

    A major release could easily push the RAM requirement to 3 GB+ and obsolete all old devices.
    Any change to the OS will more than likely push up the RAM usage. I can't deny that. If they are doing this, it wouldn't be this fast like I stated in my post. The roadmap they released pointed to around 2016 at earliest
    As for all the other devices on QNX, well, it's already called QNX...... Supposedly they are rebranding BB10 to QNX10 or something along those lines. I reached out to my source for confirmation. We'll see if I hear back about this.
    diegonei and LuvULongTime like this.
    06-13-14 01:48 PM
  15. kbz1960's Avatar
    LMAO No. The iPhone 4 will not get ios 8. 7.1 was the last update for the iPhone 4. It won't even get a couple features. BlackBerry on the other hand will still hand you a couple features but you won't get the core os.

    Posted via my BeastBerry Z30
    That first 3 generations of iPhones are no longer supported. Also many people who are on the fringe of support claim their devices slow down after updates. It's also an indicator of all the level of sophistication of iOS when it runs on 4 year old hardware which weren't top of the line when new.

    Posted via CB10
    I said almost. When has a bb ever been supported beyond 2 years with new updates? I know things go EOL all the time but it means something different with most other companies and if it doesn't then you can find something else to put on it. EOL with BBRY means you got what you got and can't do anything different with it.
    Witmen likes this.
    06-13-14 01:49 PM
  16. BoldPreza's Avatar
    I won't even have this phone then. No biggie to me. Hopefully I will be rocking a new BlackBerry 10.4 phablet in Q3 2015!

    Posted via CB10
    thatplaybookguy and diegonei like this.
    06-13-14 01:52 PM
  17. SirJes's Avatar
    Not quite. The 3 and 3GS are no longer supported. The 4 is losing support upon the launch of OS 8.
    Not only that, but the 4s doesn't even run ios7 good

    Posted via CB10
    06-13-14 01:54 PM
  18. grover5's Avatar
    I said almost. When has a bb ever been supported beyond 2 years with new updates? I know things go EOL all the time but it means something different with most other companies and if it doesn't then you can find something else to put on it. EOL with BBRY means you got what you got and can't do anything different with it.
    Older android phones don't get updated beyond 2 years usually. Some not even beyond one year. It's not unusual really.
    06-13-14 01:58 PM
  19. eddy_berry's Avatar
    I don't see this as entirely true or it is being talked about incorrectly. EOL is not the right phrase. It is bound to happen, yes, but only if they are switching to a 64-bit architecture. That doesn't mean that 32 bit devices will be scrapped or EOL, but rather the OS will only take on minor UI changes to act and look similarly to the next generation 64-bit devices and of course security updates. It would be smart to continue making 32-bit devices for emerging markets. But I do see that the newer 64-bit devices will be the main focus in the future and will include updates for advanced hardware interaction. That part is inevitable and we have to embrace it. Technology moves forward at a blistering pace. Don't think of it like the PlayBook fiasco. That was not meant to happen and they let it happen, but a tablet was never BlackBerry's focus. Smartphones are BlackBerry's focus so they won't give it up so easily. One thing is for sure, they will EOL the BBOS in a few years time at the latest. Anybody clinging to that isn't going to be happy unless the Classic and its predecessors are everything it's cracked up to be. The next few years will be interesting indeed.
    06-13-14 01:58 PM
  20. kye2000's Avatar
    This made a little part of me die I hoped for longer support. I planned keeping it till 2016 but I can't stand using an outdated phone

    Posted via my Z30 running 10.3.0.442
    06-13-14 02:17 PM
  21. WanShark69's Avatar
    This made a little part of me die I hoped for longer support. I planned keeping it till 2016 but I can't stand using an outdated phone

    Posted via my Z30 running 10.3.0.442
    I'm quite sure your Z30 will see till 2016. :-D

    Encrypted on my Z10
    06-13-14 02:20 PM
  22. Glenn Biddle's Avatar
    Big deal I've now had my Z10 for about a year and a half it is already the longest lasting phone I've done had. If they stop supporting it it doesn't mean that it will stop working, it just means that it will stop getting better. And I'm sure I will have moved on to another phone by then anyway.

    Posted via CB10
    06-13-14 02:27 PM
  23. PygmySurfer's Avatar
    Recall that BB10 is already the only major consumer OS requiring 2 GB RAM and BB10 has not had a major update since its launch.
    What OS is installed on the Z3, then? And really, 10.1, 10.2, and 10.2.1 weren't major updates? What exactly constitutes a major update, then?
    06-13-14 03:35 PM
  24. kbz1960's Avatar
    Not quite. The 3 and 3GS are no longer supported. The 4 is losing support upon the launch of OS 8.
    The 4 released in 2011, it's 2014 and just now? That's 3 years. I wouldn't get an iPhone anyway. 3 years is pretty good. With an Android you can use XDA ROM's for a lot. WP8, MS seems to do what BB does. With a BB when things stop, they stop. You can do nothing more with it as far as updating it or putting something different on it.

    Yes by the time 10.4 comes, knowing BBRY, I'll be using a different phone anyway but it would be nice to be able to improve the old one to play with or give it to a family member.

    Now,IF, my phone doesn't still have nagging bugs at that time that's another story. I'm not sure it will.

    Edit: Cause I had years wrong.
    Last edited by kbz1960; 06-13-14 at 03:50 PM.
    06-13-14 03:38 PM
  25. Thunderbuck's Avatar
    I'm skeptical on this. No device on the slate is so advanced that there should be any major platform incompatibility.
    Bluenoser63 likes this.
    06-13-14 03:40 PM
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