1. Jerale Hoard's Avatar
    It seems the NSA wasn't able to hack Merkel's BlackBerry. So if her BlackBerry wasn't possibly hacked, then what phone was hacked?

    http://NSA Probably Couldn?t Crack M...illance-131008

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    11-24-13 08:46 PM
  2. playbookster's Avatar
    It seems the NSA wasn't able to hack Merkel's BlackBerry. So if her BlackBerry wasn't possibly hacked, then what phone was hacked?

    http://NSA Probably Couldn?t Crack M...illance-131008

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    Her nokia was hacked
    11-24-13 08:57 PM
  3. FSeverino's Avatar
    Wow, way to quote erroneously lol


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    11-24-13 09:46 PM
  4. jafrul's Avatar
    Woah.. what am I reading?


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    11-24-13 09:51 PM
  5. Roo Zilla's Avatar
    They listened in on her phone calls, for like the past 11 years. Both GSM and CDMA encryption were cracked years ago, it wouldn't have matter what phone Merkel used as long as she was was using a wireless phone. The same applies today, even for BlackBerry. BlackBerry's phone conversations aren't any more secure than a dumbphone on the same wireless network. It's suspected the NSA has the capability to decrypt GSM and CDMA and their successors in real time.
    11-25-13 02:38 AM
  6. Roo Zilla's Avatar
    Her nokia was hacked
    Her phone wasn't "hacked." Nothing was done to it. They basically decrypted her wireless conversations.
    11-25-13 02:39 AM
  7. szlevi's Avatar
    They listened in on her phone calls, for like the past 11 years. Both GSM and CDMA encryption were cracked years ago, it wouldn't have matter what phone Merkel used as long as she was was using a wireless phone. The same applies today, even for BlackBerry. BlackBerry's phone conversations aren't any more secure than a dumbphone on the same wireless network. It's suspected the NSA has the capability to decrypt GSM and CDMA and their successors in real time.
    Well, considering both Ericsson and Nokia had real-time decryptors years ago... better yet Schneider wrote this few years ago: https://www.schneier.com/blog/archiv...pping_o_5.html

    And we thought we were very HC while listening to the previous analog (NMT450) mobile phone discussion in the university HAM club circa 1995... :
    11-25-13 07:56 PM
  8. TheScionicMan's Avatar
    They don't need to access the phones when they are already tapped into the network.
    11-25-13 07:59 PM
  9. allisos's Avatar
    Actually, my bbm video/voices calls wouldn't be subject to that.

    They listened in on her phone calls, for like the past 11 years. Both GSM and CDMA encryption were cracked years ago, it wouldn't have matter what phone Merkel used as long as she was was using a wireless phone. The same applies today, even for BlackBerry. BlackBerry's phone conversations aren't any more secure than a dumbphone on the same wireless network. It's suspected the NSA has the capability to decrypt GSM and CDMA and their successors in real time.
    dusdal likes this.
    11-25-13 08:04 PM
  10. jegs2's Avatar
    Yes, I'm sure that a national-level Intelligence organization that deals in Top Secret information and procedures would like folks to believe they were incapable of cracking certain types of cell phones.
    11-26-13 01:02 AM
  11. Roo Zilla's Avatar
    Actually, my bbm video/voices calls wouldn't be subject to that.
    Go ahead and believe that if you want. Unless both you and the recipent are on BES, it's no more secure than pretty much anything else.

    Don't forget, it's been well publicized that India has the keys to BBM..... what makes you believe the N friggin SA doesn't have the same. De Nile isn't just a river in Egypt.
    Last edited by Roo Zilla; 11-27-13 at 12:53 AM.
    11-27-13 12:35 AM
  12. greggebhardt's Avatar
    I bet the NSA has already spooked her new Blackberry.
    11-27-13 06:24 AM
  13. Slash82's Avatar
    This is kinda funny, because there is a lot of misunderstanding in that case!
    The German goverment has 2 phones for their choice:

    1.) The Blackberry OS10 with a SecuSmart encryption SD-card in it.
    2.) An Android based encryption smartphone.

    First choice (in terms of security) is the Blackberry OS10 device, which has the most secure solution.
    She could switch between "normal use" and "secure use", which also includes secure talking.
    Frau Merkel got her Z10 back in early 2013, but she refused to use it, because it`s "too complicated" to handle for her.
    So she continued using her 6 year old Nokia phone and sent SMS text messages, those were really easy to filter out.
    She also showed others in the goverment "how to send an SMS", because she loves to text - which is really funny in 2013.

    After finding out the she got "hacked", the press just shows her with the Z10 in her hand which nothing has to do how she got hacked.
    I think press people loved her frown on that one.
    But all others think she used a Z10.
    Not that long ago there was a statement in the bavarian news that she still refuses to use her Blackberry, it's still to complicated to use for her!
    11-27-13 07:10 AM
  14. kbz1960's Avatar
    This is kinda funny, because there is a lot of misunderstanding in that case!
    The German goverment has 2 phones for their choice:

    1.) The Blackberry OS10 with a SecuSmart encryption SD-card in it.
    2.) An Android based encryption smartphone.

    First choice (in terms of security) is the Blackberry OS10 device, which has the most secure solution.
    She could switch between "normal use" and "secure use", which also includes secure talking.
    Frau Merkel got her Z10 back in early 2013, but she refused to use it, because it`s "too complicated" to handle for her.
    So she continued using her 6 year old Nokia phone and sent SMS text messages, those were really easy to filter out.
    She also showed others in the goverment "how to send an SMS", because she loves to text - which is really funny in 2013.

    After finding out the she got "hacked", the press just shows her with the Z10 in her hand which nothing has to do how she got hacked.
    I think press people loved her frown on that one.
    But all others think she used a Z10.
    Not that long ago there was a statement in the bavarian news that she still refuses to use her Blackberry, it's still to complicated to use for her!
    I read the frown was photoshopped and she can't be very bright if bb10 is too difficult for her after 15 minutes.
    11-27-13 08:10 AM
  15. franky62's Avatar
    Go ahead and believe that if you want. Unless both you and the recipent are on BES, it's no more secure than pretty much anything else.

    Don't forget, it's been well publicized that India has the keys to BBM..... what makes you believe the N friggin SA doesn't have the same. De Nile isn't just a river in Egypt.
    The Indian goverment only has access to info going through blackberry servers in India.
    11-27-13 05:42 PM
  16. Roo Zilla's Avatar
    The Indian goverment only has access to info going through blackberry servers in India.
    So you think the NSA can't do better? Part of Snowden's released documents included an email from a Mexican government agency sent via BES. It seems the NSA cracked BIS around 2009, and apparently, now BES too.

    NSA able to intercept BlackBerry e-mails: report - The Globe and Mail
    11-27-13 10:47 PM
  17. DannyAves's Avatar
    So you think the NSA can't do better? Part of Snowden's released documents included an email from a Mexican government agency sent via BES. It seems the NSA cracked BIS around 2009, and apparently, now BES too.

    NSA able to intercept BlackBerry e-mails: report - The Globe and Mail
    Just saw this:

    German government says theoretically, it would take 149 billion years to crack.
    Snowden Is BlackBerry Ltd (BBRY)'s Biggest Ally
    11-29-13 04:08 PM

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